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for fly fishing it will be tough, if you egg and worm fish you should have a good time, the river is getting better all the time, but I think it will be high and muddy all weekend

Yes the river is about 3 foot above normal, right now. just about a 1 from where we were on wed.

http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u294/ti...rrent=zone1.jpg http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u294/ti...dryhollow-1.jpg http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u294/ti...=dryhollow1.jpg http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u294/ti...t=dryhollow.jpg These pics of Roaring River were taken about 11:00 a.m. yesterday april 10th. The water had been higher.

http://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/uv?07050152 This is the address from the USGS, thank you Phil for putting this on for all of us to look at, it really helps.

Looks like Roaring River is back up again, now I'm just taking the word of the hatchery on this and USSG chart that is on the OAF Site, it looks like it is up a and running hard again. I called the hatchery this morning and the guy there couldn't give me very good info, he just said he thought it was up, I'm not going to work this morning, mom is having some surgery at St. Johns, so I'll spend my day there. But I would guess from the amount of rain and the USSG chart, that we are near flooded again. If you go down and try to fish, use heavy spoons, and plastic worms and eggs. If you are fly fishing, big buggers, glo-balls, san juan worms, and flash back nymphs will be your best bet. Good luck.

What a weekend, the water turned clear on thursday morning(the spring started running clear) and it kept getting better all weekend. The water is still colored, but it is clear enough we are seeing some fish now and you can sight fish a jig in 3 ft of water, but I would still call it high and off colored. The flow is still above normal but the water is getting clearer everyday. This is the first weekend in about a month that some were catching fish on top regulary, cracklebacks, caddis, and adams seemed to be best, I caught a few on a humpy on friday, and one fellow came by said he had a good day on a stimulator. The hatches are good everyday, the tricos are comming off every morning now, and there are good caddis and blue wing olive hatches most everyday, but the high water is keeping the trout down right now, if you find the right piece of water you can find trout rising, and as the water continues to drop the dry fly fishing will only get better. I had one fellow come in on sunday, and he told me he had caught 15 in zone 2 on a black beetle, it is early but with the temps getting into the 60's and 70's everyday the ants and beetles should be out in force. Nymphs and buggers are still good choices in the faster water, copper johns, pheasant tail nymphs, flashback hare ears and prince nymphs were all doing well. I think the guys doing the best were fishing two flies, I talked to several that were fishing a pheasant tail or copper john as the lead fly and using a zebra midge or small egg pattern as there dropper. Egg patterns and san juan worms worked very well this weekend. Olive, black, tan and brown cone and bead head buggers were good choices all weekend, they woolybugger will catch fish about anytime you use it. Marabou jigs, and thread jigs fished under an inidcator did well for the fly rod fisherman, the spin rod guys did very well using woolybugger jigs, micro jigs, and glo-balls, in zone 2. In zone 1 the powerbait eggs and the powerbait worms are still catching the most fish, orange, white and hatch brown are the best colors for the eggs. White, cheese yellow, and orange have been the best colors in the worms. Small crankbait lures work well in zone 1, the rebel crawfish, and the rapala minnows in black/gold work well year round. One important thing, most people that come in that are having trouble catching trout right now all have the same problem, most of them are not putting enough weight on their lines, if you are not getting on the bottom once in awhile while fishing plastic lures, you probably don't have enough weight on. We are still using 1/8 oz bass sinkers and 1/16 and 1/8 oz slip sinkers to get the powerbait eggs to stay on the bottom. Roostertail spinners are still good in the morning, black, skunk, brown, and the white seem to still be working best, roostertails work during the day some when the water is up like it is right now, just fish them close to the bottom and reel them just fast enough to keep the blade spinning. In zone 3 powerbait nuggets in the hatch color and rainbow paste has been working well, corn, and marshmallows are working also, and if you have them minnows and nightcrawlers are working well. Good luck on the river this week.

Water is still in fine shape and getting better every day, the water is in nice shape, clearing quickly now and the level is dropping a bit everyday. The bottom is more visable eveyday, should be a good weekend.

Water was still good when I left this afternoon, not a lot of rain since, but I don't know how much rain we are going to get, the radar shows we could still get a lot before morning.

Crane was big high and brown this morning, it won't be anygood for a few days.

