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No, Meaning that thier spawning seasons are adjusted by the number of hours of daylight in a day. As the seasons change, there is always an increase/decrease in daylight hours. Thier biological clock is timed by those daylight hours. That is the biggest factor in Lower Taney. On other waters the temperature tends to be the key factor. Since Taney has no seasonal temperature changes(not drastic anyway) the fish follow the suns patterns from season to season.

It averages 7 to 9 feet deep until you get to the area near the island where you can find water 16 to 20 feet. Dont let the shallow water fool you. I catch 90 percent of my fish in Bull in less than 5 feet of water. That is year round. It may be one of the warmest areas of Lower Taney but it rarely differs more than 6 to 8 degrees from the main lake. And I may catch alot of fish "near those lilly pads, but other than the occassion sport bass or crappie, there really isnt that many fish in them. The White bass do like to cruise the edges for there usually is an abundance of bait fish in them. I use them as attractors but not as cover. When the coontails clog up the mouth, you will find alot of trout on the inside of those pesky weeds, Especially if the water isnt generating. The best areas in the creek are definately the flats. There is one on your left as you enter and there is another that comes out to a point right in the middle. you can recognize both from the timber sticking out of the water. The third flat, behind the island, holds fish on the edge but I wouldnt waste alot of time on it.

Ha ha Zander that was funny. Lets remember that the cubbys still havent won a world series! We should show some pity for the guy!

I hope that the squeaky wheel does get greased. Not to rain on your parade, but it still is what it is. And it is still in Arkansas wich has one of the worst reputations in the nation on this criteria. Even a worse reputation in doing anything about it. Of course, no worse than my reputation for being a pessimist. Good luck to ya.

Bank fishing is rough here in the ozarks. Soo much private land. Not enough public access. When I used to bank fish alot, I loved to fish Flat Creek for cats at night. My favorite spot was always under Flat Creek Bridge. Last time I took my son ( who was 16 at the time) and we caught about 30 of them fiesty channels.

Sounds like my kind of dog. I am sure my Valentine(as seen on my blog) can teach her some tricks. What is her name? At her age she sounds like she will be great here in the woods alerting her master thet cars have got close. Plus will probably be a friend to Val. Maybe she will have more guts againsts the possums and armadillos. My Val hates to fight animals that dont fight back. She is a chaser.

Typically the bluegill spawn on Lower Taney is a few weeks after the bass spawn. They like to use the old beds of the bass and tend to care less for thier offspring. Males do make the nest though so they tend to be most aggressive first in the spring. Normally I see the gills stage in early april and then they spread off in mid may. Not the case this year. As they normally spread they seem to congrigate near cover. Meaning by this time of year they will be infesting my dock. Not the case! Dont try to judge this lake like others. The cold water pushes warm water species in funny directions. The "cold" hard facts are that all the flood stages timed itself just enough that those warm water fish will be off. Especially after a diluge. I know I am not the only one feeling the reality of that. It goes for ALL species. As long as the water runs high the upper lake benifits and the lower becomes more difficult to figure. When the generaters shut down then the upper suffers and it will take days before the lower responds. Its a human made oxymoron. Trust me on this one thing though....In this lake ...Water temps mean nothing. Fish move according to daylight. And I mean All fish species. Flood situations hinder for granted but typically it is all about the sun.

From my experiance...unless you own the property that is being "dumped", you wont have a legit complaint and you will be observed as a nature hugger. Heck, I push tons(literally) of trash off my dock that end up in Arkansas. Am I supposed to collect all that plastic, foam, and waste? I collect my fair share just fishing. All you can do is take home more trash than you left with and feel that you contributed. The human Anthill is too big to take on yourself and not even the Gov can do it all. Sucks, but it is what it is.

Is she just a pet or can she work? I only ask because my dogs like to kill varmits. I am down to one now and my Valentine( as seen on my blog) might enjoy a hunting partner. From what I know of Jack Russells they can be viscious territory dogs. Just what I like

"Flaming"? Is that a dont ask dont tell kind of thing?

Check this site out! http://mdc.mo.gov/documents/fish/aquaguides/fishstock.pdf Missouri Department of Conservation Private Pond Stocking Program Fingerling largemouth bass, bluegill and channel catfish for the initial stocking of a new or renovated pond can be obtained from the Missouri Department of Conservation through its private pond stocking program. To be eligible for participation in the program, a pond must meet the following requirements: Water must be at least eight feet deep. Water and shoreline must be protected from livestock use (ponds over five acres need not be fenced). The dam must be constructed for permanency and water tightness, and the drainage area should be adequate but not excessive for water storage. No undesirable fish may be present prior to stocking. Water quality must be sufficient to ensure the survival of the stocked fish and sustain good fishing. Stocking will not endanger species of conservation concern. Landowners interested in participating in the program, complete a pond stocking application and submit it by July 15th. The pond is inspected, and if it meets the criteria, the landowner is informed of the number of fish that will be provided and the arrangements for fish distribution. Young-of-the year bluegill and channel catfish are distributed in September, and young-of-the-year largemouth bass are distributed the following June. Landowners participating in this program are not obligated to allow fishing or other uses of their land by the general public but the pond and its fish are subject to the regulations of the Wildlife Code of Missouri.

