Phil Lilley

http://www.sbj.net/article.asp?aID=78563 Congrats to Stan and Carolyn for another very nice award.

I'm tired of putting fires out on the forum. This is about fishing. Either get along or find another forum. That's goes for everyone.

Will say one more thing and that's all. This quote... there's alot of people who think this statement is true for all of Taneycomo.

I know who healing waters is... I've stopped this before- posters hiding behind a screen name and disking people over fishing techniques. Unfounded accusations and hear say won't be tolerated here. This topic is closed and so is the subject on this forum.

There's been postings on this for some time... but haven't seen anything in a while. Brian Sloss was up on this- may be he can shed some light.

Penatx Optio WPI it is waterproof That's the one I have. It's nice. Get one on ebay.

There's not much. Cooper Creek only has RV -I think!- You might check with them. Otherwise- State Park is the only place I know of.

Sorry- didn't see you edited your first post. My phone doesn't ring at 3 am........

Are you awake??? Details??? Report??? Yes you need a new camera! ~~~Shelling out a hard time~~~

Need to take pictures at night... WITH A FLASH!

Got out late this am for a couple of hours. Boated up to Lookout about 9 am and worked down to the narrows by noon. Tried stimulators and humpies first along the bluff bank- no takes. Dave fished a 1/16th oz sculpin jig on the bottom and picked up a couple. We both switched to a fly rod, #16 gray thin skin scud under a palsa 6 feet deep and fished the bluff bank and did fair. We both hooked several rainbows from 12 to 16 inches but it was alittle slow. I switched to a zebra 3 feet deep and picked up a couple. Went back to the scud cause Dave was kicking my butt. I pinched a tiny split shot 6 inches above the scud, 6x tippet and made sure the scud was on the bottom. We'd work the scud, moving it about every 10 seconds, making the scud hop off the bottom to attract attention. It worked prett well. Yes the scud was weighed a bit but the split kept it on the bottom. We did the best at the narrows where it's mainly gravel bottom. Did see a couple of nice browns but no takers. Switched back to zebras as the sun covered the whole area. Red with a gold bead fish 4 feet deep and caught a couple before heading in.

I've heard they are up in Bull Creek- up by the island and upstream of it. No other details but this word isn't very old. Big ones.

You are welcome to talk business here. We've had people ask about housing here in Branson as well as other places. This is a fishing forum but it's also about community and helping people. Yes there is a fine line between abusing the forum for self benefit but most people can see thru self promotion posting and reply accordingly. See you on the board.

Alot of short crappie? That's what I usually get when I fish there. Sounds like fun!

All the fish we caught fought very hard. The brown didn't show itself for 2 minutes. Was using 3 lb tectan and it was all I wanted with the brown.

Got out for an hour and 45 minutes... exact time cause our wives wanted us to go somewhere tonight... but they're not here so I get to write this report and post pics. Boated to Lookout at 5:30- Dave and I. Water had been running a bit but was dropping out. Threw sculpin 1/8th oz jigs and caught a bunch of rainbows. Had to get it right on the bottom cause they wouldn't come up at all to get them. Fished the bluff bank all the way to the narrows which took 1-45 minutes. Great evening. Almost all rainbows were fat and over 15 inches. All pics were of rainbows 15-16 and one brown on the 4th cast after "my last cast" at the end of the evening. Brown was very stocky but only about 18 inches. Fought real hard. We did switch to 3/32 and then 1/16th oz jigs as the water got slower and slower. But again, had to keep them on the bottom. Lost a few jigs.

Just talked to Mr. Babler. He's still on Kodiak fishing away like a mad man. Says they're tired of catching salmon- fresh pinks and silvers all over the place. They've had 2 days of halibut fishing and boxed up over 150 pounds of fish a piece for shipment home. He didn't mention any rivers but sounds like they're all full of fish. Lots of a lots of people though. Didn't say is was as crowded as the Kenia or Russian but you always see people where you go. Fish are hitting anything pink. He said he took a bunch of pink swimming minnows and couldn't make a cast without something attacking it. Pink jigs, beads and a pink fly he has with black dumbell eyes that also are killers. They're looking for something besides salmon now... want to find some dollies. They're looking today. Flying to King Salmon on Wednesday. I'll be up there Sunday evening.

I'd fish in Bull Creek and downstream. I always have done well using plastic worms. There's been some crappie caught up in Bull from the island upstream on small jigs and small plastic lures, I've heard. Topwater for bass should be pretty good too.

Got out this evening with a friend from KC. Boated just past Fall Creek about 7 pm and fished the gravel point across from the boat ramp. Water was dropping off one unit and trout midging in the seam and in the backwater. We threw zebra midge, black #18 under a palsa 12 inches and caught fish on every cast for about 30 minutes. Then they got picky. Dave kept fishing the midge and I switched to a #18 red soft hackle. He caught a half dz more and I had only one but it was fun enticing them with the soft hackle- they'd chase and chase it but never quite get it in the mouth- or I was just off on my set. No fog!! Very pleasant evening!!