1 inch of rain last night, the river came up a bit, it is still more green than brown, but still has a strong flow. Went down this morning early. Fished a sink tip line and a big olive and black bugger, caught 3 none big but nicely colored. I have been hearing glo-balls and san juans from most of the guys fishing. Still fishing good you just got to take your time and fish heaiver flies or add weight to the ones you have. http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u294/ti...nt=P4010025.jpg http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u294/ti...nt=P4010024.jpg http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u294/ti...nt=P4010023.jpg This is the river this morning from around the lodge area. The spinning rod guys are using 1/8 oz bass sinkers, the ones with the wire eye, they are tying a leader to the eye of the sinker and fishing it off the bottom like you would a powerbait egg, they are using the unweighted egg flies, it seems to be working several of the regulars are using this method and aWater is back up a bit, not as bad, and the color is still good, more green than brown. Best fishing has been with the powerbait products, the flo. white and the flo. yellow eggs have both been good. Roostertail spinners and small crankbaits have all been good, the rebel crawfish and the spoons have been working well. Plastic worms in orange, white, flo. yellow and pink have all been working. If you are fly fishing, put more weight on than you would normally, the water is very fast and extra weight will get you down wherer the fish are holding. Trout will lay under the fast current and wait for food to come to them. Good flies when the water is up are, san juan worms(red, orange, and chartruse) woolybuggers, olive, black and brown are my favorite colors, but the odd ball colors can really be productive sometimes when the water is up and rolling. I have seen some good fish come out on purple, tan and even blue when the water is like it is right now. Copper john nymphs, flashback hares ears and pheasant tails are always good. I have seen some nice fish come out on conehead sculpins and muddlers the past few weeks. Glo-balls and bright colored thread jigs will work well right now. You can get by with 5X tippet most of the time right now and 6X is ok, but I wouldn't use 7X right now unless you are fishing a dry fly. With the spinning rod you are going to be ok with 4lb line for another couple of weeks. In zone 3 minnows and corn have been working well. Good luck on the river this weekre catching a lot of trout.

If you leave the park on F hwy, F hwy dead ends at 86 hwy, turn right on 86 go about 3/4 of a mile and you will turn to you left on Roaring River Villiage road, follow this road till it dead ends and the river will be right in front of you. The whtite bass are there, but they are scattered and only seem to be biting early or late, if you have a boat, canoe or other type of water craft, this area of Roaring river can be fished eaisly. It is tough to fish from the bank here, with a fly rod.

we used to eat mussels all the time 30 years ago, don't know if they are still safe to eat or not, but they were good 30 years ago. we used to cook them on a grill and eat them as soon as they opened up, tobasco sause and mustard is they way I liked them.

If we don't get a bunch more rain, pheasant tails, craclebacks, olive or black woolybuggers are good the water isn't perfect yet but will be getting better everyday if the rains don't get to bad. There has been dry fly activity everyday, caddis and B.W.O.'s have been good. I like to use san juans and glo-bugs when the water is like this, still need to use more weight than usual, but you got to get the flies down.

Water is clearing up quickly, you can see fish in the river now, and the water has dropped a bit the past few days, we have had about 1 1/2" of rain the past 2 days, more expected tonight, but so far the water is looking real good. Still hearing the white bass are being caught up in the Roaring river arm, mostly towards dark.

Sure looks like a creek chub to me, we call them lots of things, mostly bait for big fish Brown trout love em, eat em like snickers

Has the report changed since the 23rd's post? Thanks for the speedy reply No not really it is about the same as it was on the 23rd, it is not quite as high, but still off colored.

It would take over an inch and it would have to come real fast to make much difference. If it is a slow easy rain we could probably do 2" before there is much change to the river. A lot of it depends on where the rain falls, if the washburn area gets pounded then dry hollow comes to life, and it can flood the bottom end(zone 2 and 3) and the top end will remain unchanged, but if the rain comes above roaring river between cassville and the park, then the upper hollers flood and it can ruin the whole river for a few days.

Thanks for all the info, I'll find somewhere to fish, some of the maps show serveral streams, looks like we will be near Providence, I'll check out some of the other states.

It is about the same, still off colored and still high, it is fishable. use extra lead

Anybody out there ever fish Rhode Island or out near there? We are adopting a baby and are going to have to spend several weeks out that way, and I would like to fish, so any info would be appreciated. Looks like there are several streams, on the map, but can't find a lot of info on the old internet hiway. Thanks in advance for the help.

Flat creek is still high and off colored at least around jenkins, I drove thru there last night, was going to fish a bit, but it is still to high to fish in my hip boots, so I passed, but it is down a lot from last week, give it another week, it should be great floating and fishing most of the spring and into early summer. Great smallmouth on Flat creek.

