catman70 Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 Trout are an invasive species stocked in these waters by the Missouri Department of Conservation (not Preservation) for anglers to have the opportunity to enjoy the sport. The historic purpose of the sport is to place meat on the table. Do I think there should be areas where folks can go to have a greater opportunity to catch larger fish? Absolutely. However, there should be no shame in keeping any fish regardless of it's size so long as it exceeds minimum length requirements. Many areas discourage the use of live bait because of increased fish fatalities. By using artificial lures or flies we can decrease the mortality rate. However, some level of mortality still exists. Therefore, I propose that the sportsman who fills his creel and stops fishing is more ethical than the Catch & Release fisherman simply because none of the fish the former kills go to waste. In fact, I think many philosophies would suggest that tormenting an animal simply for the sake of sport is inhumane and wrong on some level. I'm guilty of both, but don't proclaim myself to be of higher ethical standing than any of my fellow law-abiding sportsman. I have a problem with the logic of a blanket C&R policy because if one follows the preservationist philosophy to its end, it will lead to a trout stream where no one is allowed to fish whatsoever lest you risk tampering with the natural environment. That's why we as a people (for the most part) have adopted a philosophy of conservation - utilizing the resource with the help of science to ensure it is available for future enjoyment. There should be areas set aside with different regulations that cater to the type of sporting opportunity individuals seek - kind of like it is now. No one should judge lest they be judged (see fourth sentence, second paragraph).
jscheetz Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 I just wanna say I love you all. JS "We are living in the midst of a Creation that is mostly mysterious - that even when visible, is never fully imaginable". -Wendell Berry-
Trav Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 I love you too JS! I just ate two bottles of powerbait, I feel pumped already! "May success follow your every cast." - Trav P. Johnson
shawncat Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 I changed my mind,Trav thats got to be the post of the day.
Danoinark Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 Trout are an invasive species stocked in these waters by the Missouri Department of Conservation (not Preservation) for anglers to have the opportunity to enjoy the sport. The historic purpose of the sport is to place meat on the table. Do I think there should be areas where folks can go to have a greater opportunity to catch larger fish? Absolutely. However, there should be no shame in keeping any fish regardless of it's size so long as it exceeds minimum length requirements. Many areas discourage the use of live bait because of increased fish fatalities. By using artificial lures or flies we can decrease the mortality rate. However, some level of mortality still exists. Therefore, I propose that the sportsman who fills his creel and stops fishing is more ethical than the Catch & Release fisherman simply because none of the fish the former kills go to waste. In fact, I think many philosophies would suggest that tormenting an animal simply for the sake of sport is inhumane and wrong on some level. I'm guilty of both, but don't proclaim myself to be of higher ethical standing than any of my fellow law-abiding sportsman. I have a problem with the logic of a blanket C&R policy because if one follows the preservationist philosophy to its end, it will lead to a trout stream where no one is allowed to fish whatsoever lest you risk tampering with the natural environment. That's why we as a people (for the most part) have adopted a philosophy of conservation - utilizing the resource with the help of science to ensure it is available for future enjoyment. There should be areas set aside with different regulations that cater to the type of sporting opportunity individuals seek - kind of like it is now. No one should judge lest they be judged (see fourth sentence, second paragraph). Cool logic prevails. Nice. Dano Glass Has Class "from the laid back lane in the Arkansas Ozarks"
Trav Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 Powerbait gives you wings!!!!! "May success follow your every cast." - Trav P. Johnson
bigredbirdfan Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 With my powerbait fishing trip tomorrow sounds like I have a pretty good chance at catching a rare record elusive white Trav.
taxidermist Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 Someone told me take to green powerbait inplace of Levitra. Espcially for sunburned legs. It will not help the legs but will keep the sheets off of them. Ok we use powerbait, I am fat and I am a hillbilly. Here is how we use it. 8lb Vanish gold flourocarbon. Has to be Vanish, it is way more sensitive than anything else ont he market. 1/4 ounce bullet sinker, flourescent orange bead, the largest swivel you can find, about 18 inches of leader and only one type of hook!!! # 4 or #6 Eagle Claw Crappie hook, it has a bend in the shank. four or five Power eggs. What this hook does is rotate when the fish bite it is great for hooking trout in the dead center of the lower jaw or the upper mandible. Using this rig we seldom gut hook a trout, as in one every two or three trips. Should you gut hook a trout, pull the eggs back up the line The the hook is large enough you can run your index finger down the hook and this fixes the J in the hook right around your finger tip and you simply remove your finger with the hook on it. Seldom does the trout even bleed. I posted this over a year ago. We also throw a lot of crankbaits and have done super well on browns, they are the largest crank baits we can find. I also posted pics of those and the fish. I would like to have seen the 25lb fish molded so reproductions could be made for around this area and other areas. I do have a problem with the Rip Collins Wworld Record Brown trout mold. It is way over priced, there are other molds of browns that size out there. So not any big deal in away. But it is a shame non the less that more people cannot see that fish!!! Like the one Brown record from Taneycomo, two fish pulled from the mold, its a shame and till a even bigger waste of the fish YEa there are two very close in size both molded. But its sad to not share a record catch like that with anyone!!! Same for the R Collins fish. I did see one at the Game and Fish building and honestly its a poor casting. Not tha I could do better but I know people who can make better molds especially on a fish like that!!! Anyone have measurements on the 25lb brown?
Buzz Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 Many areas discourage the use of live bait because of increased fish fatalities. By using artificial lures or flies we can decrease the mortality rate. However, some level of mortality still exists. Therefore, I propose that the sportsman who fills his creel and stops fishing is more ethical than the Catch & Release fisherman simply because none of the fish the former kills go to waste. In fact, I think many philosophies would suggest that tormenting an animal simply for the sake of sport is inhumane and wrong on some level. I'm guilty of both, but don't proclaim myself to be of higher ethical standing than any of my fellow law-abiding sportsman. Catman has made a very good point that I had not ever considered. I trout fish mainly at Roaring River and the White Ribbon streams near my home. I have caught as many as 60 fish on an outing and have always tried my best to release these fish as carefully as possible. I am basically C & R for a couple of reasons. 1) I guess I'm too lazy to clean them. 2) I like the idea that someone else might be able to catch that same fish, whether it be 12 in. or 20 in. If on the off chance that the fish cannot be revived I will take the fish and clean it and eat it at a later date. So good point I will watch my fish better and as always play each fish no longer than need be. I have noticed that most bait fishermen do tend to keep thier limit, which is good because of the mortallity rate. Thanks for the comment Buzz If fishing was easy it would be called catching.
Guest rwolfe Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 Maybe a few icons that will help along the way......thats all........no more. Maybe these would help: http://av123forum.com/misc.php?do=getsmili...d=vB_Editor_001
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