Bill Babler

The fish will usually hang at the thermocline or just above. Usually this starts in the 26 to 32 ft. range. You can usually tell when we have the thermocline as the fish will move off the bottom and relate to it. The boys fishing the dam area today said they were catching fish in that range suspended over 50 to 60 ft. I find this very tough fishing and don't really like it. The dam area from Long Creek to K City are famious for this type of stuff and it just really makes you work to keep up with this type of fishing. Once you get above K City on the White or even the James, those fish will still, even with a thermocline relate to some structure like a hump, deep dock, cable or bouy marker, long point or channel swing. Much easier to catch as they will be locked in that 26 to 32 ft. range on the same type of stuff you have been fishing all year. Boys, get on here and give us some good thoughts on this, this is a very good topic.

Fished my chart speed at wide open this morning. For the life of me I could see no difference in the target size or shape. I don't know what this means, but slow and fast the picture was the same. I could still see everything just as before. There is so much we don't know about this stuff it is unbelieveable, after all the years we have used it. If you run a split screen on a 2X and a 4X zoom you can see more of the critters that are down there, sometimes. It's fun playing with the electronics just to keep tweeking it.

Lilleys' Landing has a very nice selection.

We won't have any in this weekend. They are on order. We do have olive and olive with a copper and gold head and they work extremely well also. If water is moving pink with a bright chrome head is unbeatable, we have those in stock. If you think you can tie this bug, give it a try. The head of the bug is flat molded tungsten with florecent body paint and a hand painted two part eye with iris and inner eye. It is then clear coated to an extreme shine. I have never had the paint chip or discolor on any I have ever used. I have never had one of these jigs, come apart that were made by the original maker. 1 of these bugs will litterly catch 100's of fish and keep fishing. Most fly tiers won't mess with them just for the reason that one will last for days of fishing. No money in that. Initial cost at over $3.00 each still isn't as much as the couple of dozen hand tied bugs you would use for the life of 1 micro jig. The scud patterns I tie are tied off on 3 different steps and glued twice and I will tell you, no one puts a bug together like that for resale. It will still take 2 dozen of those to give you the durability of 1 micro jig. The head resembles an egg shape, only a bit flatter on the sides. The total length of the jig including the hackle and tail is 5/16th inch. the total depth of the jig including hook shank is 1/8th inch. The hook is a mustad size 14 straight shank with a jig eye designed only for micro as I know. The hook is extremely fine and chemical sharpened. The tail and body material are hen hackle, extremely fine and the body and tail are attached to the head with srink wrap. The head has a molded body to hold the srink wrap and a design also to attach the tail. Lucky Strike makes a similar jig and sells them at walmart, They come completely apart after a couple of fish. The srink wrap fall off Everyone from Lucky Strike to Tim Buck Too has tried to tie this jig, and no one has even gotten close to the way it PRESENTS ITSELF IN THE WATER. If you are thinking of tieing it on a lead head or using maribou as a tail, forget it, way to thick and heavy on the tail and way to light on the lead head. The closest material to the hen hackle I can find is bunny zonker, and it is still way thicker. You can sit this jig in a glass of water and the tail will trimble with the glass sitting still. It is so fine and well designed, the ammount of hackle used in the tail is extremely fine and miniscule. Phil had some great maribou micro type, hand tied jigs in sculpin with the orange head and they worked really well, but I believe he is out of those also. They would catch about 3 for every 10 the original micro would catch. We had caught so many fish yesterday that I had my client in the front try one of the maribous and the gal in the middle of the boat, continue with a regular micro and the client in the back try one of the maribous. She easily caught more fish and got more bites than both her brother and dad got on both sides of her combined. Both said give me back my sculpin micro. They immediatly evened the slate and got the same number of bites. This nympth is fantastic from Clay Banks to Branson and works at it's best in the lower stretch of the restricted area on moving or flat water. These jigs arn't a secret they have been around for 20 years. Sales in Arkansas, Colorado, Montana, Utah, Wyoming and California are in the 10's of thousands per year. A book has even been written on the presentation of the miro as it is fished on the White River. Nothing will touch it below Beaver Dam thru the restricted zone. This new color is just really hot on taney right now. The Olive and the Copper and Olive have been our standby for 10 years. Phil should have some in by the 23rd. We didn't know how the new color would work so only ordered 10 doz and that was a mistake, on my part. If some of you are interested give Phil a call or email and let him know how many your want and that will help us keep our inventory in check Thanks./