I think that if it is a necessary task it could just as easily be "copy" and "pasted". Just a snippet from the same Topic , Placed by the Same Member, On the Same day in a different OAF Forumn. As a "been-there", I can say that it has alot to do with whom your associated with, and whom you know, than as it does with talent. It is a popularity thing ultimateley. You cant manage a living without sponsors and you cant get sponsors unless you can sell thier product. Wich requires name recognition for the most part. That requires social buzz through your fellow competitors. Wich as Dutch says, selling yourself, to accomplish a good standing amongst your peers. Talent is a very small part of it. I have talent and almost a decade of experiance doing guide work. I even have tourney Admin experiance and competed/participated in hundreds of tourneys with a 70 percent top 3 finish ratio. But when I went pro I lost the farm. Nobody offered me any sponsorship so when my well went dry, I was done. My failure was totally based on the fact that I am an isolationist and dont socialize. Nor do I "brown nose" to crawl a pedistal of exceptance. My personality is there but not on the surface. And I naively assumed that actions spoke louder than words. Search out some of the previous threads that are here on OAF about working in the industry. There is quite abit said on this topic. Not trying to discourage anyone, just laying down some of the sad hard realities of business. Its very clichish and nepitism is rampant. Its a dog eat dog business and if you arent in bed with a pack, then your wearing the pork chop earings. DonWOW this one hits home for me... I spent many years fishing the local and club events, did ok made some money, but nothing like I really needed to make it. Spent way to much time away from my wife and girls! So I decided to take this to another level and try guiding for a living. It has been hard and still is, but I love it, and my wife loves to see me happy so she puts up with it also. I did some things that most people did not understand for the first three years of guiding, had to stay behind in the shadows of other people and try to learn the in's and outs of guiding, but the stubborn side of me wanted to make it on my own, Well this is my first year on my own, I'm working and paying the bills, well almost if you talk to my wife of 24 years. These things I did I knew would pay off for me in the long run, I just had to deal with it and put in my time. I had to give up fishing tournaments and save my money to make this work. I did and I do miss it alot, but I know will get back into it here really soon. Finding real sponsorships was the challenge, I knew that someone was not just going to handout anything, I had to bust my rear end to get it. So I did, I spent the last 4 years working every sport show I could during the winter, I was gone about 2 months straight every year, and alot of this was for free. But I learned one thing, it's not how good you can fish it's how good you can sell and promote their products and the fishing well that was just icing on the cake. By attending all of these sport shows I was able to meet some really great people in the business to help me fine tune my presentation and skills and believe me I'm still learning to this day. I was lucky and was able to meet a great gentlemen by the name of James Grandt he owns a company called Grandt Rods, a multi million dollar rod company in Chi-town IL. Mr. Grandt taught me alot of the skills I have today. He taught me how to talk with possible sponsors and how to show them you can make a impact on there bottom line and when a Multi-Millionaire takes the time to talk with you man you listen to every word, and that was my lucky break. I was able to work hard and obtain my first really good sponsorship with Grandt Rods and then after some really even harder work I was able to meet with G3 Boats in Lebanon Missouri. Months went by working with the Marketing Director of G3 Boats trying to sell them on the ideal that a guide could help promote and sell there product all over the US. My Business plan and marketing plan was based on the ideal that a guide could place their product in front of 1000's of prospective buyers every year here in Branson Missouri and all over the US. Well after alot of long sleepless nights and many days thinking it was not going to work, it finally fell together I had a really big sponsorship, a real boat deal with a major boat manufacture. I was in the position to start my own company. I've had to teach myself how to market myself and my company via web site presents, had to teach myself how to do that also, because I could not afford to have one built for me. There is alot of beating on doors and taking alot of "NO" we are not interested! But I stuck with it and kept moving forward, believe me I have made alot of mistakes and have learned from everyone of them and I know I'm not out of the woods yet. But I know I'm on the right path now and the phone is ringing everyday. So if you are really interested in making this a real job, here is what to keep in mind. 1) Start small, work your way up, don't try to hit that home run right off the bat. 2) Ask questions and Ask for help from anyone that will help you. 3) Don't be afraid to knock on doors. Meet as many people as you can. 4) Understand Business if you don't then read everything you can find! 5) A good Resume and Business plan goes a long way. 6) Don't do stupid things, think before you act, and if you do make a mistake fix it and learn from it. "Phil Lilley knows what I'm talking about on that one, that was one of my not to forget mistakes!" 7) If you fall get back up and try again " Never say Never" 8) Make this a fun job, and if it get to the point were it is no fun then remember where you came from and what you used to do! 9) And last but not least work hard then work even harder! I spend more time now working then I ever had before, is it worth it Hell YES. Hope this helps some, sorry if I rambled on but it really hit home with me and everything I have been through to get were I'm at today. Good Fishing Everyone Capt. Don House Trav Capt Don Number 8 is exactly why I dont do the tourney thing anymore. And after almost a decade of being a guide and catering to others I had almost lost all drive for the fun of the sport. I finally had to just get selfish and start thinking of what I wanted instead of servicing or competing. It is very important not to lose grip of the fact that it is a pleasure sport and not get wrapped up with treating it like an industry. Doesnt matter what you do for a living. When your zeal becomes your job, it can quickly turn into a grind. If you dont keep open your perspective as to why you jumped into it from the start, and hang on to that, your favorite hobby can quickly be something you "have" to do other than what you "want" to do.

Welcome!

Welcome!

How many times is this subject going to be brought up? I think there are at least 4 threads discussing this within the last 6 months. Try reading some back threads. You will find the info your looking for.

Hey Crappie, You know I dont do alot of crappie fishing and my old 400 series humminbird doesnt give me water temps. But I did have an interesting conversation with Russel (aka Naru?) yesterday while I was pushing logs off my dock. He was explaining his findings on water temps in the Lower. So if you want exact temps he will be a good guy to ask. The temps vary so little through out the year on Taney, that it is quite difficult to determine when the crappie( and Bass as pertained to our conversation) will be close to a spawn. It is much easier to factor the number of hours a dayight there is. Wich is the most determining factor on all fish movement on Taneycomo. This includes ALL fish. Even the Brownies run up stream in the months there are few hours of sun. (Brownies are a very nocternal species. The majority of thier movement happens at night. Just ask Leonard and he can probably confirm that.) And the presence of a fall moot-spawn in Bass confirms that the daylight pretty much rules this lake in that regard. As far as Crappie( to get back to the Topic at hand,) Take what you know about them in other lakes, but keep in mind that water temp is low on the prerequisites for them to spawn. If I am correct, Crappie are equal light/dark spawners wich means they should be done by now. But with all the crazy water, who knows where everything is anymore. I for one, will be glad when it is 90 degrees everyday and the heat of the summer puts the lake as a whole back into a more recognizable pattern.

Watch it Mike! I might take you up on that!

Wow Is it "Super-Nanny" for fishing Forumns?

I had to read it twice myself!

I understand it as only bluegills, sunfish, or bullhead under 5 inches may be used as bait no matter the method they were taken. Code States; (4) Length Limits: All bluegill, green sunfish and bullheads more than five inches (5") in total length and other fish more than twelve inches (12") in total length must be returned to the water immediately after being caught by the methods prescribed in this rule, except there are no length limits for bighead carp, common carp, gizzard shad, goldfish, grass carp and silver carp. (2) Methods. (A) Live bait may be taken by a trap with throat opening not to exceed one and one-half inches (1 1/2") in any dimension, dip net, throw net, pole and line, or a seine not more than twenty feet (20') long and four feet (4')deep, of a mesh not more than one-half inch (1/2") bar measure. ( Live bait, except fish, may be taken by hand. © Crayfish may also be taken by trap with an opening not to exceed one and onehalf inches (1 1/2") by eighteen inches (18").