Crane is still high, and it is nice to see, usually crane rises and falls very quickly, I guess with all the rain maybe the water table has risen a bit and it is taking longer for the water to recede, so crane is staying higher longer, this should help the trout, maybe the floods dug out some of the holes in the creek and created more places for the trout to hide, like they needed more. The creek is looking good, I'll probably fish it this thursday or next thursday depends on how fast it continues to drop, it would be tough wading right now, but in a few days it should be better, right now the water is clear and high, and it is looking great. If you fish crane creek now, use big tung headed nymphs, I use #10 nymphs at crane all the time, glo-balls and san juan worms are good there also, and I do great on woolybuggers. The dry fly fishing should be good in few weeks also, I catch a lot of trout at crane on small caddis, adams, and cracklebacks, but I have caught a lot of trout on #12 renegades, beetles, and on royal wulffs, those trout are just like the trout you fish for out west, if you don't scare them and the fly drifts over them in a well presented manner, they will usually take a crack at the pattern, they are not picky some days and will hit anything that drifts into their line of sight. In the summer I do well on hoppers, beetles, and stimulators, and I usually get away with 6X tippet, the trout on crane are not as line shy as the park fish(usually) I fish for trout on crane a lot like I fish for goggleye on the creeks, you need to sneak up on a hole and look for root wads and deep holes, these trout will lay right up in a root wad and they seem to like to rush out and grab an item and then rush right back in, I've seen them do it a hundred times, and the bigger fish will lay right in the fast water sometimes, but I see a lot of them laying right along the bank just inches from the edge, they are never far from cover, I enjoy these fish the most, they will take about any dry presented to them, and they hit like smallmouth most times, it is a joy when you can get a drift to one of these trout that close to the bank. When you fish crane prepare to lose a few flies, I use small jigs for the rootwad fish, just because if you fish the root wads correctly you are going to lose a fly now and again, if you arn't losing flies once in a while, your probably not fishing deep enough or close enough to the bank. So spring is here get out and fish.

The river will be in better shape in 5 days or so(by saturday) but it will still be high, and most likly still be off color. It can clear very quicly, and if it does, I'll post ASAP.

Water is still high, not so muddy anymore but still murky, it is clearing a bit everyday and should be pretty good in a couple more weeks. Fishing has been good even with the off colored water, it has been tough on the fly fishers, but not impossible, bead heads, san juan worms, thread jigs, micro jigs, glo-balls and brassies fished under and indicator have been catching a few fish, in the fast water, you need more weight and if you add more weight you will need a bigger float, sometimes it is better to take the float off and watch the end of your line. I talked to a few guys catching trout on zebra midges and small caddis flies, but only in a few areas were they able to fish small flies, you had to hunt the eddies and find slower places along the river to fish. You can still get away with 6X fluorocarbon tippet, and if you are fishing heaiver cone and bead head buggers and sculpins you can use the 5X or heaiver. I'm fishing most of my flies 3' or deeper and I'm fishing droppers most of the time, a zebra midge, san juan worm combo has been working pretty good, I caught one this evening up by the hatchery on a crackleback, so a few are still looking up, the water is a bit clearer on the upper end. Power eggs and power worms are still catching a lot of trout, the cheese yellow, orange, chartruse and the orange peel are doing the best in the worms, in the eggs the flo. yellow, flo. ornage, white and the hatch brown are working best. You need a lot of weight right now to keep an egg anchored on the bottom, a 1/8th bell sinker or worm weight is needed in most of the holes right now. Marabou jigs are good right now, you just have to use the bigger heads, or add sinkers to your smaller jigs, I'm using jigs as large as 1/8th of an ounce right now. Roostertails, little cleos, super dupers, rebel crawdads, rapala minnows and about any litte deep diver plug 3" and smaller can be used right now, the fish seem to like the bigger plugs when the water is running high, I think they can find them eaiser. In zone 3 nightcrawlers and corn have been working well. Minnows are good but you'll have to catch them yourselves, bring a seine and go below the park and catch you a mess of minnows and try them out. Don't seine minnows in the park, I think it is against the rules. Good luck.

Roaring river campground is right behind the shop, Mark has a nice quiet campground, don't know what he has open but if you can get in it is a nice place. His # is 417-847-3235 Two other places to check on are Rock Villiage Court, and the Oak Hill Rv Camp ground, sorry don't have there #'s Call me at the shop tomorrow and I'll give them to you if you can't find them on a Google web search. shop # 417-847-4956