Guided upper taney with Tim Paige yesterday. 3 persons each so we had boats full, to fish the restricted area. Weather was a little of this and a little of that with rain, clouds and quite a bit of heat in the afternoon. No wind or water flow before quitting time so we fished flat water for the most part. Fishing was way better than it should have been for the conditions. Both guide boats caught and released over 100 trout, all caught on a sculpin and flo-orange 1/2 micro jig. We fished the jig just off the bottom,usually about 3ft. Tried every scud pattern I had along with zebra midges and some alphebet bugs that a friend of mine gave me from one of the local guides. Nothing and I mean nothing even held a candle to the 256 oz. micro. It is a size 14 and a very compact perfectly weighted bug that hangs extremely natural and looks identical to sculpin fry. The flo orange head just seems to be a fantastic attractant. Just a slight shake of the rod tip to activate the strike indicator would induce a bite, and the bites were not soft yesterday, they wanted it. Fish were extrely active and most would shoot out of the water when they felt the steel. With the flat water, I could see a lot of the fish that ate the nympth. They would swim up to the bug and wait for any movement. As soon as it twitched they would grab it. We had been catching a few fish on a big beaded egg fly even on flat water, but no deal yesterday, they just wanted that sculpin micro. Spoke to a couple of locals that were fishing the same water, and both thought it was really tough. There always seems to be a bug they will bite, even when it's tough, you just have to stay with it and not be afraid to change and move.

I have never tried it at full chart speed, it may be better, The Lowrance boys told me a slow chart speed and a high ping speed causes the lcr to have the ability to build images at a slower rate to more define the targets. The higher chart speed moves thru the traget zone at too rapid of a rate to build a defined image. This is for depths of under 100 ft. The higher chart speed reading I was told by the Lowrance boys, was for greater depths where the image is so deep, it must read it quickly or it will be gone. The diffenation and I know I miss spelled it, will not be as good at the greater depths, with the high moving chart. I will move the chart to max speed and see if it increases my images. If it would, I would be able to see the innards on the targets. You must also remember, though even your screen is up to 10 inches wide, you are only looking at about 1 inch on the right hand side. For the most part the rest of the screen is old news.

I have had no experence with garmin electronics, so can't really say. I know Hank Parker says they are the bomb. Here are some tips that will help. Set you sensitivity to the maximum you can achieve without distortion from your trolling motor, usually 96 percent. Set your grayline at 100 percent and knock out the top 10 feet. Set your ping speed at max. and your chart speed at minimum and see what that does. Never run more than 1 unit at a time, I don't care if your tranducers are at different freqency levels, it dosen't work good enough for me. No one and I mean no one runs anything here but Lowrance. X15 and X17 I can see a 1lb. line and a 256oz micro jig on mine. A drop shot looks like a submarine. I can see fish move on the bait and tell exactly when they will bite. The only time I can't is if they are tight to cover or on the bottom.Good luck. Appreciate the kind words. If I can be of further help, give me a call at 1-800-544-0257

Fished taney on Sat and Sun, but the boys had great days on the rock this weekend. Very little traffic and lots and lots of quality fish. Tim Paige guided out of Kimberling and fished from K City to Aunts Creek and reported over 20 fish on his trip, using plum chomper drop shot worms in about 24 to 32 ft of water off the main lake gravel points and midlake humps. He said he saw almost every fish they caught and would just slowly use the trolling motor to cruse over the area, untill he saw a fish and then would tell his customers to drop. This really works. I absolutely love to look for fish in this manner. It reminds me of the movie topgun. Do you remember when there were 2 blimps on the radar screen and then the russian migs split and there were 4. Sometimes you only see 1 or 2 fish but when you drop, the screen will light up. If the fish are really close together, they will read as one and you really don't know how many there are until they break apart. This can also be a tactic that will backfire big time as if the fish are hanging right on the bottom, you can't see them and will pass over thinking there is no one at home. But we will do what we will do, its a lot more sexy to say drop and have someone bow up and say man, how can you do that! The Knob was very good on Sunday, and Buster guided up on the old home spots. He grilled me good before he went up, but didn't need me as they bite every where he went, on the drop shot. Same situation as with Tim, he saw all the fish they caught and said he really had a screen full at about every stop. Buster also reported lots of topwater whites at Shell Knob, but his clients were bass fisherman and not interested in the whites. He said they were blowing up in small schools off all the major lake points from Campbell Point to Carter Creek. T. Paige reported that the fish in the dam area were indeed on their midsummer patterns and were deep and hard to come by. Check out Don's post on summer fish and you will have an idea where and how. Deep, Suspended, Prussured and tough. I'll stay up the White River, if I have an option.