Page 77, stipulation 4 in the Wildlife Code book. Here is a link to it online. Read Chapter 6. http://www.sos.mo.gov/adrules/csr/current/3csr/3csr.asp

Haha If my old 'Rude had a tach, a gps, and an onboard computer.

I dont fish weekends. As far as cover/structure.......I used to be able to find every stick in the mud, but since they opened the flood gates, alot of it has shifted or dissapeared altogether. On the lighter side, new ones have popped up. Certain flats and points have had some changes as well. Some have gotten bigger while others have all but dissapeared. Most the changes are quite suttle and unless you have fished the area for a number of years you probably wont notice much more. I havent really done a thorough investigation, just a quick overview. I will get a better feel for it all later this summer when I am confident the Brownies have settled in. Thats when I will be hitting the deep 20 to 40 foot holes. I am sure I will have to work for my fish for at least a year until I have my dozen or so spots again. With me, its all routine and systematic. I rotate my holes some but I play the averages game. If I know fish hole up in a certain spot, I just fish it over and over. Sooner or later my luck always breaks and it pays off. Its not the funnest way to fish, but I do catch quite a few Brownies over 20 inches that way.

Here are the AOY standings mid season! CURRENT STANDINGS 2008 Pride of Georgia - Pride of Georgia Pro Points After Clarks Hill Lake, Columbia County, Ga. Ending 05-04-2008, Day 4------------------------------------------- Place Name St Pts ------------------------------------------- 1 Todd Faircloth Texas 1267 2 Mike McClelland Ark. 1240 3 Skeet Reese Calif. 1204 4 Scott Rook Ark. 1199 5 Dean Rojas Ariz. 1195 6 Kenyon Hill Okla. 1186 7 Alton Jones Texas 1163 8 Kevin VanDam Mich. 1155 9 Mark Davis Ark. 1152 10 Bobby Lane Fla. 1109 11 Derek Remitz Ala. 1108 12 Gary Klein Texas 1105 13 Rick Morris Va. 1085 13 Bryan Hudgins Fla. 1085 15 Casey Ashley S.C. 1071 16 Edwin Evers Okla. 1067 17 Randy Howell Ala. 1063 18 Britt Myers S.C. 1058 19 Terry Scroggins Fla. 1055 20 Fred Roumbanis Okla. 1031 21 Bill Lowen Ohio 1015 22 Brian Snowden Mo. 1007 23 Jared Lintner Calif. 1002 24 Michael Iaconelli N.J. 1000 25 Bernie Schultz Fla. 999 26 Kevin Short Ark. 996 27 Ish Monroe Calif. 977 28 Morizo Shimizu Japan 971 29 Kotaro Kiriyama Ala. 942 30 Dave Wolak N.C. 935 31 Aaron Martens Ala. 933 32 Billy Brewer Texas 931 33 Dustin Wilks N.C. 923 34 Denny Brauer Mo. 921 35 Brent Chapman Kan. 918 36 Byron Velvick Texas 917 37 Kelly Jordon Texas 916 37 Shaw Grigsby Fla. 916 37 Steve Kennedy Ala. 916 40 Ray Sedgwick S.C. 913 41 Jason Quinn S.C. 910 42 Jason Williamson S.C. 906 42 Takahiro Omori Texas 906 44 Mark Menendez Ky. 903 45 Timmy Horton Ala. 891 46 Gerald Swindle Ala. 889 47 Scott Campbell Mo. 880 48 Cliff Pace Miss. 878 49 Jeff Kriet Okla. 868 50 Davy Hite S.C. 866 51 Chris Lane Fla. 858 52 Russ Lane Ala. 850 53 Kevin Wirth Ky. 834 54 Preston Clark Fla. 826 55 John Crews Va. 824 56 Mike Wurm Ark. 823 57 Tommy Biffle Okla. 818 58 Clark Reehm Ark. 814 59 Bradley Hallman Okla. 811 60 Greg Hackney La. 808 61 Peter Thliveros Fla. 806 62 Matt Reed Texas 793 63 Boyd Duckett Ala. 787 64 Marty Stone N.C. 778 65 Brian Clark Texas 772 66 Paul Elias Miss. 764 66 Jay Fuller Okla. 764 68 Rick Clunn Mo. 763 69 Greg Gutierrez Calif. 759 70 Wade Grooms S.C. 751 71 Jeff Reynolds Okla. 744 72 Jimmy Mize Ark. 737 73 Jim Murray Ga. 726 74 Ben Matsubu Texas 722 74 Yusuke Miyazaki Texas 722 74 Matthew Sphar N.Y. 722 77 Elton Luce Texas 709 78 Jon Bondy Canada 700 79 Pat Golden N.C. 695 80 Jami Fralick S.D. 693 81 Zell Rowland Texas 687 82 Stephen Browning Ark. 684 83 Jeff Connella La. 679 84 Guy Eaker N.C. 675 85 Terry Butcher Okla. 671 86 Marty Robinson S.C. 668 87 Kevin Langill N.C. 662 88 Kurt Dove Va. 653 88 Rick Ash Pa. 653 90 Mark Tucker Mo. 649 91 Charlie Hartley Ohio 647 92 Mark Tyler Okla. 643 93 James Niggemeyer Texas 634 94 David Sherrer La. 624 95 John Murray Ariz. 622 96 Ken Cook Okla. 621 