Troy Gregg

I am posting for Gary Harrison, he has three working trolling motors for sale as well as a neighborhood garage sale going on this weekend in cozy cove subdivision off of bee creek. The trolling motors are: Minn Kota terrova 101 lbs thrust 36volt trolling motor $400 Motorguide four 43 lbs thrust 12 volt $100 Motorguide brute 67 lbs thrust 12 volt $100 Contact Gary at 314-603-0506 or by email at gharrison@clas.net $500 takes all three Thank you for your interest

Grand lake and bull shoals...nothing to see there. Nothing but a couple gar holes I have to agree with the magazine and Mr. Babler in this case LOZ and the Rock are an apples to oranges comparison, two totally different styles of lakes but they both produce fish and are top notch fisheries ( # 39 and #31 respectively) I think for the weekend angler LOZ is quite a bit easier to produce a solid limit of fish (10-15lb class). You can fish several patterns and still produce fish. Table rock is a little harder to figure out. Think about a new guy to down here in the summer wanting to catch fish and they hear "they're 30' down over 60' of water" not so uncommon to us here in the area but to a first time visitor that can be mind boggling. Either way we are blessed to be in a position to drive a couple hours to 4 of the top 40 fisheries in the NATION , 2 of them right here in our very own back yard.

While it is true about the fuel consumption and all that these 2 stroke motors of today are meant to be run and run hard, to much low speed /low temp operation is just as harmful if not more harmful to the engine. This allows them to build up carbon and restricts the engines performance, you don't have to keep it pegged open all the time but do it a favor and open it up for a little bit on every other outing and don't forget your additives (stabil or Quickleen ) A guy I know ran into this this year. His boat wasn't performing at the top end, it was to restricted from the buildup of low temp operation, a couple bottles of power tune and Quickleen and a tank of gas had his boat back in shape

I threw a blade off a fury when my boat was new and the prop was maybe a month old, it came apart at 6000 rpm and 77.6 mph (I was watching my gps) when the boat jerked hard and lost all momentum and about shook me outta the boat, I let up the hot foot immediately and as I idled in gear the vibration was extreme and still making the boat shake. The prop was defective and warrantied, replaced it with the same type prop and ran it for over 2 years before I had my next issue (lost its cup). I'm with mixermark and GNS, I think the issue is in the setup of the motor at this point, the rpms are correct the speed seems to be light for a skeeter, therefore I think that rooster tail is sky high and just spraying a lot of water. May need to adjust the motor height either by jack plate or the bolt holes or a combination of both to get the optimum motor height and jack plate setting. It is awfully odd to throw so many ears off so many props, most guys will only ever throw one or two in their fishing career, I know several elites who have yet to lose one. Top Gun Marine in Nixa does a top notch job with performance boats and making them run there best maybe these guys can help getting it running right

Nathan , get you some minnows for crappie and fish a shaky head and a mojo rig in the gravel spawning pockets should get you bit quite a bit

RS00765605, what kind of rpm's are you turning?

Did you notice the loss in speed/power right away or has it started happening recently? Are you getting any kind of warning beeps? Also you may run a bottle of Quickleen through her. If its gummed up a little, that will clean all the carbon out. There was another guy who had that issue and its coming back into its groove. It's all speculation until you can get warning horns or run a new or clean prop to see if that's in fact the issue.

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Tucker... Are you running a fury prop? If so you lost your cup, happened to mine last year I lost 8 mph when it went flat rooms climbed a little too

Sam your idea will work but you still want to make sure that your small mower battery is a deep cycle as well the electronics you are running do not demand a lot of juice thankfully. The big screen units would eat a small battery in a matter of a few hours at most. As long as the battery has the minimum required cranking amps it will work for cranking, it just wears it out a faster rate. Hope this helps Troy Gregg

Jerry hit the nail on the head, deep cycle batteries don't do well with a sudden demand for juice. I would put the trolling motor on its own circuit as that will eliminate any electrical drainwith your eagle unit. The Humminbird is a slightly more delicate situation, you will probably need to upgrade to a dual purpose battery with a highe cranking amp and reserve capacity to maintain enough amps to power everything

I've been hearing reports as far up as sanders hole... not quite to slough hollow. I imagine this little cold snap will push em back a day or two. However, we are on the brink of the first run I imagine. A few days of warmer weather and the should be up and ready to go.

The Fann Brothers are both excellent fisherman and proved that in the Anglers in Action Yesterday... Again bringing in over 28lbs this time with a 9.22 kicker. Brent Algeo and Jim Copeland had the other sack over 28lbs on saturday and came back sunday with over 25lbs.Lots of great fisherman in the OMTT and AIA and all of these guys can flat catch fish. I don't know what was going on around the kimberling area during the OMTT I fished and never had a bite fishing the deeper trees and bluffy type stuff. I do know some of the fish came from secondary points in the area, but I also know that some of the guys that whacked em earlier in the week came up with a goose egg. Myself included.