Fished taney the last couple of days with varing degrees of success no matter where I fished. Saturday I had 3 regulars that love a good trout bake and boy did I have trouble coming up with one. Anytime you are looking only for trout to eat and really nothing else, its always a stretch. Rumor had it that there were fish stocked in the Branson area last week and late this week, but no matter what tricks I tried we could only come up with 9 total in the lower section and 6 suckers. Water temp at Branson was 72. Moved up to the bait holes below fall creek and came up with the rest of their limit but I am sure glad it was 4 each instead of 5. Water temp was 49. Can't even describe the size of the fish I cleaned as they were so small. Narrow no meat silver bullets about 8 1/2 to 10 inch. I'm sure glad we dropped the limit to 4 fish per day so we could stock a higher quality fish. It's really worked out. NOT. Sunday, I fished late in the restricted zone catch and release. Much better. Lots of quality bows in the 12 to 15 inch size but you had to know what you were doing to capture them. We switched flies and moved continusly. If you caught a fish in a spot you were done. Simply move about 30 yrds. and you could do the same, catch 1 to 3 and either change flies or move abit. I did both. Best fly of the day by far was a size 16 ginger scud. You could lay it right on the bottom, with no drift or wind and they would pick it up. When the horn blew and the water started it really didn't get any faster, We caught them at the same pace only we didn't have to relocate or change flies as the boat was drifting. Beaded egg flies in orange or pink were producing far better than sanjuan's or pink jigs. WE fished these 7 ft. under a strike indicator and caught fish at a nice pace from 4 to 6 pm. Fishing is much better late. Early is not the time to be on taney, sleep in and let the water flow or the wind blow. Good Luck

It's the island in front of wolfpen. Lots of houseboats use it as a docking point to ski from. The whites were breaking between it and the bluff on the oppsite side of the lake.