97 David Smith Okla. 611 98 Grant Goldbeck Md. 573 99 Steve Daniel Fla. 572 99 Todd Auten S.C. 572 101 James Kennedy La. 565 102 Jeremy Starks W.Va. 551 103 Corey Waldrop Texas 537 104 Paul Hirosky Pa. 506 105 Pete Ponds Miss. 498 106 Glenn Delong Ohio 496 107 Randy Allen La. 473 108 Matt Amedeo Ohio 446 109 Bobby Myers Okla. 438 CURRENT STANDINGS 2008 Battle on the Border - Battle on the Border Pro Points After Lake Amistad, Del Rio, Texas Ending 04-13-2008, Day 3------------------------------------------- Place Name St Pts ------------------------------------------- 1 Mike McClelland Ark. 1017 2 Todd Faircloth Texas 995 3 Mark Davis Ark. 991 4 Dean Rojas Ariz. 970 5 Scott Rook Ark. 963 6 Skeet Reese Calif. 940 7 Alton Jones Texas 906 8 Derek Remitz Ala. 895 9 Bobby Lane Fla. 892 10 Bill Lowen Ohio 890 11 Bryan Hudgins Fla. 882 12 Kenyon Hill Okla. 881 13 Rick Morris Va. 870 13 Kevin VanDam Mich. 870 15 Gary Klein Texas 865 16 Terry Scroggins Fla. 854 17 Randy Howell Ala. 842 18 Brian Snowden Mo. 838 19 Byron Velvick Texas 817 20 Britt Myers S.C. 807 21 Michael Iaconelli N.J. 801 22 Kevin Short Ark. 799 23 Mark Menendez Ky. 796 24 Jason Williamson S.C. 795 25 Steve Kennedy Ala. 793 26 Bernie Schultz Fla. 792 27 Aaron Martens Ala. 791 27 Casey Ashley S.C. 791 27 Fred Roumbanis Okla. 791 30 Jason Quinn S.C. 777 31 Jared Lintner Calif. 772 32 Edwin Evers Okla. 767 33 Billy Brewer Texas 764 34 Ray Sedgwick S.C. 760 35 Ish Monroe Calif. 758 36 Kotaro Kiriyama Ala. 737 36 Brent Chapman Kan. 737 38 Morizo Shimizu Japan 735 39 Takahiro Omori Texas 734 40 Kelly Jordon Texas 731 41 Shaw Grigsby Fla. 729 42 Mike Wurm Ark. 728 43 Scott Campbell Mo. 727 44 Dave Wolak N.C. 726 45 Matt Reed Texas 702 46 Clark Reehm Ark. 700 47 Kevin Wirth Ky. 699 48 Paul Elias Miss. 694 49 Dustin Wilks N.C. 690 50 Russ Lane Ala. 685 51 Preston Clark Fla. 667 52 Gerald Swindle Ala. 662 53 Rick Clunn Mo. 658 54 Denny Brauer Mo. 656 55 Jimmy Mize Ark. 655 56 Tommy Biffle Okla. 639 57 Marty Stone N.C. 636 58 Jay Fuller Okla. 635 59 Elton Luce Texas 634 60 Cliff Pace Miss. 633 61 Jeff Kriet Okla. 625 61 Brian Clark Texas 625 63 Boyd Duckett Ala. 624 64 Jon Bondy Canada 621 65 Bradley Hallman Okla. 618 66 Greg Hackney La. 617 67 Zell Rowland Texas 616 68 Timmy Horton Ala. 615 69 John Crews Va. 613 70 Chris Lane Fla. 610 71 Matthew Sphar N.Y. 608 72 Guy Eaker N.C. 606 73 Terry Butcher Okla. 603 74 Stephen Browning Ark. 591 75 Ben Matsubu Texas 585 76 Wade Grooms S.C. 579 77 Pat Golden N.C. 577 78 Jami Fralick S.D. 572 79 Davy Hite S.C. 571 80 Jeff Reynolds Okla. 567 81 Yusuke Miyazaki Texas 565 82 Kurt Dove Va. 564 83 Mark Tyler Okla. 558 84 Ken Cook Okla. 549 85 Mark Tucker Mo. 540 86 Peter Thliveros Fla. 538 87 Jeff Connella La. 532 88 Jim Murray Ga. 531 89 Greg Gutierrez Calif. 529 90 Charlie Hartley Ohio 518 91 Kevin Langill N.C. 515 92 Rick Ash Pa. 500 93 Todd Auten S.C. 498 94 Steve Daniel Fla. 496 95 John Murray Ariz. 493 96 Marty Robinson S.C. 479 97 James Kennedy La. 478 98 Grant Goldbeck Md. 476 99 Corey Waldrop Texas 461 100 James Niggemeyer Texas 451 101 David Sherrer La. 449 102 Bobby Myers Okla. 438 103 Pete Ponds Miss. 425 104 Glenn Delong Ohio 414 105 Jeremy Starks W.Va. 412 106 Paul Hirosky Pa. 388 107 Randy Allen La. 373 108 David Smith Okla. 357 109 Matt Amedeo Ohio 343 CURRENT STANDINGS 2008 Lone Star Shootout - Lone Star Shootout Pro Points After Falcon Lake, Zapata, Texas Ending 04-06-2008, Day 4 ------------------------------------------- Place Name St Pts ------------------------------------------- 1 Mark Davis Ark. 770 2 Dean Rojas Ariz. 761 3 Scott Rook Ark. 757 4 Rick Morris Va. 747 5 Kenyon Hill Okla. 734 6 Mike McClelland Ark. 732 7 Casey Ashley S.C. 722 8 Bryan Hudgins Fla. 707 8 Kevin VanDam Mich. 707 8 Skeet Reese Calif. 707 11 Terry Scroggins Fla. 704 12 Bobby Lane Fla. 691 13 Todd Faircloth Texas 690 13 Steve Kennedy Ala. 690 15 Derek Remitz Ala. 680 16 Bill Lowen Ohio 671 17 Byron Velvick Texas 664 18 Ray Sedgwick S.C. 663 18 Alton Jones Texas 663 20 Aaron Martens Ala. 660 21 Brian Snowden Mo. 655 22 Mike Wurm Ark. 654 23 Shaw Grigsby Fla. 653 24 Britt Myers S.C. 650 25 Jason Quinn S.C. 636 26 Jared Lintner Calif. 