bigredbirdfan Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 Check out the lovely story below of Barrack Hussein Obama mudding the waters of Iraqi troop withdrawl so he could take the credit after the election. http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008/posto...awal_129150.htm
jdmidwest Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 Simmer down, he is here to save us all! Just roll with the flow. Just Words, Just Speaches...... "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
Thom Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 If you guys are going to give sources at least check them out. This guy is a crackpot. Even O'riley roasted him Amir Taheri is an Iranian-born journalist and author based in Europe. His writings focus on the Middle East affairs and topics related to Islamist terrorism. Taheri's public speaking engagements are arranged by Benador Associates, a public relations firm with a predominantly neoconservative clientele. [1][2][3][4] Critics have questioned Taheri's journalistic integrity, alleging that Taheri's writings contain misrepresentations.[5] Let's try some facts for a change not just allegations. Thom Harvengt
bigredbirdfan Posted September 16, 2008 Author Posted September 16, 2008 So why doesn't he sue the NY Post then for libel?
jdmidwest Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 Let's try some facts for a change not just allegations. By the way, what are some of the reasons we should vote for Obama? I have been trying to see the other side but nobody seems to let me in on it. Just trying to learn more about him. How does he stand on gun rights? How about Ecology? How about Freedom? All I have seen is inexperience and Socialism. "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
Thom Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 who said vote for him. there you go inserting something into what you read. I am considering voting for McCain as soon as he tell me which of the two positions he is finally going to take on drilling in AK, Immigartion, raising taxes, abortion,supporting Bushes policies. He has been on three sides of all of them. Check what the swift boaters and the Party said about him in the primaries in 2004. Either the NRP has flip flopped or he has. or both? Thom Harvengt
soggyfeet Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 Thom, Maybe you or Chief or some other Obama supporter could help us all out here. I know Chief said he wasn't getting involved anymore so thats fine if he wish's. Instead of everone bashing the others canidate like a bunch of kids on the playground sayin gmy dad is better than you dad. I would like for anyone to provide statements from Obama or McCain saying what stance he takes on all of these Thom mentioned above. Hopefully someone could do the same for Biden and Palin as well. I dont want statements that are edited but in full text with questions and links to page. If a canidate changes his/her stance on something try and find both statements and why they change. There is nothing wrong with flip-floping if some reason you turn it down and that reason changes to make it better or work or vice versa. I would like to know the reason they voted the way they did. Personally I'm not voteing for McCain for him but for the moral values of the Republican party. I enjoy hunting and fishing and don't need someone in Washington to tell me what gun I can use and what gun I can't. Just wait, as sensitive as people are about the ethical issues trout fishing it's just a matter of time before the Democrates tell you what color of bugger to use between what times then you have to switch to a san wan set to a certian depth under a clear indicator. It just seems to me that the Dems only want to restrict the people who are lawabideing that make good decisions but, what to let the people who make poor decisions and break laws off the hook and giv ethem better accomidations than me if they do go to jail. I have my other issues with them as well but this is a fishing hunting site and will keep them to myself for now. Brian
jdmidwest Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 There you go, like others on here, when I ask a question about Obama, it is a personal attack. I am just trying to get to the truth about the guy and nobody seems to provide the answer. I really don't take offense when someone knocks McCain or the Republican party. I have always had problems with both of them. I really wanted to see Huckabee and his strong moral character in the office. McCain is like you said, but I feel he is the lesser of 2 evils. Palin is fresh blood and after 4 years we may have a new start and someone to really stand behind in 2012. She is a conservative with excellent credentials. "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
Thom Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 Here is an interesting statement from the General gates as he is leaving his post. It is almost identical to what Obama said: This is a part of Petraius' statements in the formal statement when leaving Iraq: Petraeus leaves behind a heavy dose of caution, reflected in his recommendation to President Bush that he maintain 15 combat brigades in Iraq through the end of the year instead of pulling out one or two, as many had expected. Who said I am an Obama supporter. I just am reading the facts and listening to decide which of the two democrats running for the presidency I will vote for. McCain or Obama. I have issues that I disagree with on both. I might remind you that the Moral McCain has not been on the right side of the issues until lately. Remember that the so called liberal supreme court has 7 of the 9 justices appointed by a sitting Republician president. Roe vs Wade fiasco was decided by that court and could never have happened without it. Thom Harvengt
Guest kevinkirk Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 I heard that Obama went from his meeting with the Saudis, then to Iraq then on to Bethlehem, HIS BIRTHPLACE. I cannot believe how ppl are enamored by a man who wants to run this country with 17 months of experience. GOOD LORD PPL> THINK HERE> Who do YOU think the terrorist fear the most? A man who knows about war and its terrors or a lawyer who wants to talk talk talk talk. Clinton paid off the Koreans with YOUR money and got credit for solving that crisis. Look where that got us. THINK> McCain may not be the best choice of all time but who is? Obama says, I WILL RAISE TAXES....dont youbelieve that? And if we have to drill for oil in AK, so be it. If youwant jobs and cars and boats you have to have oil and gas. If you want tourists, you have to have oil etc. THINK HERE> we are at an end with the Saudis. Either we go over there and take the oil fields by force or we go get it where it is. ITs just called LIFE. Not fair, scary, sure. But ppl are more important than land or animals. Just the way it is. If you dont think that, they re-evaluate YOUR life and YOUR impact on Branson area? How much are you impacting that earth? We are all guilty just we dont like to fact it. Did you see Al Gore just got a 100 fooot houseboat? What a hypocrite, telling you and I to conserve? Good lord. I give up
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