If your on the rock as much as I am, you tend to have those lucky days. I have been having a couple a week, and the other days are just fishing. Usually good with enough to keep everyone happy, but then again there was today. Today's lottery winners were Phil Jones and his buddy Ron from Oklahoma. Great guys and I'm sure they deserved all the eagar beavers that stretched their strings. Things started pretty quickly at point 10 with chasing Ky's and we managed to coral 4 but not on the top, these were bottom dwellers, shallow about 16ft. Lots of company, as 4 other boats pulled in on me and we skidaddled for other spots up the white. I was rounding goat island when Ron tugged at my shirt, I was thinking about my next hot spot. Off to the left in about 170ft of water, it looked like the lake was having a volcanic eruption. Huge whites were blowing up at least 10 acres in 3 different pods. I voomed right into the middle of-em and we already had our top waters on the ready. The boys caught about 25 whites in about an hour and a half with the smallest at 31/2 and the largest over 5. All were caught on sammy's and a crome and black pradco, redfin. Not a single boat came past during the maylay, thats why I like that area. The other morning from my deck at the lodge, I could count over 30 bass boats and this is during the middle of the week. Here are some quick tips on the whites; If you arn't going to eat them, KEEP THEM OUT OF THE BOAT, AT ALL COST. These fish will and can really hurt you. always use pliers to extract treble hooks as they will flip and ruin your day. The whites we are catching are just monsters and all are full of bloody eggs and stuffed to the gills with shad. Eggs, manure and vomit are just the good things that will be in your boat if you allow them to enter. Their gill plate is as deadly as a razor knife and they will cut your legs and fin you while thrashing around the boat. It is so simple to just use the pliers to shake them off at the side of the boat. Bring a couple of pairs, I lost 1 today. I will eat whites in the spring, but these are just so nasty that I think I and everyone that is catching them with me will just have to pass. They pretty much smell like road kill. They are without a doubt one of the best game fish in the rock and are more than fun to catch. They will pull your arms till you have to rest if you get into a bunch like we did today. After the whites submerged and were gone, we went looking for real fish and from the photo's you can see that we found them. Some guys have all the luck. The Ky's were scattered today and on the ends of the flats from about 22 to 52 ft. We caught several in the 42 ft. range and caught the 52 footer as I was turning the boat at the edge of the flat. Ron said he was on the bottom so I believe this was a pretty deep fish. Again we had in the neighborhood of 20 plus keepers, after catching all those whites to boot. I am abit concerned about the lack of short Ky's, as 90 percent of these deep fish have been toads. The rest of my boy's are telling me the same thing in the white and lower james and lots of shorts in the dam area. Also a ton of shorts up the white bast twin rivers, clear to roaring river. All the Ky's were on a dropshot, plum chomper worm worked early, but watermellon candy zoom finess worm worked better as the morning progressed. Good luck I was trying to get the graph in so you all could see the depth, but as you can see I'm not that clever. Also, you may notice there are no pic's of the whites, they were just too wild, mean and nasty to photograph. yuck, but in a fun good way.

Are you sure they weren't threadfin shad? They are running the shore and spawning in the shallows all over the lake. Haven't been very far up the James however to know if it is the same critters.

Boys, I know it's really, really hard to get through your heads that for most of the time these and I mean Table Rock lake spotted bass could care less about timber. We have addressed this before. They are not ambush feeders. They are chasers! Largemouth will relate more to the timber, pole and cedars than the spots. This dosent't mean that you can't catch them on wood, because you certanly can. It is not however were volumes of Ky's hang on a normal basis. Don, bless his heart spilled way to much guide info. on the locations of these fish. They love deep docks and they love cables around these docks. They will hang over pole timber, but I am speaking of locations where the timber is very deep and the tops of the trees just come into the,25 to 30ft. range. These places described above are gathering and resting points. Remember, they are shad chasers. Main lake flat gravel humps, river channel swings and areas where flats drop into the channel are places that hold greater numbers of fish. Long flat points always harbor several Ky's as they are great places to watch for passing schools of shad. Follow the pts. way out with your electronics and watch for fish that are not relating to the bottom, simply suspended. This weekend at Shell Knob, there was a very good jig bite early. The water up there is really stained and we were catching them pretty good on a 5/16 Jewell Spider Jig with a Chomper twin tail trailer, in PBJ. Also had a good deep bite using the football head in the same jig pattern. 25 to 35 ft. WE started with a very good topwater bite, I was fishing with my son and he always kicks my tail. He had a 5lb. black on a fin and my best was not near that. Topwater kicks in about 5am and is pretty much over at 7:30. There seems to be about an hour of transition, before the deep bite really takes off and then its good. When the sun forces these Ky's back to the bottom. If it stays a bit coudy, you can have a problem as the fish won't relate to the top or bottom. Again, hard for people to understand as they think the clouds should really help. Most times of the year they do. But not on summer patterns. They do make fishing more pleasant. There is still some water in the bushes and we pitched and bladed them to death with no results. For some reason, the locations we are fishing the fish have simply not moved into those hidy holes. Way better outside the bushes early, out to about 20ft. When the sun gets up move-em on out. Good Luck