611 26 Mark Menendez Ky. 611 28 Bernie Schultz Fla. 603 29 Randy Howell Ala. 597 30 Paul Elias Miss. 589 30 Gary Klein Texas 589 32 Matt Reed Texas 587 33 Gerald Swindle Ala. 577 34 Fred Roumbanis Okla. 568 35 Kelly Jordon Texas 564 36 Michael Iaconelli N.J. 561 36 Dave Wolak N.C. 561 38 Brent Chapman Kan. 544 38 Morizo Shimizu Japan 544 40 Scott Campbell Mo. 524 41 Preston Clark Fla. 522 42 Dustin Wilks N.C. 519 43 Tommy Biffle Okla. 512 44 Chris Lane Fla. 511 45 Jason Williamson S.C. 510 45 Ish Monroe Calif. 510 47 Kevin Short Ark. 509 48 Edwin Evers Okla. 503 49 Takahiro Omori Texas 501 50 Wade Grooms S.C. 498 50 Marty Stone N.C. 498 52 Jimmy Mize Ark. 496 52 Billy Brewer Texas 496 54 Ben Matsubu Texas 492 54 Jeff Reynolds Okla. 492 56 Boyd Duckett Ala. 489 57 John Crews Va. 484 57 Terry Butcher Okla. 484 59 Kotaro Kiriyama Ala. 483 60 Pat Golden N.C. 476 61 Kevin Wirth Ky. 474 62 Guy Eaker N.C. 473 63 Rick Clunn Mo. 471 64 Peter Thliveros Fla. 465 65 Charlie Hartley Ohio 447 66 Timmy Horton Ala. 446 67 Russ Lane Ala. 445 68 Yusuke Miyazaki Texas 440 69 Zell Rowland Texas 439 70 Rick Ash Pa. 432 71 Jay Fuller Okla. 429 72 Jeff Kriet Okla. 426 72 Kevin Langill N.C. 426 74 Jim Murray Ga. 424 74 Jon Bondy Canada 424 76 Cliff Pace Miss. 422 77 Mark Tyler Okla. 420 78 John Murray Ariz. 410 79 Elton Luce Texas 407 80 Clark Reehm Ark. 405 81 Bradley Hallman Okla. 401 82 Davy Hite S.C. 398 83 Stephen Browning Ark. 396 83 Denny Brauer Mo. 396 85 Ken Cook Okla. 394 86 Brian Clark Texas 392 87 Corey Waldrop Texas 391 88 James Kennedy La. 383 89 Jeff Connella La. 382 90 David Sherrer La. 370 91 Marty Robinson S.C. 366 92 Mark Tucker Mo. 359 93 Matthew Sphar N.Y. 357 94 Steve Daniel Fla. 353 95 Glenn Delong Ohio 347 96 Greg Hackney La. 345 97 Jami Fralick S.D. 335 98 Pete Ponds Miss. 334 99 James Niggemeyer Texas 330 100 Bobby Myers Okla. 321 101 Todd Auten S.C. 319 102 Paul Hirosky Pa. 316 102 Greg Gutierrez Calif. 316 104 Jeremy Starks W.Va. 303 105 Kurt Dove Va. 302 106 David Smith Okla. 270 107 Matt Amedeo Ohio 266 108 Randy Allen La. 262 109 Grant Goldbeck Md. 247 CURRENT STANDINGS 2008 Citrus Slam - Citrus Slam Pro Points After Kissimmee Chain, Lake Wales, Fla. Ending 03-16-2008, Day 4 ------------------------------------------- Place Name St Pts ------------------------------------------- 1 Bobby Lane Fla. 562 2 Mike McClelland Ark. 541 3 Kenyon Hill Okla. 539 4 Bill Lowen Ohio 530 5 Kevin VanDam Mich. 523 6 Steve Kennedy Ala. 517 7 Dean Rojas Ariz. 513 8 Bryan Hudgins Fla. 500 9 Todd Faircloth Texas 497 10 Rick Morris Va. 493 11 Mark Davis Ark. 490 12 Scott Rook Ark. 481 13 Alton Jones Texas 476 14 Skeet Reese Calif. 472 15 Ray Sedgwick S.C. 462 15 Casey Ashley S.C. 462 17 Randy Howell Ala. 454 18 Britt Myers S.C. 447 19 Mark Menendez Ky. 446 20 Brian Snowden Mo. 440 21 Mike Wurm Ark. 437 22 Derek Remitz Ala. 436 23 Fred Roumbanis Okla. 432 24 Jared Lintner Calif. 430 25 Dave Wolak N.C. 428 26 Chris Lane Fla. 416 27 Shaw Grigsby Fla. 414 28 Jason Quinn S.C. 411 29 Terry Scroggins Fla. 409 30 Guy Eaker N.C. 401 30 John Crews Va. 401 32 Billy Brewer Texas 392 33 Byron Velvick Texas 374 34 Morizo Shimizu Japan 373 35 Preston Clark Fla. 371 36 Rick Clunn Mo. 362 37 Aaron Martens Ala. 360 38 Bernard Schultz Fla. 359 38 Tommy Biffle Okla. 359 40 Edwin Evers Okla. 358 40 Matt Reed Texas 358 42 Gerald Swindle Ala. 356 43 Jay Fuller Okla. 342 44 Rick Ash Pa. 341 45 Peter Thliveros Fla. 340 46 Gary Klein Texas 338 47 Kelly Jordon Texas 337 48 Brent Chapman Kan. 332 49 Jeff Reynolds Okla. 329 50 Bradley Hallman Okla. 327 51 Clark Reehm Ark. 326 52 Kevin Short Ark. 325 53 Zell Rowland Texas 323 54 Wade Grooms S.C. 321 55 Marty Stone N.C. 319 56 Terry Butcher Okla. 317 57 Pat Golden N.C. 315 58 Timmy Horton Ala. 310 59 Stephen Browning Ark. 307 60 Michael Iaconelli N.J. 304 61 Cliff Pace Miss. 300 62 Jimmy Mize Ark. 299 62 David Sherrer La. 299 64 Charlie Hartley Ohio 298 65 Denny Brauer Mo. 297 66 Elton Luce Texas 296 67 Ishama Monroe Calif. 