Took a friend and his dad out this am. Started at 7 am and boated almost to lookout. Used a combination of micro jigs (orange head/olive) under a float 4-5 feet deep and fished the channel. Caught a few. Switched to #16 black zebra under a float 3 feet and caught a few more. They missed quite a few fish. Ended up with may be 10 to hand. Boated down to Cooper and fished brown 1/50th oz jig with orange head under a float 5 feet and caught 6-7 more rainbows. Some rainbow midging upstream early and increasing in activity till 10 am. At Cooper, there were a few midging but not many.

State: Bennett Spring still has plenty of trout Reports that flooding swept all trout away were exaggerated, conservation official says. Mike Penprase News-Leader There are plenty of trout at Bennett Spring State Park for holiday anglers despite a fish kill that occurred during recent heavy rains, Missouri Department of Conservation representatives said. Contrary to angler-generated stories on the Internet, the trout-fishing park wasn't knocked out by the deluge that hit the region nearly two weeks ago, said trout hatchery manager Mike Mitchell. Mitchell estimates the trout park lost less than 10 percent of its trout, which, counting fish ranging in size from tiny fry to big lunkers, number between 600,000 and 700,000. Asked about accounts claiming flooding washed the trout park clean of fish, "It's kind of exaggerated." "Nothing like those rumors actually occurred." Anglers will find the trout park has enough fish for the end-of-summer Labor Day holiday, when trout anglers end a hot-weather lull at the park, Mitchell said. It sits on the Laclede-Dallas county line. It wasn't the flooding caused by heavy rains south of the trout park — Mitchell said he's heard anywhere from 6 to 11 inches fell in the area — that killed fish. The real culprit was high temperatures from water that flowed across soil baked by a series of 100-degree days, he said. "What happened was, the runoff, when it hit the spring, it did not cool appreciably," he said. "It hit the hatchery and was 75 degrees for at least an hour." The normal water temperature in Bennett Spring and the nearby hatchery is 56 degrees, and some trout couldn't tolerate the temperature change, Mitchell said. "This hot water, plus heavy silt loads, did not allow a high oxygen level for the fish to breath," Mitchell said. "We did have some mortality; we did lose some fish." Such a loss is unusual, Mitchell said. "Most of the time, there are no huge hits," he said. "The numbers we lost would be comparable to a large parasitic infestation that cannot be brought under control quickly." The warm, murky water hit quickly, so there wasn't time to do much to protect the trout, Mitchell said. "When you deal with a cold-water species like trout, you have something in the neighborhood of 20 to 30 minutes to react before there is mortality," he said. Because the most heavily-affected fish were 11Ï-inch stockers scheduled in September and October, the Department of Conservation is planning to bring in replacement fish from Shepherd of the Hills Hatchery at Branson, Mitchell said. Being able to do that demonstrates how flexible Missouri's trout program is, Conservation fisheries field operations chief Chris Vitello said. "We really try to operate the cold-water system as a system, and we were able to buffer the impact by getting fish from elsewhere," he said. "I think the typical angler, this year and next year that goes to Bennett, I don't think they're going to notice any difference, either in number or size of fish." Rumors that the trout park won't have fish for months are unfounded, Mitchell said. "That's not going to be the case at all," Mitchell said. "We will go on business as usual until the end of October."

Bad deal... watching the game last night and saw the play where Juan was hit. Second time he's been hit and same eye. That might be it for him and baseball.

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My father in law gave me a disk full of images for my birthday today... wanted to share. There's a bunch more, mostly of town, people, shops and buildings but these are of the river. http://ozarkanglers.com/taneycomo/old_pics/pics2.html

You've just describe a bunch of anglers who fish Taney... although you, and I have to admit- myself- don't really care for fishing the outlets, I don't think anyone should think less of them. Not saying Jim is at all... but it's easy to fall into that mindset. I'm not coming to defend Leonard- he can stand all by himself. And like I said- IF ANYONE, guide or not, does anything on Taney that's questionable- there's too many people (witnesses) who fish up there not to be noticed AND alot of those people read and post on this forum. BUT POSTERS WHO PICK--- cast on if you have a perfect record. Note: I don't cast much cause I've been forgiven of very much. Jim- hope you don't take my post in a negative light to your post. You're not the first person to point out how Leonard fishes. I will say, it's not the only way he fishes, though. At some point, we need to leave Mr. Keeney alone on this subject. Not sure if any guide has been raked over the coals like Leonard has here. There are pro and there will be con- always will.