DLM84

I'm over by Stockton lake and Nevada city.

Great! Thanks! That is great news. We got a fire pit in back yard and old grill. Now I have a source for wood other than running around town after a storm just to ask if I can clean up there broken old tree's

How much was the permit if you don't mind me asking? So I'm understanding that for camp fires any thing that is all ready down is fair game?

I know I have seen people running little fires "to keep the Skeeter's away" before and they weren't any where near a camp ground. So where they get the wood? Is that legal?

So I have been down to schell Osage conservation area recently. They have been cutting the brush away from the power lines down there and it got me wondering. Can I use that wood in the camping area's or for my fire pit at home? Do they allow that? Any one know any thing?

Well it says error improper response on my phone. Can you fix.

I wait until I can convince the boat "Captain" to move on. If on land we stake out the best spot we can find and sit on it until I got to go home.

Cool, Just what I thought. No current=No Cats. I don't know where they go but when the current stops mov'in they up and disappear. You would figure they would need to feed every now and again here and there. P.S. where you find 'in shad? we looked at all the usual hot spots and could find nothing. Still noth'in.

No not really. Just a bunch of guys from Dad's work decided to get together for a little Cat Fish'in "Tourney" LOL P.S. Couldn't have been a nicer day for the weather.

Hey guys, My Dad decided it was time to pull out the boat and knock off the dust the other day and go fishin down on the Sac river for catfish this last weekened. Man did we get skunked. We went out at dawn and intended to stay out all day fishin but we got not one nibble on any thing. We had goldfish and worms and one little scared shad for bait. guess he didn't think he had any chance at all LOL. well it turned out a bunch of his work friends had decided to go and he was invited. one big fishin party. I think they had cabin fever from all this crappy weather and the long winter, ohh well. When we got back to the boat ramp some one was pulling out right after us and said yesterday(friday) was really good for cats. Ohh we all decided to go out on the Sac-Osage river. Their was no current at all and they only thing I saw getting caught is one guy was pulling out crappie, guess no body told him it was a catfishing tourney LOL, and some body had some limb/ jug lines out with some thing that couldn't even pull down the littlest bit a 1 litter jug. It just flipped up and not even the cap would go under water. some little about 1 foot long gar were in there working some thing. Any body know what is up? we think we need some current then it will be better, maybe.

It looks torn to me. any pictures with the gill cover "open"???

good report, I have friends and family that are just about to go up there for a vacation fishing trip!!! I will forward this to them. THANKS!!!

You know there are people out on the water that don't give a frack and just toss crap into the river. But try and tell a farmer that stuff he is spraying on his fields is going down the drain and into the streams and you will get laughed at. try and show him how this is culminating into that "Dead Zone" and he will recommend you to the nearest insane asylum. We just got to get the word out better. This sort of stuff needs to be on the evening local news every time it comes out till people realize our impact on the planet as a society.

http://www.treehugger.com/corporate-responsibility/dead-zone-size-new-jersey-bloom-gulf-mexico.html so fellas still think dumping in our streams is not going to hurt any thing?

Well I am just saying their are a lot of guys that don't know what they really need to do the job aka "Good Enough" and so they talk them selves into a big block v8 and all the bells and whistles. I said I am not looking for all the bells and whistles nor do I want a 15-20 MPG rig either. I just noticed every one who said "Don't go get a 4 banger" was either hauling a small yacht or in the Branson area (do they even have flat spots down there? Kidding) so they could really be actually needing it. I can under stand that but their are this other guys who are "you don't want a four banger cause you might want a bigger boat latter and by the time you get that you will need a v8 and then you will want the big block for good measure and by the time you do that you probably ought to get the 4x4 tooo, hhehehe" These are the folks I went "WTF" at. I told you I am looking at 10-12' john boats, 500 lbs max rated capacity. Nothing more. Not 20' mini yatchs so you see I don't need a top of the line heavy duty towing rig. I started this thread to figure out what exactly I actually needed to do the job, not get talked into the biggest gas guzzler on the road.

Well guys I got to talk to a Friend of mine that lives on a small farm bordering the Sack river over by schel city way. He said they were using I-4's to pull their river boats with. He thinks 2 wheel drive will work fine on those little boats as long as it has a auto locking differential on it. The boat I am talking about are 10' maybe 12' little john boats, Rated max capacity is some where around 500 lbs. Also the other boats I was looking at were in the same range as these boats. My current "boat" is a old used 2 man canoe but it really sucks. Its probably gonna get the boot as soon as some one in the family has a garage sale, instead I think I will get a Angler style kayak for regular pond fishing stuff. I think it will work well over in Schel Osage wild life reserve on those ponds of theirs. As for all this "by the time this" and "by the time that" what do you guys think you are doing? I said I wanted to save gas because this would be a Daily Driver, can't get a second car. So get that out of your heads. Also I don't need 3k lbs towing for a boat that will float 500 lbs at most. The ramps at these conservation areas are not steep at all. Some of the ones at stockton are to shallow I think. People's tail pipes end up getting stuck in the water before they get the boat half floated some times. Its that way on the one closest to Stockton City. You need big tall 18 wheeler style tail pipes over there.

Thanks, It feels ice cold out there even though we had some days in the 80's but now its almost completely in the 60's for the high.

I am NOT looking for a brand new vehicle, I buy used only and I am not stoked about the v6 fuel mileage. Most seem to be the same as the little v8's which still ain't goood.

Well maybe I will just stick with a little car then. I wonder if you could get me the HP/TQ numbers that 1.9 TDI will put out? I just want to know how it compares to the little I4's I have been driving. Mine does 200 hp 185 FT Torque.

North American Fisherman Mag. puts stuff in my inbox every once in a while and today I open my inbox and low and behold what I found: Rapala Wall Papers Bass Art Other Lures Ranger stuff I thought I would share with you all. Ooohh, Just a sample: Thats all for now. See you on The Lake...

So you put it on the out side? HHhmmm I wonder if this would save some gas or at least make it easier to row?