Phil Lilley

This is what I got back from Invision - There is nothing in the error logs that shows any emails failing from IPB's side. With the users who are having issues with this, have they checked their junk mail filter? And did it suddenly stop working, or has it not worked for them from the start? I know Danoinark has had problems since the beginning with his notification. Let me know so I can answer.

Steve and I have come to an understanding I'm glad to say. All is well.

This is an open letter to the members and nonmembers of this forum- MSR Webmaster Steve posted a series of topics and posts today with links to his site and to other informative sites, 13 in fact. As I read each of the linked pages, including another forum, I decided to act in haste instead of really considering the consequences. I failed to contact Steve to discuss the post and deleted the posts. I was wrong. I ask forgiveness of Steve and the readers of the forum. I feel I've betrayed your trust as management of the forum. I was wrong in not talking to Steve before I acted. Steve is alittle ticked and he has a right to be. I don't intend this to be a thread to discuss if and who and whatever... it's just a statement from me. Thanks- Phil

It would be difficult to add anything but fishing here since it's "ozarkanglers"... Jim does own "ozarkhunters.com" and we've considered putting a forum there but that will have to be down the road a bit. I have my hands full with this forum. But thanks for asking.

Stimulator Recipe: Hook: TMC 200R / or 2303 Sz 4-10 Thread: UTC 70 Fl. Orange Tail: light elk hair Body: Fl. Orange Ice Dub (dubbing) Lower Body: Grizzly Hackle Wing: light elk hair w/ Krystal Flash Thorax: Char. Ice Dub (dubbing) Upper Body: grizzly Tying Instructions: Start the thread and wind to the bend. Tie in about half a pencil length of elk hair. Make sure you stack it in a hair stacker before tying it in. One thing I want to share with you is, if you are tying this step without cutting your hair to size and then tying it in then you are adding an extra step for yourself. What I mean is when you tie that hair in do you see a lot of excess hair that you have to cut after words in the front. If so try to cut it to where only a little of the tips are showing when you go to tie it in. It will save you time and trouble. Look at how much I have in my thumb and forefinger when I go to tie it in. Then when you go to tie in the excess in front there is not too much to tie. This will help the thread build up that would happen if you had to tie in a lot of excess hair with thread wraps. You have to keep small back there so you have a nice tapered look going up the fly. If you notice on stimulator patterns the back where the dubbing starts it goes from small to big with the dubbing. If you have a lot of thread wraps in the back you will not accomplish that look. Once you have tied down the elk hair you are ready to tie in the Grizzly hackle. You are going to tie the feather in at the tip. It also will be tied in concave. The shinny side will be facing up. Now you’re going to dud the fly up just past the middle of the shank. Always pay attention to proportions. That is what I see wrong with most patterns that are newly tied. Always look at pictures when learning new flies. It will definitely help you in the long run. Wrap the feather up to where the dubbing stops. Depending on how you want you fly to sit in the water will determine how many wraps you tie up. I like to wrap about five to six turns. Tie in about eight strands of krystal flash. Then measure the flash to the end of the elk hair and cut to length. Now your ready to tie in the next section of elk hair. Measure the next clump to the same size as the krystal flash. Repeat the same step as I illustrated in picture two. Tie in the next grizzly hackle, but this time you are going to tie in the feather with the fat side instead of the tip side. You want the hackle to tapered to be smaller at the eye. Now dub the fly up to the eye. You want the dubbing to be dubbed going from big to small. You will not need a bunch so try to grab a small amount of dubbing when putting on the thread. If you are having trouble keeping the dubbing on the thread you are probably dubbing to big of a clump in one area. Try to space it out so when you are dubbing the ball it is small enough to grab the thread when you spin it. Also only go one direction when dubbing on the thread. Wrap the hackle about three to four turns and whip finish the fly and that’s it. Just make sure you still have enough dubbing showing thru the wraps. Stimulator

Our neighbors at Ozark Trout Resort has a 2 bedroom, 3 beds open this weekend. 417-335-4619 and talk to Wanda.

I would fish the wind blown bank- where the waves are hitting. Wind usually pushes bait fish and groups them up.

The otter issue should be another topic possibly.

I gotta hand out the kuddos to you guys... you've done a great job on this topic without a single desparaging word against anyone (well almost). I commend you- seriously. Thanks guys.

OK... This guy can hold his own on the topic of stripers and big cats. His only drawback he's an OU fan.

You have my curiosity up... who are you!?

