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Yup. Warm weather. I think it was up higher than normal at that time. I fish the lower parts of the Indian. Thank you.

Has anyone ever waded from Dabbs Greer town access? Last time I checked it out, it seemed you could maybe crawl along the rocks upstream to enter the creek. The water at the bend seems deep. Thank you.

I used cone head buggers, weighted buggers and flashabou buggers - all black and successful this weekend.

My father and I had great success on sow bugs, red butt and black buggers. Met some folks from Memphis, Nashville, Little Rock and Baton Rouge. I'll share a few photos.

Been hitting new water this year. Catching a lot of decent stuff while wading. Not many outings.

Jason, I do believe the owner of the course is Brett Hash who also seems to be selling all that land around the area to developers and i believe another family member is a cop there. The father owns the house by the bridge and he came out threatening me because I had scared one of his neighbors so badly just by wading that she wouldn't come oout of the house. I made my calls to verify I was in the right - which I kind of was - several neighbors had no issue with me there and I had talked to Mr.Hash several times in the past. He at first treated me like crap but we ironed out our differences. He said he was having trouble with stuff below the bridge. The county dept. said he was upset because they are building a new bridge there and taking some of his yard. I have been fishing there since before the houses and course. I parked across from his house and he said I was trespassing on his land and that he owned the whole road because it was blocked off at the bridge. Then he said his son was selling the land next to it and he knew the owner and was going to call him. Then he said he had my tag number and name. I asked him my name and he said he would find out. He tried to scare me off but I didn't blink an eye. Told him that he and I had spoke several times in the past and that I knew his orthodontist neighbor. Well, I also found out from another neighbor that the lady who I supposedly scared just by fishing in the stream doesn't even want her neighbors wading or floating in the stream behind her house. The stream biologist, field agent and county road dept, all said I accessed the stream legally and parked legally and that the road still belongs to the county. I was told to get permission from land owners - of which I technically already had done. Mr.Hash said he had no issue with me until his lady neighbor friend had issues and they were scared because of issues at the bridge and the orthodontist got busted for a meth lab?? and a new bridge was coming through their neighborhood. After speaking with him on the phone and stopping by and speaking with neighbors, I'm cool - except for that woman who won't come to the door and is pissed off that her neighbors don't have a problem with me much less even spoke with me. I still feel Mr.Hash doesn't want me there and his neighbor has begged him to call the cops on me. Being as there are empty lots and the orthodontist home is still empty, I don't feel like asking permission to fish there - because from my experience, once a golf course and gated communities come in (and with lousy AR stream laws) they don't want anyone there because we don't belong to the upper crust. So, I will fish better waters to the north and spend my $$ in another state.

In the past, I have had issues in which I have had to make phone calls to the county road dept., and various branches of law enforcement and AGFC. You can access the stream from the bridge BUT if the stream is not deemed navigable by Arkansas law, you need permission and are technically trespassing even if on a stretch of rural stream. Even though the Illinois River is floatable, it is not navigable. You can be on the water and be legal but once you step foot in that stream, you are trespassing. AGFC will ticket if necessary. They will side with the property owners first. There are not any streams in NWA that are considered navigable. Blessings Golf Course has said to stay off of it. I called and pitched a fit because I had been fishing there for ages. In all honesty, I am love the fact that these streams are not open to the public because the streams are not respected - check out the AGFC on Chambers Rd. A portion of the Illinois, White, Richland and below the dam are legal access. You can access the Illinois but once you are out and not in the National Forest - not counting the farmland - you are trespassing. Not even all of the Kings River is navigable. You can float any stream because the landowners don't own the water and you can catch the fish because they don't own those either. If someone owns one side of the stream, they own to the middle of it. If both sides are owned then the they own the whole stream bed. I have had to make calls and knock on a few doors and sometimes it's worth it. Sometimes, you find out that a property owner will say NO and the others will say yes and you end up wading to the other side of the stream.

What is the best place to wade nearby that area? Thanks for the info, guys.

We are staying across from Kyles Landing. I've floated and fished the river - about 13 years ago. Can't remember where I waded last time. Fishing was lousy - 4 people 3 bass. I'm gonna save floating for fun and wading for fishing. Is Kyles Landing a decent spot to at least begin and have an opportunity to wade or walk the bank? I have 2.5 days with the extended family and planned acitivities which will probably give me 4 hours of fishing time.

So . . . streamers . . . anyone tossing streamers right now or mostly throwing the meat at them right now? Looking to get back in the trout game at Beaver. Love streamers. Chasing smallies too long now. Haven't been to Beaver tailwaters since 03 or 04.

Thanks. Love the Elk.

Nothing huge this year but caught some nice ones. On track for most in a year. Fishing deep. Weighted fly. Been tough. Few of my best places filled with gravel or brush and cover washed away.

He was careless. It seems to me he was ready for a fight. He shoulda let them go on. Defending his property?? From pee.

http://www.dnr.mo.gov/pubs/WR51.pdf A Summary of Missouri Water Laws.

I know this has been posted a few times. But what I see in it is the definition of stream law simplified in the initial definition. I've seen this a few other places including a report from MDC I cannot locate. I have bookmarked many reports and pages of missouri stream law. Page 1 says it all. . http://liv2flyfish.com/HTMLobj-430/PublicRightsInMissouri001.pdf