loo10 Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 I don't know if I could win against you guys or not sounds like you are on the water all the time. With the shop and the new baby I have no time to fish. "Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh........ Booo-hoooo" Come on Michael, There's no crying in fly-fishing! No time to fish? P-lease! You go so much I heard they were going to create a new outlet and name it after you. Rich Looten Springfield, Missouri "If people don't occasionally walk away from you shaking their heads, you're doing something wrong."- John Gierach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Packman Posted March 11, 2006 Members Share Posted March 11, 2006 I dont think I would be comfortable having a stranger in my boat observing my techinque. I feel that the tournament Phil puts on is safe on fish as they are catch an release, all the fish I have ever caught have been released in good health after weigh-in. Maybey they should have a wader tournament, all the waders can wade by and have phil check their waders. lol.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Phil Lilley Posted March 11, 2006 Root Admin Share Posted March 11, 2006 I found this buried in my archives. I did hold a couple of 'One-Fly' contests in the fall and followed Option B somewhat. I can't find the exact rules I used- must have deleted it. Option B follows the Jackson Hole One Fly rules http://www.jhonefly.com/ One fly contest, Lake Taneycomo Tailwater See bottom of page for a different format. Date- ??????? Hours- 8 am - 4 pm Entry - $10-$25 per angler. Awards- Plaques for 1st thru 5th place plus traveling trophy for first, split cash pot. Pre-contest meeting, rules and questions - 7 am Partner drawing and coin flip - 7:15 am Dispurse - 7:30 am Start fishing (sound of horn) - 8:00 am First session ends and second session begins (sound of horn) - 11:55 am End of contest (sound of horn) 4 pm. Awards and fellowship - 4:30 - dark. Individual contest. No guides will be allowed to compete. No one can help any competitors during the hours of the contest. Wading only, no commuting to other areas of the lake by any kind of vehichle, foot only. Anglers will score points for each trout landed and measured. Total points deturmon a winner. Equipment Contestants will furnish their own fly fishing equipment. A contestant may have at his disposal one extra fly rod, reel and line. Floating line only; no sink tip or monofilament (amnesia). Only catch-n-release bagged nets will be allowed- no mono-filament nets allowed. They do too much damage to trout. Flies Any conventional fly pattern (dry, wet, nymph, streamer, etc.) may be used as long as it is no larger than size #8 and is 3X or shorter in length. No lead-headed jigs or molded head jigs, Clouser Minnows, or flies with dumbell lead eyes are allowed. All flies must be approved by the judge 30 minutes before the contest starts. Repairs to the fly can only be done by adhesives, no wrapping or tying allowed. If a fly is broken off the tippet but is retrieved, it can be retied. Broken hooks can be resharpened. Single flies only, no fly indicators allowed. Fishing Procedure Anglers will draw for "partners", 2-man teams who will fish together the entire contest. This drawing will be held at the 7 am meeting. These 2 anglers must stay close enough together so as to measure and judge each other for the entire contest. In the morning, we will give contestants to get to their spots after the meeting. Fishing begins at the sound of the air horn (8 am). Another horn will sound at the end of the first session (11:55 am). It will end at the sound of the air horn at exactly 4 p.m.. Session - the angler who wins a coin flip between the 2-man team will have control where the team will fish during the first session. No exceptions to this rule unless both are in total agreement (if they want to trade sessions). The other angler will have control of the afternoon session. Breaks- if someone has to leave the river for any reason, the angler left must go fish next to another team and let one of those contestants judge/measure their catch until the team member returns. Daily scoring ends for any contestant when his official fly becomes irretrievably lost. That person must stay with his partner, and can continue to fish, but his catch will not score in the contest. If both partners lose their official flies, they should come to the pavilion immediately and turn in their scores. Again, they can return to fishing if they desire. Off Limits The hatchery outlets are off limits to fishing. Anglers cannot place their fly within 50 feet of the outflow of water from any of the 5 outlets (see map). Sakes with red flags will mark 