I didn't know bluff ends were summer time structure. Most of my fish were suspended over deep water in the 37 to 46 ft. range. Everyone knows the type of structure I have been fishing, I just moved way, way out. I believe I may have mentioned that it's flat gravel. Cannot get real specific as huge numbers of fish are concentrating on these very few locations and I just will not have people come and take them, for the skillet. Whole lake portions of spotted bass will move on some of these locations after the spawn. They could stay there a day or for the entire summer. I will tell you that most of these locations are a cannon shot from the bank. On one of the locations my boat was in 120 ft. of water. Move out and look deep. I told everyone last week to get a topo and learn how to read it. It is vital for the next couple of months. Every place i caught fish was a spot I found on a topo map. You can too. I just got the depth and you have it now. Try a spot you find on the topo. Use your electronics to see if the fish are their. If you can't see your line, bait and the fish while you are fishing deep, you need to go to bass pro and gear up before your next trip. I told the clients yesterday they were going to get bit about 90 percent of the time, I saw the fish moving to bite their drop shot worm. This is nothing new, we have been doing this since the X15 paper graph. Electronics are and will be for the next 3 months your only tool to catch these deep riders. Good Luck.

I felt like I was a stumbling and a bumbling around for a couple of hrs. on the rock this morning. Last trip on Table Rock was on Thursday and man did I lose the fish. When I pulled the boat at the ramp at Mill Creek on Thursday afternoon, the water temp was 63. When I took out today at 4pm it is 80. Seventeen degrees, makes a big difference. My fish had went on a walkabout and I mean big time. All the fish that were pretty much zeroed in at that 26 foot range had skee-daddled. Deep water here we come, but not befor a good bud, gave me the sceret 411 recipe. He said go deep young man go deep. No longer were those fistey critters on the fast food french fry, the had moved to the full meal deal on the drop shot. You never have to know spots on the rock, only depth. When guides speak to each other all they want to know is how deep you are finden-em. These fish put on the aqua-lung and dropped about 20 ft. further on down. Way to deep for this time of the year, but that's what happened. Zoom finess worms in watermellon candy were the absolute best bait today and I hate to admit we had well over! I just can't go there keepers. All are still cooling their fins in deep fresh Table Rock Lake water. Big post spawn thin flanked females looking for a cooler gentler place to live with lots of bait. As a guide, you want all your clients to do well, but one of my favorite boys that I have taken for years is Charles Wiles from Cape. Great Trout fisherman and sometime bass guy. He hit the grand slam today. Charles and buddy Gary Wrigley after a so so day on trout yesterday had one of those days you just never forget. I know i never will. Here are some pic's just too many fish that all looked alike to keep the camera going. I was the blind sow that found the acorn today.

Vacation, Get off this fishing site. You are trying to sell Ice to Eskimos and we neither need it or want it. IF the jobs you are touting are only paying 8 dollars per hr. We don't need them or want them either. As far as being a community activest or quoting biblical scriptures no one is impressed. Words are cheap! We are all sure that you are a true philanthropist, and are securing the future of the area for no gain. If that is the case goody for you. The Landing will help and support the Landing, period. One of the chief officers for the Landing is my neighbor, if you were really what you say you are, you would know what they expect the long range outcome to be. There is only one, and everyone with one shread of intelligence knows what that is. They built on a river for a reason, and it was voted down in Rockaway two years ago.

Had a really fun loving group from VSSI Inc. at Lilleys' the last couple of days. Saturday night saw a huge trout fry with tator's, corn on the cob and lots of really fine fixin's. Report from Friday evenng was Bob Klien, took hold of the show with Tony Wiedele. Both guides clients caught trout like they knew what they were doing. In completely different ways. Tony like most of the rest of us is an upper lake rat and he worked the streight line sculpin jig and when the water started to flow, went with the suspending stick and really caught the Brown's. Great job. Bob on the other hand took the ladie's and really put the hurtin on the fish in the bait area. I mean he had an excellent set of trout for the Saturday fish fry. Bob seems always to have a handle on the bait fishing,and he really proved it on Friday. Super job. Both guide boats reported catching about 40 fish per boat in the last 3 hrs of the day. Not bad The other 3 of us hung in there and we pretty much covered the fry so Saturday was mostly catch and release. Tim Paige had a really good day on Saturday with lots of quality rainbows on crawlers in the bait area, and my boat got them going in the restricted area on midges drifted in the shade along the bluff bank. I had a couple of very good fisherman and it allowed me to toss a dry fly a mite. Just flat super on the dry. Big, Big colored up bows along the bank. A size 8 red stimulator was the key for me and the midges were a size 16 in the blood midge pattern that I tie. About 1pm when the heat hit it was over for all. No wind and no breeze with quite a little bit of boat traffic took care of the rest of the day. It was nap time anyway after 2 days of fishing and we had to be refreshed for the picnic. Phil and his staff were great and the pavillion is one of the nicest places you can ever have a gathering. Great breeze and the lake to look at while you cook and eat. Many thanks to Curtis, Lisa, Phil and Jerry, for logistics. Tim Paige, and Becky Babler for the cooking and Melody Paige and Me for standing around and looking good. Her anyway. What a place for a great time.

