Landowners And New Neighbors

[jdmidwest]

I did not know where to put this so here it is. This past year, lands next to some of our family farms have been bought by out of towners. Both farms have a creek that runs thru them and are a mixture of pasture land and timber. One farm has been in possession for 4 generations and the other since Wappappello lake was formed and the Corps of Eng forced them out of the original homestead. Both have been surrounded by friends and neighbors for years that respected and communicated with each other.

Early this year, 80 acres across from Dad sold on the other side of the creek. Surveyors had an issue with the property lines, early abstracts showed the land split at the creek. In the 60's when Dad bought the farm from Grandpa, they channelized and relocated the creek to its present location and created two island fields. Dad had to go to court to overturn the survey and get the land back. Then he met the new neighbors, sitting on a private bridge, 1/4 mile into a private lane, drinking a beer on their new "property". Seems like a realtor stretched the boundry of the 80 acres to include some of our land. I think the problem has been solved, at least for now. I am sure there will be issues this deer season as it was bought for "hunting land". It is all fields with only timber in the fencerows and bordered by a state road on one side. The only hunting I have known on the place is the poaching that usually occurs when the deer come out of the woods on either side of a night to feed.

The other farm has 2 new neighbors, one bought a large cattle farm on the east and the other bought a landlocked 30 acres with a cabin on the north. There had always been some access thru a rough trail and deep water crossing on our land to the cabin, no formal easement. This guy brought a dozer and a backhoe in and made him a new "highway" and is waiting now for our approval for a bridge. I spoke with the guy this weekend and asked him where he got all the gravel? Out of your gravel bar of course, 20 loads! The other had a survey done and now we have a property dispute with him also.

This bunch did all of this work without even consulting with us. No survey crews asked for permission to cross our lands. Funny thing is, neither can understand why we are concerned. Not only did the one build a road, he built side roads, turnoffs, creek parking, and graveled his own road to the cabin and stockpiled gravel on his land for the future. It all came off of our private land. Not to mention the use of a creek which he has no access to. Until this weekend they thought all they had to deal with was my disabled mother and my out of town uncle. A show of force from myself and friends and the promise of more visits may make a difference. Other legal matters will have to be taken care of also, including the theft of the gravel, instream mining without a permit, trespassing, and the forming of a legal easement.

Anybody having any problems with their neighbors?

[steve l]

Well, yes, but since I live in a suburban area near Springfield IL, and the problem is that my neighbor is a dork, that's probably not what you had in mind.

It must be very frustrating & disappointing to be going through what you are.

Please keep posting updates - curious on how this turns out.

Good luck.

[Trav]

That is very unfortunate. My nieghbors and I have thrived on being there for each other, and respecting each others property lines. I recently had a problem concerning my dog. We all used to let our pets run around together. They all got along for the most part. That was until my dog killed a couple of kittens my nieghbor had recently got for his wife.

Sad but true, but good fences make great neighbors. My dog is now contained to my little four acre property by an invisible fence when not under direct supervision. She hits the fence, and Wham! She gets bit by a tazer strapped to her neck. It has worked like a charm. My neighbor liked the system I had installed and even set his property up with an invisible fence to contain his dog as well.

Since the killing of the cats, I have been giving my neighbor tons of produce out of my garden. Kind of a peace offering. Sometimes, you just never know when you might need help from a neighbor. So, it is important to establish that respect.

Sorry to hear JD, that your neighbors buried that respect. My advice to you. Get A Lawyer. Sue thier arses!

[bclift65706]

I been down that road before I suckes when it happens to. I grew up on 160 acers and a almost land locked 40 sold on one side that had been owed by the same people way before I was around and the fence was bad and a few of our cattle would go over on ocasion and this 40 was a good cornfield 30 years ago and now ceaders and brush hads overtaken the place and the fence you cant hardly walk through it bougt for hunting and they wanted the cows to stay out so we dozed the fence and put up a new one and these people wouldent pay for anything absolutle refuesed wouldent even help help build the fence pretty sorry of them . Then to top that off they painted every other post purple and put up no tresspassing sines on a fence they wouldent even help bulid or anything and put the sines on my side of the fence I know they walked on my property to do all of this. Now my favorite thing to do is spray Plot Saver all around tree stands and food plots and hair clippings and anything else that might keep the deer off of their tree stands a week before season just to be a BIG horses A--- just like them and it is worth a few bucks for the plot saver and a hair cut every year. If anyone has any more tricks for deer repelent I would love to test them kind of like MYTH BUSTERS

[Trav]

bc

Go catch a bunch of big flatheads and nail the heads on the fence posts. If you cant catch that many cats, you can use road kill or dead carp. The rotten stenche will attract lots of those blue flies. Them flies bite like crazy. The deer will steer clear of the fence. And if your hiding out near by in a deer stand, they will smell you out and try to eat you too.

All that rotting flesh will also attract crows and buzzards. We all know that deer use those birds to alert them. If the birds freak out and fly away from a hunter, the deer will run too.

[bclift65706]

bc

Go catch a bunch of big flatheads and nail the heads on the fence posts. If you cant catch that many cats, you can use road kill or dead carp. The rotten stenche will attract lots of those blue flies. Them flies bite like crazy. The deer will steer clear of the fence. And if your hiding out near by in a deer stand, they will smell you out and try to eat you too.

I dont care if the deer stay clear of the fence I just like them to stay clear of their tree stands and food plots I do a little tresspassing on them to fix them up maby that makes me no better than them but I never thought I was better than anyone else anyway. but that is a good Idea I may start cyote hunting I see them and crowes haning all over fences around here and crowes to one of their stands is 50 yards from the fence and a few 60 deg. days in november would make a good stinch on a hunter with a north wind. IT WILL BE GREAT!!! this has been going on for 2 years now and it cost me $1500 plus time . At $100 of fun a year 13 more years I will call it even.

[jdmidwest]

Its the "whats mine is mine and whats yours is mine also attitude".