TableRockBoater

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Yes, Al Gore's Internet says they are called single ear hose clamps, and I could not get that "tail" to lift on them.

Mine do. But, what was referred to is removing the lines from those quick connections . . . how to open those original factory clamps. I never did . . . I just cut the lines, then persuaded the ends off without removing the clamps.

New bulb, new fuel lines, and appropriate clamps, $40-ish. I'm going down to put it on, and go spizz Marge the Party Barge. - - - - - It works just fine.

I read that while googling, and it said worm clamps can work loose. I would like to know how to get the original clamps off.

I don't need much, and it's not as expensive as the aggravation or the tow bill. I google-studied clamps, mainly because fuel line clamps are strange, and found the regular worm clamps are not a good idea, but that's probably what I'll use if I can't figure out the clamps that are on it now.

I got our fuel line assembly off, and it is going to be a very simple process to replace the bad fuel lines with good ones.

I hate to say what I'm going to say because it will probably sound like I'm picking on you, but, we have lived on Table Rock Lake for more than 20 years, with our boats and other boats all around us. Thousands of boats sitting on lifts, in slips, in marinas, in dry docks, on trailers, and most boats sit a whole lot more than they get used. Most don't get used for several months every year, and some don't get used for much longer perios. Same in our very-boatey Florida area, most boats just sit, especially Snowbird boats. Your personal experience with ethanol goes against conventional wisdom, and Boat US has put a lot of research into it. Just say No to ethanol . . . unless you're a corn farmer.

I guess I'll be getting my new fuel line at O'Reilly's instead of a marine place, and I'll replace the bulb while I'm at it. There is the possibility that some of that gunky liner has made it past the fuel connector. Both here and in Florida, I have only used non-ethanol in our boats and small engines ever since it's been available. Our Florida gas stations were first to come around, and offer a non-ethanol pump, even at Murphy Gas. It's a heavy boating area, and they call it Recreational Gas. Prior to that, probably about 2013, I spent over $600 getting all the fuel-degraded parts replaced in our '98 Fisher deck boat. I had no idea what was causing performance problems then, and the mechanic kept a handful of small parts from the fuel system.

Here's something I assume y'all know about. I know what ethanol does to marine-grade parts, but I just learned about this one the hard way. I had this issue on a new-to-us boat, where the previous owners probably did not use non-ethanol fuel. When I took apart the gray fuel line, I saw it has exactly this problem, that liner is all gummy, and blocking fuel flow. Then I found this:

Except for this year, I always have goggle-eye on my brush piles off my dock this time of year. I have always had success with a pumpkin seed double tail grub, both here and on the Eleven Point River. My BIL lives on the Eleven Point, so he knows everything there is to know about it, but he couldn't believe how they kept hitting that grub.

Just because something's on the Internet doesn't mean it's true. It's just over 2 miles from 6 to 7, and more than 5 miles from 7 to 8, then a tad over 2 to 9. But, of course, just because that's on the Internet doesn't mean it's right.😷

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Since we're veering off course, how's that working out for Tesla (and the cars and people who are getting crashed into)?

We've sorta wandered off course . . . . from the difficulties dealing with the Corps . . . . their commissions and omissions in explaining their requirements, and doing so in a timely manner.

One opinion.

How's everything on Table Rock? This was yesterday, elsewhere. 😃

Oh yeah, I've done the easement thing a few times. Parking and access. Just a pedestrian easement on one that doesn't require parking. Also, we've had a repurposed resort dock for 14 years, and love it.

To transfer a used dock, get it moved to our approved site, and get the permit, took 9 months. That's a dock that's already constructed and already in compliance.

It's nothing less than interfering with the free marketplace. I've been dealing with the Corps for more than 20 years, and this is the first time I've seen them demand something that is not required, and cite sections of the new SMP that do not say what they say they are saying. There's enough that has to be done when you do everything that's required, so it's very frustrating when you do, and then add something that's not required. It is totally reasonable to require engineered plans for new construction or modifications, just like the SMP says, but totally unreasonable to require them just to move a dock, especially when that dock is already on the lake, they already have a file on it, they inspected it, and it complies. Actually, they inspect it twice, once before it moves, to see if it complies, and again after it moves, to see if it still complies. For a dock they already have a file on, that should be sufficient. Plus, once a dock gets moved, if it needs modification, like adding electric, or a swim deck, or whatever, engineered plans are required, which is understandable. To require them when nothing is being modified is just overkill.

Not just my problems . . . Because the new SMP allows new permits for smaller docks, people rebuilding their dock now have a viable market for their old dock. People doing that do everything they are supposed to do, everything called for in the written instructions. Then, after the purchaser of the old dock relocates it, and applies for a permit, the Corps tells them they have to have two sets of Stamped Engineered plans to get it permitted. The SMP requires that only if the dock is going to be modified, and for new construction. Also, the instruction sheet the Ranger gives on the site inspection says exactly that, stamped engineered plans are required only if there will be modifications to the dock. Of course, for liability and professional insurance reasons, an engineer is not going to put their name on something they did not build or that is not going to be built, so, the Corps is asking for something that cannot be done. Even if an engineer would do plans, that's $600-$1000 for something that the Corps should already have on file, since the docks involved are already on the lake and permitted. Not only is the Corps requiring something that is not required, they are not telling people upfront that it is required. You find out at the end, after all the time and money and effort has been put it. At that point, the person building a new dock, selling their old one, and the person buying the old one, are screwed.

Not the issue I had in mind, but, yes, everything docky is getting bigger. Longer and wider slips. Taller roofs to accommodate those towers every pleasure boats has to have nowadays. Perfectly good docks are being discarded for newer and bigger. Gone are the days of the 8 x 16 slips for little aluminum fishing boats, in wooden docks, with a room at one end to store the outboards during the Winter. Having said that, lift tanks are all about the same size/width, and it's the crossmembers that might be 9, 10, 11 or 12 feet wide. I know an older dock that has a 9-foot wide slip and an 7-foot wide slip, and it has a lift in the 9 foot one. I know a dock still on the lake that has a 12 x 16, then two 8 x 16s in the same opening, then two more like that, then a 12 x 16 at the other end.

How about the elevation of the catwalks at the dam? That has been mentioned during high water events.

Anyone else having problems with the Corps over docks?

Yeah, I have brushpiles there. For some reason the goggle-eye were not there this April and May. We get fished on the way in and way out, during tournaments by multiple boats. Not a complaint about that. I sleep outside, with our cats, in our screen room, and we get that 6:00 AM wake-up.