291 68 Marty Robinson S.C. 290 69 Russ Lane Ala. 289 69 Mark Tyler Okla. 289 71 Paul Elias Miss. 284 72 Dustin Wilks N.C. 280 72 Boyd Duckett Ala. 280 74 Glenn Delong Ohio 278 75 Kevin Wirth Ky. 275 75 Jeff Connella La. 275 77 Kotaro Kiriyama Ala. 271 78 Takahiro Omori Texas 270 79 Jon Bondy Canada 268 80 James Kennedy La. 264 81 Matthew Sphar N.Y. 260 81 Jami Fralick S.D. 260 83 Bobby Myers Okla. 254 84 Brian Clark Texas 253 85 Scott Campbell Mo. 252 86 John Murray Ariz. 251 87 Jim Murray Ga. 249 87 Steve Daniel Fla. 249 89 Mark Tucker Mo. 243 90 Jason Williamson S.C. 242 91 Pete Ponds Miss. 241 92 Todd Auten S.C. 238 93 Yusuke Miyazaki Texas 235 94 Kurt Dove Va. 229 95 Ben Matsubu Texas 228 96 Ken Cook Okla. 225 97 Jeremy Starks W.Va. 218 97 Greg Hackney La. 218 99 James Niggemeyer Texas 208 100 Jeff Kriet Okla. 203 100 Paul Hirosky Pa. 203 102 Corey Waldrop Texas 202 103 David Smith Okla. 193 103 Kevin Langill N.C. 193 105 Randy Allen La. 192 106 Grant Goldbeck Md. 179 107 Greg Gutierrez Calif. 169 108 Matt Amedeo Ohio 165 109 Davy Hite S.C. 159 CURRENT STANDINGS 2008 Sunshine Showdown Pro Points After Harris Chain of Lakes, Leesburg, FL. Ending 03-09-2008, Day 4 ------------------------------------------- Place Name St Pts ------------------------------------------- 1 Mike McClelland Ark. 305 1 Brian Snowden Mo. 305 3 Bobby Lane Fla. 290 4 Chris Lane Fla. 285 5 Dean Rojas Ariz. 280 6 Steve Kennedy Ala. 276 7 Rick Ash Pa. 272 8 Todd Faircloth Texas 268 9 Morizo Shimizu Japan 264 10 Bradley Hallman Okla. 260 11 Mark Menendez Ky. 257 12 Kenyon Hill Okla. 254 12 Mark Davis Ark. 254 14 Bill Lowen Ohio 250 15 Britt Myers S.C. 248 16 Casey Ashley S.C. 243 17 Skeet Reese Calif. 241 18 Rick Morris Va. 239 19 Dave Wolak N.C. 237 20 Gary Klein Texas 235 21 Kevin Short Ark. 232 21 Bryan Hudgins Fla. 232 23 Randy Howell Ala. 229 24 Derek Remitz Ala. 227 25 Matt Reed Texas 225 26 Mike Wurm Ark. 222 26 Jimmy Mize Ark. 222 28 Fred Roumbanis Okla. 219 29 Preston Clark Fla. 217 30 John Crews Va. 215 31 Kevin VanDam Mich. 213 32 Shaw Grigsby Fla. 211 33 Jared Lintner Calif. 209 34 Stephen Browning Ark. 207 35 Guy Eaker N.C. 204 35 Russ Lane Ala. 204 37 Marty Stone N.C. 200 37 Alton Jones Texas 200 39 Glenn Delong Ohio 197 40 Tommy Biffle Okla. 194 40 Takahiro Omori Texas 194 42 Scott Rook Ark. 191 43 Matthew Sphar N.Y. 189 44 Aaron Martens Ala. 187 45 Billy Brewer Texas 185 46 Clark Reehm Ark. 183 47 Gerald Swindle Ala. 181 48 Kevin Wirth Ky. 179 49 Jim Murray Ga. 177 50 Jason Quinn S.C. 175 51 Timmy Horton Ala. 173 52 Denny Brauer Mo. 171 53 Rick Clunn Mo. 169 54 Ray Sedgwick S.C. 167 55 Scott Campbell Mo. 164 55 Marty Robinson S.C. 164 57 Yusuke Miyazaki Texas 161 58 Bernard Schultz Fla. 158 58 Bobby Myers Okla. 158 60 Ben Matsubu Texas 155 61 Edwin Evers Okla. 153 62 Boyd Duckett Ala. 151 63 Terry Scroggins Fla. 149 64 Brian Clark Texas 147 65 David Sherrer La. 145 66 Ken Cook Okla. 142 66 Mark Tyler Okla. 142 68 Cliff Pace Miss. 139 69 Elton Luce Texas 137 70 Pete Ponds Miss. 135 71 Kotaro Kiriyama Ala. 132 71 Mark Tucker Mo. 132 73 Pat Golden N.C. 129 74 Paul Elias Miss. 127 75 Byron Velvick Texas 124 75 Paul Hirosky Pa. 124 77 Michael Iaconelli N.J. 121 78 Kevin Langill N.C. 119 79 Peter Thliveros Fla. 117 80 Jay Fuller Okla. 115 81 Jeff Connella La. 112 81 Jeff Kriet Okla. 112 83 Grant Goldbeck Md. 109 84 Kurt Dove Va. 106 84 Terry Butcher Okla. 106 86 Charlie Hartley Ohio 103 87 Jon Bondy Canada 101 88 Dustin Wilks N.C. 99 89 Todd Auten S.C. 97 90 James Niggemeyer Texas 95 91 Jason Williamson S.C. 93 92 Davy Hite S.C. 91 93 Brent Chapman Kan. 89 94 Corey Waldrop Texas 87 95 James Kennedy La. 85 96 Jami Fralick S.D. 83 97 Steve Daniel Fla. 80 97 John Murray Ariz. 80 99 Matt Amedeo Ohio 77 100 David Smith Okla. 76 101 Zell Rowland Texas 75 102 Ishama Monroe Calif. 74 103 Jeremy Starks W.Va. 73 104 Jeff Reynolds Okla. 72 105 Randy Allen La. 71 106 Wade Grooms S.C. 70 107 Greg Gutierrez Calif. 69 108 Kelly Jordon Texas 68 109 Greg Hackney La. 67