50 feet from each outlet, placed on the bank. Contestant's partners will keep each other honest. Scoring Each trout is worth one (2) points, no matter what the size. Each contestant is allowed 8 bonus scores (8 trout) for the entire day. Once a trout is caught, measured and recorded as a bonus trout, that score cannot be changed. Once 8 bonus scores are recorded, no more trout can be recorded as bonus trout. Bonus trout scores are as follows: Less than 12" - 2 points 12" - 2 points + 10 points 13" - 2 points + 20 points 14" - 2 points + 30 points 15" - 2 points + 40 points 16" - 2 points + 60 points 17" - 2 points + 80 points 18" - 2 points + 100 points 19" - 2 points + 125 points 20" - 2 points + 150 points 21" - 2 points + 175 points 22" - 2 points + 200 points Add 50 points per inch for trout over 22 inches, up to 29 inches Other bonus points if total number of trout landed is between: 30 - 39 Add 100 bonus points per inch 40 - 49 Add 1,000,000 bonus points per inch 50 + Add 10,000,000 bonus points per inch 25 points will be awarded to an angler who still has his official fly at the end of the contest. A penalty will be assessed for any fish killed. Each of these fish will be measured and the scored value of that trout will be subtracted from the angler's score. That trout will not be counted against the daily limit of eight bonus trout. Measuring a trout- make the greatest effort at measure all trout without bring it out of the water or handling it. Do not let the trout lay out on gravel at any time. Use a catch-n-release bagged net and measure the trout in the net when possible. A measuring stick will be provided to help measure each trout. The partner in control will carry the stick and the other angler will carry the score tablet and record the scores. Official procedure for measuring-- Pinch the tail and close the mouth. Swing the tail if necessary. Round up the length of any trout measured to the next digit. Example: if a trout measure 14.1 inch, round up to 15 inches and record. Dinner served that evening - $10 per person. Alternative Format B, shortened, simplified version. One fly contest, Lake Taneycomo Tailwater Date- ??????? Hours- 8 am - noon Entry - $10-$25 per angler. Awards- Plaques for 1st thru 5th place plus traveling trophy for first, split cash pot. Pre-contest meeting, rules and questions - 7 am Partner drawing and coin flip - 7:15 am Dispurse - 7:30 am Start fishing (sound of horn) - 8:00 am End fishing at noon. Individual contest Same Equipment Same Flies Same Fishing Procedure Anglers will draw for "partners", 2-man teams who will fish together the entire contest. This drawing will be held at the 7 am meeting. These 2 anglers must stay close enough together so as to measure and judge each other for the entire contest. In the morning, we will give contestants to get to their spots after the meeting. Fishing begins at the sound of the air horn (8 am). Another horn will sound at the end. Session - the angler who wins a coin flip between the 2-man team will have control where the team will fish during the first session. No exceptions to this rule unless both are in total agreement (if they want to trade sessions). The other angler will have control of the afternoon session. Breaks- if someone has to leave the river for any reason, the angler left must go fish next to another team and let one of those contestants judge/measure their catch until the team member returns. Daily scoring ends for any contestant when his official fly becomes irretrievably lost. That person must stay with his partner, and can continue to fish, but his catch will not score in the contest. If both partners lose their official flies, they should come to the pavilion immediately and turn in their scores. Again, they can return to fishing if they desire. Off Limits Same Scoring Each contestant will be allowed to count 4 trout to score during this time. Once the four trout are scored, the contest is over for that angler. Patners measure, judge and record the length of each others trout. Scoring is as follows: Less than 11" - 2 points 12" - 10 points 13" - 20 points 14" - 30 points 15" - 40 points 16" - 60 points 17" - 80 points 18" - 105 points 19" - 130 points 20" - 160 points 21" - 195 points 22" - 235 points 23" - 280 points 24" - 330 points 25" - 385 points 26" - 445 points 27" - 520 points 28" - 590 points Add 100 points to each inch after 28". 