I've been told 'there isn't a fly under the sun that hasn't already been invented'. I'm not 100% sold on that thought but it may be close. Especially with the development of new materials, the possibilities are endless. Speaking of materials, I visited with a seasoned angler once- he told me back in the ??'s (50's- maybe 60's), they found what was called a doll fly in a shop near Grand Lake. They used and caught crappie on them like there was nothing else better. After the last jig fell apart, they used the filters on their cigarettes in substitute for the feathers and it worked. Never will forget that story.

When the Mark Twain forum gets heated up, we'll give you a call.

Pics 2, 4 & 5 are 2 or 3 pics merged together using photoshop cs.

I have pics of Big Hill when they were working on the lake-bottom before filling it. Our boy scout trout used to hike and camp out there in the mid 70's. There's a place on the ne side of the lake- a small lake or big pond- that we used to call Bath Lake. Big Hill actually runs up again the dam of the small lake I understand. Anyhow- I almost bought that place way back when- had dreams of creating a fishing/hunting lodge. Wish I had bought it now cause with Big Hill the property I'm sure is worth alot more today.

- Night fishing? are there fly fishing night opportunities at or around the resort, either on the dock or wadable? Not looking to 'slay' them but want a fighting chance. Why do people start at midnight vs. 9 or 10 at night? Not wanting to stay up too late and thought about throwing a line in upon arrival. Not much around the resort for night fly fishing... have to go to the dam for that. We can start fishing at any time- the only reason for starting that late - you'll have to ask them. Maybe they have to watch Jay Leno or something first. - Boating? I will be fly fishing and my buddy spin (working on conversion). Looks like most fly fishing takes place in wadable areas below the dam. Is this personal preferance, resource (boat) limitations, or just significantly better than other parts of the lake. What is the prime boatable area up and down from the resort? I am sure I can get these answered in the morning at the shop but trying to get framed in prior to arriving, that I am itching to get out of the office and on the road:) You can fly fish anyplace on the lake from a boat but it is better conditions upstream from, say, short creek and fall creek. What I mean by conditions is shallower water basically. Downstream again you can catch trout on a fly rod but you'll be fishing a jig under a float or a zebra midge-same. Thanks for your help and all the great info on the site.

I'm not an crappie expert so anyone correct me... I use a swimming bait and work the banks and trees at different depths and structure till I find a pattern. It's as simple as that.

Take my word for it... it wouldn't last long. I've had some experience with unapproved signs. But you might ask MDC - Chris Vitello - about a design that they would approve... it might fly.

Feature is on Michael Kyle of Backcountry Outfitters. Outdoor Section

The one big thing that's changed this week... it's warmer! That about all. Fishing has been consistant for a couple of weeks now. So has generation- very little to none at all. I don't look for any generation either, even with the snow we've had. It might have equated to 1.5 inches of rain but most soaked into the ground and not in the lakes. Table Rock is still 12 ft below power pool so the Corp will conserve all they can. We had a busy weekend and fishing was good for those who braved the cold, snow and wind. The forecast - again very little if any generation. Weather is supposed to be mild with slight winds. If you're fishing above Fall Creek from a boat, bring your fly rod and use #14 grey or brown scuds under an indicator 3-5 feet deep on the channel drop or on the bluff bank. If trout are midging the surface, tie on a zebra and fish it 12 inches under an indicator and target feeding fish. Spin - throw a jig or throw a jig-n-float. Jig colors- sculpin, olive, brown, black, gray or ginger. I like a black/brown combo right now. Below the dam, drop in size scuds to #16 or #18 and take some different colors. San Juan worm with the slight runoff we are having. And midge hatches have been fairly thick so several midge patterns are working. Run a crackleback across the surface and see what happens. Use a stimulator as an indicator and catch 1 in 7 on a dry fly- fun! Below Fall Creek, air injected night crawlers #1. Salmon eggs did well this weekend- sugar cured. And then your power baits... white, yellow and pink. Spin-0-lures are working real well- white with the red dots. And silver or gold cleos - very good on freshly stocked rainbows.

There's already a program in place and active- volunteers that talk to people about MDC code and rules on the water. I'll have to dig for the details. But I haven't much from the program or people actually doing the duty. Not down here anyway.

Right now about 45-47. It will drop till we get into July-August.

None that I know of. We have one 3/4 Team Lazy Valley has one 3/11 but you have to be a guest to fish it... I'm told.

Rolan Duffield, photo-bug, has graciously volunteered to lead the rod building forum. Thanks Rolan!

White- my guess is the decals haven't been put on- they are "new".