Wednesday we started the day out up the kings looking for crappie and some wiggle wart fish, The crappie were no where to be found and the wart fish were two largemouth both dinks. So we loaded up and headed for the James Arm. I hit Flat Creek later in the day around 11 with one other boat working the crappie. That boat had been there most of the morning with very little success as well, he had 4 crappie. I managed to find a the crappie scattered around the edge of the flats and began swam swimming minnows and grubs through them with only short hits and nibbles. They appeared to have lock jaw as the cold front pushed through. I gave them over 2 hours with nary a fish. Worked the baits along the bottom from 7 ft all the way to 12 feet. The fish were still holding pretty much 8-10 feet and on the edges of the flats. They will turn on again as the weather stabilizes. I turned around from there and went to virgin bluff looking for ol' line sides and there were fish there too, but again lock-jaw seemed to grab ahold of them, worked Jerkbaits and A-rigs over the top and through them with only a couple nibbles on the A-rig. Two paddle tails came up missing. Wish I'd had a better report to post, Tight lines everybody and the fishing is only gettin better Troy Gregg

Troller, Really the updates are for the mapping side of the HDS, If your unit is doind exactly what you want and you are not adding structure scan to it you will be ok leaving well enough alone. If you do want to expand the system, go ahead and bring it to bass pro as well, we can hook it up and update it there. I would like to offer this at these proposed seminars, however I do not have any dates or formatting done yet.

Trytofish, Inshore Mapping is probably the easist portion of the HDS to learn. Really all you are going to use it for is tracking where you've been and Marking way points. The finer Details of Mapping are used for Offshore navigation and can get much much more detailed. There are a few things to learn, like Clearing waypoints, editing waypoints and saving tracks if you are running river channels, especially with the lake being 10ft low. I can show you some of this stuff at bass pro if you wanna come on down, I usually work the evening shifts there

Thank you guys for all your input, I know several people from here all the way to little rock are looking for something along these lines thats why i had the the idea for a monthly type, they outreach is my obstacle. As far as the format goes, I know there are alot of guys with questions and all of you have different levels of experience, etc etc. With that being said there are alot misconceptions about 2d sonar and even more with the new side and down imaging. Therefor, I would have to taylor each seminar to those in attendance. or have one on one type and then do a follow up seminar on the more advanced functions of the units. I am adept at using all units, however Lowrance is what I choose, strictly by preference. All the units on today's market perform alike, just like a ford/chevy/dodge argument. When it comes down to it, all your doing is buying a name. This is why I am coming to everyone on here, help me develop a format that best serves the community. Just trying to bring everything to scope and into the light so I can hopefully prepare and execute properly. Again, Thank you everyone for your input

I appreciate the interest in this and I have been trying to think of ways to reach out to everyone in this area. I know there is a need for classes and instruction. Bass pro here in branson does not have any kind of conference room that is capable of more than half a dozen people. I would be interested in how many people might be interested in attending something say at a conference hall or something along those lines? Also what about a once a month seminar? Would this be a viable venue to pursue?

Ultralance, when you run them simultaneously you will pick up the other ones frequencies a trick is to set one at 83 and the other at 200 khz, you will get a clearer picture and the one on 83 will show you more fish... however if you get shallow the 83 will give you lines again as it is a slower stronger signal.

Ultralance, First off for their time both units you have were good units, the X-135 at 4000 watts can pick up anything you wish (if its working right). It could be the transducer has gone bad or something along those lines. If it is the transducer $75 dollars will get you going, but it could be the settings. Have you restored the unit to factory defaults and tried from there? max your ping speed out and play with the sensitivity to get the best picture. Sensitivity depends alot on the depth of water you are fishing. If you are picking up interference from you trolling motor usually a piece of foam or plastic buffer under your hose clamp will help, or a heavy heavy duty zip tie will act like a hose clamp. Just a few tips and tricks to try for anybody that has interference. Now as far as the new units, HDS is a good way to go for networking capabilities which sounds like what you want. You can get a HDS 5 for the console and a HDS 5x upfront, the 5x is without GPS. $1500 gives you a nice budget and alot of options, just depends on whats most important to you. From what you have told me, I would stick with two units and hold off on the structure scan, you can always add it to the system later when you feel comfortable. The side scan throws a new angle into the mix and provides a greater learning curve, it can be difficult to understand at first glance and takes time to wrap your head around what your seeing. Once you get that under control its priceless.

p.s. the manuals are for basic operation they fail to explain the finer workings of the units or get really confusing when trying to do so

Mixermarkb, there are no dumb questions with sonar/chartplotter units these things will do a million different things if you know how to make them do it. Now having two HDS units networked together will share waypoints, trails, and data from both sonar and structure scan across the whole system. THese are the benefits to networking the units together. This allows you to view all of the information available to you at which ever you are looking at. With a few tweaks of the settings you can have these things doing about anything you want. Now as far as card data, I.E. maps, screenshots and anything else that might be saved to a SD card is localized to the unit that the card is in. If you are trying to share a map between two units, it can't be done. Phillip, not meaning to step on your toes, just had to clarify, as always its good to hear from you

I have to agree with RPS here, the northern strain of largemouth need time to reach the double digit weights and there are only a handful of fish that break the ten pound mark. I only heard stories while I was growing up but from I remember of those stories we still have some ground to make up. But the lake has recovered quite well and will continue to get better. Last years weights that were brought in from the alabama rig should speak volumes for the health of the fish in our lake. with the majority of BIG largemouth being in that 7 1/2 to 8 1/2 lb range with a few fish in that 9lb range. The lake is really starting to show lots of numbers in the 5-7 lb range which suggests that we are on our way to recovery. The fish kill happened in 1998 which desimated the largemouth population.

your welcome Football Head

I was referring to Table Rock so you have my apologies there, Each body of water is different. Hotspots even though it is rudamentary in some aspects will still get you the backs of those coves and creek arms. The Deepwater arm on Truman specifically is a treachorous path and many of the actual mapping boats can't get back there, nor have I tested the limits of hot spots much past bucksaw... but navionics won't even get you that far. I have never been on Mark Twain so I can't comment.