25 points will be awarded to an angler who still has his official fly at the end of the contest. A penalty will be assessed for any fish killed. Each of these fish will be measured and the scored value of that trout will be subtracted from the angler's score. That trout will not be counted against the daily limit of eight bonus trout. Measuring a trout- make the greatest effort at measure all trout without bring it out of the water or handling it. Do not let the trout lay out on gravel at any time. Use a catch-n-release bagged net and measure the trout in the net when possible. A measuring stick will be provided to help measure each trout. The partner in control will carry the stick and the other angler will carry the score tablet and record the scores. Official procedure for measuring-- Pinch the tail and close the mouth. Swing the tail if necessary. Round up the length of any trout measured to the next digit. Example: if a trout measure 14.1 inch, round up to 15 inches and record. Dinner - same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flyfishBDS Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 Phil just don't do it on October 29th That is going to be the Tenth Beaver Dam Store One Fly contest date. And we are planning a biggie, perhaps some fun and entertainment post contest. We have already had a commitment of a Sage Rod, and a Ross Reel. Both could be new models and very desirable very cool but Im sworn to secrecy. We usually run about 70-90 people, lots of door prizes, accomodation gear etc etc. Some fun rules changes to end the woolly bugger egg patern domination. Its all catch and release and we have a bunch of regulars some who have fished all 10. Its a great way to meet new folks and have some fun Our plans include a lot more entertainment post event, and a whole lot of fun. The One Fly rules are simple: · Only One fly may be used during the contest. Lose the fly to a tree or a trout and your contest fishing is done. We encourage people to keep fishing and have fun. · Flies only - Longest trout wins – Catch and Release all fish. · Participants will fish in pairs in order to verify fish length measurements · Partners will be drawn 30 minutes before start time. · You must be present at drawing to enter. (Be there 6.30 am) · Arkansas Fishing license and trout permit required. · Earliest entry decides tie – coin toss for second tie. · You and partner must return to store by 12-noon or forfeit first prize. Cheers Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micheal Kyle Posted March 12, 2006 Author Share Posted March 12, 2006 This was not Phils idea this was mine if you would like to help I could sure use the input. I'm pretty sure that we will have one late in the summer or early fall. We are also having our 2nd Spring Fling on April 22 all day, Lots of door prizes, 1 Sage Rod, 1 Scott rod a Lamson reel Merchandice from Fish Pond and Rio. Plus Davy Wotton will be here for the event. He will be tying his tradtional wet flies and talking about how to fish them. Maybe you can make it, the day will be loaded with fun. Oh yea just like last year everyone will be able to cast every rod that is in the shop in the casting pond that will be in the parking lot. Michael To Know People Is To Know Thier Ways! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Phil Lilley Posted March 12, 2006 Root Admin Share Posted March 12, 2006 It's all yours Michael. Good luck on your event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micheal Kyle Posted March 13, 2006 Author Share Posted March 13, 2006 Phil, Good luck with the White Bass seminar, I think that is a great idea. I would be there but it is on Tuesday I'm the only one in shop on those days. I know that this does not pertain to this subject but I went to Galena today did not fish but very shallow, should make White bass this year very interesting. Good thing I bought a boat. I think that if we do not get any rain that the Bridge Port ramp will be very busy. To Know People Is To Know Thier Ways! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kicknbass Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Why Taneycomo though ? Why not a Wednesday tournament at Roaring River - where the impact on the fish would be negated by the amount of catch and kill anglers ? Because no matter how hard anybody will try, there will be a mortality rate from this event. Perhaps I just wish to protect my home waters. Its a catch and release format. How does measuring and recording the fish effect the mortality any more than catch and release for fun? If I understand the format, you catch and release immediately at the location caught after measuring and recording the fish. This has to have the least impact on the fish of all tournament styles. I wish the BASS boys would us this format, it would be better for the sport. (not nearly as exciting at weight-in though) " Too many hobbies to work" - "Must work to eat and play" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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