How many Maggie Moo's do we need? How many Bass Pro Shops are enough? Do we need more time shares and condo's? How much can this resource handle and still be the quality fishery that it is today? Don't agree on the fishing. Wait until Bass Pro sends 50 rentals into the restricted area. I know I won't be a happy camper. I know that you don't think this is going to happen, but I was told that 40 percent of their landing rentals are going to be jet drives. I wonder why? According to those who may or may not know, the stocking pattern on taney will have to change or the limit lowered. We are already at near maximum carrying capasity for harvest. Say on the average we just put 50 additional people per day on the lake with a harvest of 2 trout per person, thats 36,500 additional fish harvested per year. I think that will hurt the fishery. If additional stocking is put in place to help with the demand, you know the fish will be of smaller size and it will also put a strain on our bug population. with more fish needed to meet demand. We went thru this in the 70's Rumor has it that the Bass Pro landing shop is really going to push the wade fishing aspect on the upper lake. I know that area needs another 10,000 waders per year. Spoke to our old biologist today and he thinks it will be a nightmare that is just not going to end. The supply will just not be able to meet the demand.

Thanks alot Don, Some of the boys including SKMO were up there a couple of days ago and just couldn't get them to go shallow. I'm sure as it clears out amite that the bite should be in the bushes unless the water starts to drop. Appreciate the info.

Vacation, You have got to be kidding. Just what we need in this area on an already completely taxed resource is more people using it. When this project started it was said that the construction would consist of lots of local labor and that the business people opening the stores would be locals using locals for help. From what I can determine over 90% of the construction is being done by contractors out of the area. Most of the stores and their owners are not from here and almost all are bringing in employee's. The fishing dock the park and the small mom and pop resorts have been replaced by more concrete and mortor, just what this water shed needs, more concrete and less trees. I would guess that you to are not from the area, or that you are involved in realestate. This is a fishing fourm and our members are concerned about the water shed and fisheries management. Not how much money can be made by tearing down long standing business and replacing them with out of place condo's, shops, and malls. Just a thought.

Talked to some folks, that were in the know, after this weeks meeting at Big Cedar. This IS NOT A FISH STOCKING PROGRAM AND WILL NOT OR EVER WILL BE ON TABLEROCK LAKE! This is a program for structure inhancement. This will mean absolutely nothing to this fishery. The only contributing factor to a better bass fishery is recruitment of spawn. The structure will mean nothing. It may concentrate fish in some locations, but no gaurantee of that either. Lake levels maintained during and after the spawn, and as many females spawning as we can get is what will help this fishery. Forage and cover are not the problem. What this boils down to is lots of pub.