Here are the results from Santee Cooper. Weight Leader Purolator Big Bass Leader Randall Tharp Gardendale, AL Weight: 44-10 Allen Glasgow Ashville, AL Big Bass Weight: 8- 3 Pl. Name DAY 1 DAY 2 TOTAL Fish Weight Fish Weight Fish Weight 1 Randall Tharp 5 19- 0 5 25-10 10 44-10 2 Matt Herren 5 23- 8 5 14-12 10 38- 4 3 Lex Costas 4 14- 2 5 20- 7 9 34- 9 4 John Cox 5 16- 1 5 18- 5 10 34- 6 5 J Todd Tucker 4 12- 0 5 22- 3 9 34- 3 6 Aaron Martens 5 17- 6 5 16-10 10 34- 0 7 Terry Scroggins 5 17-12 5 16- 0 10 33-12 8 Kenneth Ellis 5 16-10 5 16- 7 10 33- 1 9 Todd Auten 4 14-11 5 18- 0 9 32-11 10 Kenneth Chapman 5 15- 9 5 16- 5 10 31-14 11 Peter E Thliveros 5 20- 0 4 11- 1 9 31- 1 12 John Gray 5 22- 6 4 8-10 9 31- 0 13 David Cooke 5 15- 1 5 15- 3 10 30- 4 13 Brent Broderick 5 18- 3 5 12- 1 10 30- 4 15 Clint Brownlee 5 19-15 3 9- 9 8 29- 8 16 Fred Chivington 5 12- 8 5 16-13 10 29- 5 17 John Devries 2 7-13 5 21- 7 7 29- 4 18 Greg Pugh 5 13-15 3 15- 4 8 29- 3 19 Jeff Fitts 5 17- 8 5 10-11 10 28- 3 20 Arnie Lane 5 15- 0 4 12-12 9 27-12 21 Brian Hatfield 4 9- 4 5 18- 5 9 27- 9 21 Brian Wilhoit 5 14- 1 5 13- 8 10 27- 9 23 Brandon Coulter 5 17- 2 5 10- 5 10 27- 7 24 Russ Lane 3 7- 6 5 19-15 8 27- 5 25 Bobby Lane 5 12- 6 5 14- 9 10 26-15 26 Daryl Biron 5 10-13 5 15-12 10 26- 9 27 Ray Sedgwick 3 12- 2 4 14- 2 7 26- 4 27 Chuck Howard 3 7-13 5 18- 7 8 26- 4 29 Brian Holder 1 3-11 5 22- 1 6 25-12 29 Kyle Walling 5 8-12 5 17- 0 10 25-12 31 Steve Parker 4 11- 7 5 14- 2 9 25- 9 32 Luke Gritter 5 13- 5 4 12- 2 9 25- 7 33 Preston Clark 2 7- 8 5 17-14 7 25- 6 34 Lance Vick 5 11-11 5 13- 9 10 25- 4 35 Frank Scalish 5 14- 1 3 11- 2 8 25- 3 36 Jerry Stalvey Jr 5 18-13 2 6- 5 7 25- 2 37 Patrick Pierce 4 12- 9 4 12- 5 8 24-14 37 Allen Glasgow 3 6- 0 5 18-14 8 24-14 39 Robert Miley 4 9- 3 5 15- 9 9 24-12 40 Chad Griffin 3 8- 1 5 16- 4 8 24- 5 41 Casey Ashley 5 16-14 3 7- 6 8 24- 4 42 David Davis 5 16- 4 2 7-12 7 24- 0 42 Troy Morrow 3 7-14 5 16- 2 8 24- 0 44 Kevin Langill 5 17- 4 2 6-11 7 23-15 45 Greg Vinson 5 14- 0 3 9-10 8 23-10 45 Sean Dassau 4 12-10 4 11- 0 8 23-10 47 Jason Danes 5 13-11 2 9- 1 7 22-12 48 Darrell Hicks 4 7-11 4 14-14 8 22- 9 49 Felton Jackson 5 14- 4 4 7- 5 9 21- 9 50 Allen Hopper 5 19-13 1 1- 9 6 21- 6 50 Rodney Chastain 5 15-14 3 5- 8 8 21- 6 52 Cliff Crochet 3 13-10 2 7- 3 5 20-13 53 John Chaffo 5 17- 9 1 3- 0 6 20- 9 54 Tim Ezell 5 16- 0 2 4- 8 7 20- 8 55 Rusty White 5 10- 6 5 10- 1 10 20- 7 55 Will Dickens 5 11-11 3 8-12 8 20- 7 57 James Anderson 3 10- 1 5 10- 3 8 20- 4 58 Gregory Roth 2 12- 9 1 7- 9 3 20- 2 59 Russell Colwell 5 15- 0 2 4-15 7 19-15 60 Preston Johnson 5 13-12 4 5-15 9 19-11 61 Cliff Prince 2 5-11 5 13-15 7 19-10 61 Shannon Denson 5 15- 6 4 4- 4 9 19-10 63 Patrick Kelly 5 11- 7 4 7-12 9 19- 3 63 Jason Williamson 4 10-12 3 8- 7 7 19- 3 65 John Kremer 5 11- 8 4 7-10 9 19- 2 66 Doc Merkin 4 10-13 3 8- 1 7 18-14 67 Kirk Crump 4 12- 2 2 6- 4 6 18- 6 68 Skip Elliott 5 10-10 3 7- 4 8 17-14 69 Harry Moore 4 17- 9 0 0- 0 4 17- 9 70 Brett Mitchell 3 7-15 3 9- 6 6 17- 5 71 Teb Jones 2 4- 5 3 12-15 5 17- 4 72 Randy Yarnall 3 5- 3 4 11-15 7 17- 2 73 Wesley A Strader 3 6- 6 3 10- 8 6 16-14 74 Ron Klys 5 13- 2 2 3-10 7 16-12 75 Charlie Hartley 3 7- 1 4 9-10 7 16-11 76 Mark Lamb 1 3- 4 5 13- 4 6 16- 8 77 Tony Sapp 2 5-11 3 10-12 5 16- 7 78 Todd Wagman 2 9- 9 3 6- 9 5 16- 2 79 David Stephens 2 6-13 3 9- 4 5 16- 1 80 Jamie Laiche 4 7- 8 5 8- 4 9 15-12 81 Charlie Youngers 2 4-15 3 10-11 5 15-10 82 Darrin Schwenkbeck 2 7- 9 3 7-15 5 15- 8 82 Mike Wurm 2 6- 4 2 9- 4 4 15- 8 84 Marc Deschenes 5 15- 6 5 15- 6 85 Brad Roberts 5 15- 5 0 0- 0 5 15- 5 86 Rich Patterson 5 8- 2 2 7- 2 7 15- 4 87 David Kilgore 3 6- 5 5 