17000 Cfs Started At 2:00

[jlpatton1]

Well I just got word they opened up enough spillway and generators for 17000 CFS starting at 2. We are told this morning that this will continue untill Table Rock reaches pool 917, or Bull Shoals would go over 684 and they would stop.

I'm told part of the reason for having to run it this way, has to do with dissolved oxygen. Due to the low ppm of the oxygen in the generation water, they've only been able to generate four turbines at only 60%. Too much low oxygen water into the lake and we know what happens., so spillway water is oxygenated, You can go to the Corps website, Little Rock Dist and see all the oxgen reports and levels and what ability they have to run.

So that's all I know...... Have a safe day on the lake

Well, we got word this afternoon that once Table Rock hits the 920 Mark (at time of this post it's 919.20) The Corps of Engineers will open 5 spillway gates, in addtion to 4 generators to give us a flow of 20,000 CFS. We really thought we had handled Gustav pretty well, but who are we to think.

This will mean a significant flow increase for several days. We are told that when Table Rock hits 920 again, the spillways will be closed. One might ask why after a week of running NO water, would we do this . I say Write Your Congressman, Tell your Representative, Speak to your Govenor or whomever will listen, but it's time we "re-visit" how we manage water on the White River System.

Anyway, if you are fishing this weekend, you will have to look somewhere out of the flow, in March that meant creeks and behind structures like buildings and marinas etc. The one positive thing is if we get a bunch of shad...who knows what we might catch.

Will update tomorrow as soon as something new comes out.

BE SAFE

[DoveTail]

That will make some interesting fishing this fall if it ever goes down. No telling what you may catch!

[mosouthpaw]

remember they have to manage beaver lake as well. that lake we never brought down like TR was. If NW arkansas got the rain TR got they might have to emergency dump that lake, and they really cant dump into a near full lake. @ 920 you have 11 ft of water left until top of flood pool, combined with ongoing incoming flows and a dump of beaver you enter water management. 4 inches of rain rose the lake 3-4 feet and we havent gotten all of the drainage to the lake yet.

Remember the purpose of the lakes are to generate power and manage flood waters.

I just looked at beaver. They are 2.8 feet from going over the top. They got hammered with 5-6 inches. So id expect them to do a fast dump of beaver to ensure they can control that lake.

[Guest kevinkirk]

I have been watching the river gauges and they were all up this morn but had peaked it appeared, upstream of Table Rock. So maybe they will be okay. Does this mean houses will be flooded again?

[Leonard]

BRING IT ON!!!

I guess I'll just have to catch a few more smallies and walleyes....

Leonard

[Trav]

Anyway you look at it, the lower Taney will get the crappy deal. This crap does nothing but kill the lower lake. The fish down here just dont move behind structure, they get washed out or they move upstream. Everytime it happens, its like starting all over again. The fish that move upstream tend to stay there. Hurting the fishing in the lower.

I will be glad when this cycle passes. This whole year has been a waste of time due to the weather. I am almost welcoming winter. And I despise cold weather. I prefer 90 degrees and high humidity.

70 percent of my big brownies come between september and march. I can bet it will be at least 3 years before I start catching the 40 fish over 5 pounds in a year that I am accustomed to.

I bitch, but I can't complain a whole bunch. Those people that own land and docks on bull shoals deal with this crap alot more than most of us.

It just irritates me so much because my dock is on the channel side of a river system, below bull creek, and I have to push logs, trash, whole trees sometimes, not to mention all the chunks of docks that fail under the pressure of this type of flow. I realize this is a funky year, but darn! Everytime I walk down to my dock it is backed up with debris.

I have lived here for 3 decades. There has always been the debris to a certain extent, but this year it has been like a never ending gauntlet. Normally it is not this bad.

I am as close to an expert as you will get on the lower. When I say the fishing is bad you know it is true. I am almost to the point that I will pull my boat out of the water and wait and see what next year will bring. It is obvious that this winter the fishing for browns is almost gone. I will try, but my gut tells me the fishery is busted by tall water. Since I don't fish the waters above Branson, this area might as well be dead.

I have vented my opinion. When it comes to the lower I am never wrong. I hope my fantasy football team will play out better than this year of fishing has.

With that said, Good luck boys.

[Amish Bill]

Trav:

I am soooooo sorry the corp. didn't get word about the experts dock situation.

[laker67]

Hey Trav,

Just motor on up to the upper end. We've got some fish , we'll make room for you. I know it's not your favorite spot, but the welcome mat is out.

[mosouthpaw]

we might see a 100 inch rain year, and i think we average 40 inches a year..... its never good when they open any spillway... luckily i dont think the browns have moved into the upper upper section yet.

The only bad thing is TR never got to the top of power pool, I sure hope we see 701 ft and not this 708-9 crap 24/7 until december...

[Guest kevinkirk]

Every cloud has a silver lining I guess. Just think what woulda happened if the dam had not been there. And, I think next year will be phenomenal due to the high water and all the food in there now.