Lots of guide trips this week on the rock, some very successful and some not so much. With the big lake rise, it had kind of put me in a quandry until today. Don't know if it was just dumb luck or what, but 37 bass with 12 keeper size on my thursday morning 4 hr. swaray. Previous 6 days I had only been able to come up with 110 fish. With under 25 keeper size fish. Would like to tell you guys how and where, but it was just so spread out that I don't have a clue of a pattern, except they bit everything we threw except topwater. Fished from Kimberling to almost Shell Knob and about every bank we stopped on, something came off. Smallies were in the under 15 ft. range and Ky's the same to 30 ft. on the drop shot. Fish were really spread out and could only catch 1 to 3 per spot, so as you can guess, thats lots of spots in 4 hrs. I started at Ahoy's and fished clear to Hobb's Hollow at the Knob. We are covering lots of ground. 90% of the fish were on the cenipede. Here is what some of the lakes top pay for play guys are doing. They are averaging about 18 to 24 fish per 4hr. trip. Most are fishing two clients. About 35% of their fish are at or above 15 inches. Tim Paige, Buster Loving and Tim Sainato. Point 5 to Cricket Creek Marina. Paige, is sticking with a split-shot rig cenipede in watermellon candy. Bass are coming from mid-lake humps, channel swings, and long gravel points. Depth range right now is extremely hard to pinpoint. Tim said the smallies are coming under 14ft. and the spots in the 24 to 26 ft. range. Sainato, Same area fishing long gravel points and alot of community guide banks in the 18 to 26 depth range catching nice spots on shakey head worms and big tube baits in green pumpkin. Buster is being Buster. He could catch a keeper in a bathtub in Alaska. Buster is still swimming the grub abit, as he is still catching some really nice gogs on the grub and also a green pumpkin cenipede. Said he is putting the boat in about 26 ft. and fishing really slow. Smallies are abit shallower than the spots with the spots coming in that same 24 plus foot range. He is catching his fish on secret locations numbered 1 thru 7, I know alot of them but would not be caught dead fishing his spots. If word got out that it was even mentioned, I would have to move to Arizona. Kimberling Area to Shell Knob, Bill Beck, Bill is one of the really good guys on the rock, if he can help you he will. And most of the time he has a tip or two for his bud's. Most of his topwater bite, which was really good, has dried up a mite and he is fishing the same cenipede on long slopeing gravel points and mid-lake humps. His fish are Ky's and are coming in the 24 to 26ft. range and most of the smallies are coming in the 10 to 16 ft. range. Most everything that Bill has been on is still that flat gravel, next to deep water or channel swings. Bill also reports that the football jig is starting to catch some of these deeper fish. Bill Babler, I'm not in the catigory of these guys but here is where I am stumbling on a few of those green slimmer's. Dam to Kimberling. Flat gravel ajacent to any major main lake of channel swing. Ky's are coming in the 24 ft. range and smallies a little less. Secondary points in major spawning coves. Follow the long secondary points out to the 30ft. depth range looking close at your elecronics for shad or suspending post-spawn fish. If they are on the bottom you can split shot the cenipede. If they are up a ways, try a drop shot with a plum chomper dropshot worm. Worked really good on Sat. Kimberling to Shell Knob, I am catching some post spawn fish in the back of pockets of flat gravel in the middle of the pockets in the 26 ft. range. If there are shad present and the wind in blowing into these large main lake pockets, look out. Also in the same type locations as my buds. Check out the flats at Joe Bald, lots of nice fish, coming off these flats. Shell Knob to Eagle Rock, Fish seem to be on a little chunker stuff up there. About the same depth but I like a little chunk in the gravel. There is alot more chasing and schooling action in this area. From what I understand there has been a good bite in the Kings early in the mornings on the 5/16 Black and Blue Jewel Jig. Up in the Royal Point and Deer Bluff areas of the Kings. I don't know how many of you guys ever look at a topo map, but if you haven't, now is the time. Look for those main lake humps on hard turns in the main channel. You can fish either the inside turn or the outside turn on the flat gravel, where it dumps into the channel and there will be fish there. Most of the Ky's are deeper than the smallies. Smallies, are still coming for me in these areas in under 15ft. I have not tried the bushes yet, but would love a report on anyone who has. They should be there, but it looked to me that the lake dropped a couple of inches. If it continues to drop, they will not stay there at all. That gal in the pic's could really fish. Again look at my locations in the photo's how flat is that gravel?

Maby they could take their Branson Landing project and sink it in Table Rock. That would be some great fishing structure and it would also be a gift to the entire community.

If that happens it would be beyond belief. MDC does not believe in bass stoking programs. They said after the fish kills that they just don't work and that any fish stocked would not survive the various bugs that our bass have gotten an immunity too. However you know the old saying money talks and bulls and cows walk, or something like that. I have been part of this lake program for as long as I can rember, and I have never heard of Bass Pro, spending 1 cent without a motive. We will see.

Roy, you may be onto something. After it rains and clouds things up, Longcreek can really turn on. Last year it was unbelieveable. Maby again for the next few days while the water is muddy. Thanks.