8-12 8 15- 1 88 Randy Alexander 5 14-14 0 0- 0 5 14-14 89 Scott Mcgehee 2 5-12 5 8-14 7 14-10 90 David Mansue 3 10- 0 1 4- 1 4 14- 1 90 Brian Key 2 6- 3 2 7-14 4 14- 1 92 Dustin Evans 2 6- 5 2 7-11 4 14- 0 93 Larry Rollings 3 5- 8 4 8- 5 7 13-13 93 Terry Segraves 3 5-14 3 7-15 6 13-13 95 Sam Greer 5 13-11 0 0- 0 5 13-11 95 Jason Lambert 5 12- 1 1 1-10 6 13-11 97 Kelby Waldrip 2 4- 4 2 9- 4 4 13- 8 97 Steve Crotteau 1 0-14 5 12-10 6 13- 8 99 Dan Welch 3 10- 9 1 2- 8 4 13- 1 100 Gary Riffle 3 12-10 0 0- 0 3 12-10 101 Cecil Douberly 2 4- 4 3 8- 5 5 12- 9 102 Chuck Thurlow 2 5- 7 3 6-13 5 12- 4 103 Tony Chachere 3 7-10 2 4- 8 5 12- 2 103 Alan Bull 3 5- 3 2 6-15 5 12- 2 105 Michael Johnson 5 10-15 1 1- 0 6 11-15 106 Josh Guess 3 11-14 3 11-14 107 David Burch 3 7- 4 2 4- 5 5 11- 9 108 Patrick Anderson 1 1- 0 5 10- 8 6 11- 8 109 Lonnie Caywood 5 11- 1 5 11- 1 109 Lisa Johnson 4 8- 7 2 2-10 6 11- 1 111 Scott Smith 4 9- 5 1 1-10 5 10-15 111 Mark Rogers 3 10-15 0 0- 0 3 10-15 113 Curtis A Reeves 1 3- 1 2 7-12 3 10-13 114 Brannon Jones 3 9- 8 1 1- 4 4 10-12 115 Kevin Pulsifer 2 5- 7 2 5- 2 4 10- 9 115 Pam Martin-Wells 3 4-14 3 5-11 6 10- 9 117 Mickey Thomas 3 6-13 1 3-10 4 10- 7 117 Mike Norsworthy 1 1-13 3 8-10 4 10- 7 119 Chad Illing 1 4-11 2 5-11 3 10- 6 119 Eric Nethery 4 8- 3 1 2- 3 5 10- 6 121 Tom Hamlin 2 4- 2 2 5-14 4 10- 0 122 Edward Bohn 1 2-12 2 7- 0 3 9-12 122 Steve Linville 1 2- 1 2 7-11 3 9-12 124 Jimmy Mason 3 9- 9 0 0- 0 3 9- 9 125 George Alexander 2 3- 9 2 5-14 4 9- 7 126 Kyle A. Fox 3 7-13 1 1- 8 4 9- 5 126 Jonathon Vandam 2 7- 3 1 2- 2 3 9- 5 128 James Mcmon 2 2-10 3 6- 8 5 9- 2 128 James Nuckols 1 3- 3 3 5-15 4 9- 2 130 Shawn Strader 1 1- 1 4 7-13 5 8-14 130 Derek Remitz 1 1- 1 2 7-13 3 8-14 132 Mark Burgess 2 2-11 3 6- 1 5 8-12 133 Craig Nels 2 2- 3 3 6- 8 5 8-11 133 Bryan Hudgins 4 8-11 0 0- 0 4 8-11 135 Phillip Cury 2 3- 1 3 5- 8 5 8- 9 136 Mike Weiss 2 8- 6 0 0- 0 2 8- 6 137 John Kolinski 4 8- 1 4 8- 1 138 Bob Morin 1 2- 0 3 6- 0 4 8- 0 139 Homer Humphreys Jr. 2 4-14 1 3- 1 3 7-15 140 Allen Duke 3 7- 6 0 0- 0 3 7- 6 141 Lee Hartley 2 3-13 2 3- 8 4 7- 5 141 Raymond Derrick 1 1- 2 5 6- 3 6 7- 5 143 Scott Wiley 2 7- 3 2 7- 3 143 Jason Berg 2 3- 7 3 3-12 5 7- 3 145 Ray Brazier 2 3-10 1 3- 6 3 7- 0 146 Troy Gibson 1 6- 3 0 0- 0 1 6- 3 147 Jeff Morrison 1 5- 9 1 5- 9 148 Ryan Coleman 2 5- 8 0 0- 0 2 5- 8 149 Mike Haggerty 2 5- 6 0 0- 0 2 5- 6 150 Scott Ashmore 1 2-10 2 2-10 3 5- 4 150 Darrell Davis 2 3- 1 1 2- 3 3 5- 4 152 Hugh Crumpler 2 4-14 2 4-14 152 Chris Daniels 2 2- 2 1 2-12 3 4-14 154 Raul Morineau 1 1- 3 1 3- 3 2 4- 6 155 Lynn Oswalt 2 4- 1 0 0- 0 2 4- 1 155 Craig Fredrychowski 1 1- 4 2 2-13 3 4- 1 157 Kat Ealey 2 3-15 0 0- 0 2 3-15 158 Marc Schilling 2 3-14 0 0- 0 2 3-14 159 Eric Lewis 1 1- 3 1 2- 8 2 3-11 159 Craig Taylor 2 3-11 2 3-11 161 Mark Stewart 1 3-10 0 0- 0 1 3-10 162 Bryan Miller 1 1- 4 1 2- 5 2 3- 9 162 Stephen Barrett 2 3- 9 0 0- 0 2 3- 9 164 Marty Robinson 1 2-13 1 2-13 165 Glenn Delong 1 2-10 1 2-10 166 Bobby Stanfill 2 2- 9 0 0- 0 2 2- 9 167 Clint Belcher 1 2- 8 1 2- 8 168 Brad D Wall 4 2- 7 0 0- 0 4 2- 7 169 Keith Ray 1 2- 1 0 0- 0 1 2- 1 170 Jeffrey Mahaffey 1 1-15 1 1-15 171 Ronald Pierce 1 1-14 1 1-14 172 James Butler 1 1-11 0 0- 0 1 1-11 172 Wayne Prater 1 1-11 0 0- 0 1 1-11 174 Thomas Dooley 2 1- 7 0 0- 0 2 1- 7 175 Chris Lane 1 1- 3 0 0- 0 1 1- 3 176 Austin Banks Jr 0 0- 0 0 0- 0 176 Mark Denney 0 0- 0 0 0- 0 176 Steve Panaroni 0 0- 0 0 0- 0 176 Earl Purcell 0 0- 0 0 0- 0 176 Keith Poche 0 0- 0 0 0- 0 176 Antonio Modino 0 0- 0 0 0- 0 176 Gerald Gostenik 0 0- 0 0 0- 0 176 Tyrone Cypress 0 0- 0 0 0- 0 176 Richard Kitchens 0 0- 0 0 0- 0 176 Chad Kallina 0 0- 0 0 0- 0