soggyfeet Posted October 14, 2008 Posted October 14, 2008 If you belive that Bush started this war by himself you might want to think about that again. If I remember right there was a vote for the war after info was recovered stateing the dangers of Iraq. Dems and Reps both voted for it. Now I suppose that you will say Bush lied, if so where is the empeachment hearings? I know the Dems are acheing to impeach him(they would try if they thought he was takeing too many breaths) As for lieing under oath I know that criminals do it (oh wait no one in prison is guilty right) to try and save their butts. So why would Clinton lie under oath. You say Bill isnt the only one to lie about sex, probally not. But how many have lied about it under oath stareing at the country he is supposed to be running? That man (if you can call him that) sat there and lied to your face and yet people still defend him, I dont undertand. If we find out that Bush has made up some lies then he sould be delt with as well. The war was started because intel said their was a huge risk in Iraq. Saddam wanted us to belive he had nukes. If you want to blame anyone for the war In Iraq blame Saddam. Not Bush if it was his fault he would have been out of office by now and we still wouldnt be over there. Brian
soggyfeet Posted October 14, 2008 Posted October 14, 2008 And by the way location has a lot to do with morality. There are places and times for things and that wasnt one of them. Brian
Chief Grey Bear Posted October 14, 2008 Author Posted October 14, 2008 You are right, Bush did not start the war by himself, he ain't smart enough. Cheney was pulling the strings, just as he is today. I shouldn't go so far and say that he out right lied but, as Colin Powell basically stated, the evidence was rigged and that evidence from other sources was dismissed and not added to what Bush was saying because did not prop up his position. I guess to answer your question about lying under oath, I would first need to know how many people have gone to court for having consensual sex. Morality not included. I like the fact that, as you state, as long as it is done in the correct place, the cloak of morality can be shed. To bad Bill didn't go back to her place, that in your book would have been ok. Chief Grey Bear Living is dangerous to your health Owner Ozark Fishing Expeditions Co-Owner, Chief Executive Product Development Team Jerm Werm Executive Pro Staff Team Agnew Executive Pro Staff Paul Dallas Productions Executive Pro Staff Team Heddon, River Division Chief Primary Consultant Missouri Smallmouth Alliance Executive Vice President Ronnie Moore Outdoors
trout fanatic Posted October 14, 2008 Posted October 14, 2008 I expected Clinton to lie about it (I wasn't disappointed either). Who wouldn't under the circumstances? It doesn't erase from the public record the fact that he is a bald face liar and, considering his position (at the time) makes him a very small man. sadly, I have come to expect nothing less from Democratic leadership (can you say Pelosi/Reid). Unfortunately, Obama seems to be even left of them. All this talk about how is a saviour and he will rescue to world makes me want to puke. What has he ever done in Illinois? Look at the economy of that state (with an unemployment rate of 7.3 % it seems like it would be easier to clean up there first right? I mean he is in a position that he could help right? So if he can't help in Ill, how is he going to clean up the entire country? Nothing more than political gas-if we could bottle it we could run our cars off of it for eternity. Promises are made by both parties that cannot and will not be kept and we want some of that money so badly that we vote for the one that promises the most. The future does not bode well
Chief Grey Bear Posted October 14, 2008 Author Posted October 14, 2008 All this talk about how is a saviour and he will rescue to world makes me want to puke. If you will stop listening to Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck, and start thinking for yourself, you will loose that nauseating feeling that you have. There are the only ones that are pushing that agenda. Them and the fabulous guest that they have to promote their interest. And as an added bonus, you will start seeing things as they are, not as those individuals want you to believe. I heard on Limbaugh(yeah I listen on occasion but, am able to think for myself and therefore don't get sucked into his rhetoric) just today that, according to Limbaugh as it came straight from his blow hole, it is worse to have consenting sex between two people, one of whom is married to someone else, than it is to solicit homosexual sex from under aged interns. Not my words or thoughts, but your mentor's. Chief Grey Bear Living is dangerous to your health Owner Ozark Fishing Expeditions Co-Owner, Chief Executive Product Development Team Jerm Werm Executive Pro Staff Team Agnew Executive Pro Staff Paul Dallas Productions Executive Pro Staff Team Heddon, River Division Chief Primary Consultant Missouri Smallmouth Alliance Executive Vice President Ronnie Moore Outdoors
soggyfeet Posted October 15, 2008 Posted October 15, 2008 "He paid $121,000 to his mistress in hush money. He sent her off to work for a firm he had relationships to. The firm has since canned him and dissociated himself with him. This is far worse than what Foley ever did. But see, Foley was sending these little text messages in Washington" This was the quote on Rush I coipied and pasted it from his site. First time I actually been there. Belive it or not some poeple can think for themselves I dont need Rush to tell me anything. He never said consenting sex was worse than what Foley did. You always talk about the spining round and round we go. Brian
trout fanatic Posted October 15, 2008 Posted October 15, 2008 Sorry to disappoint you chief but I don't watch or listen to limbaugh and don't even know the others that you speak of. I made up my mind a long time ago (just like you did) sooooooo I think I'll go puke now. Have a nice day.
trout fanatic Posted October 15, 2008 Posted October 15, 2008 Guess I have to correct my previous post because after I posted it I remember I watched the Hannity and Combs program one time and couldn't stand it. Between the repub guests screamin and the dem guests whinin I never understood a word of any of the arguments. Oh and by the way Louis Farakahn Jr calls Obama "the Messiah", is that far enough to the right for you?
Chief Grey Bear Posted October 15, 2008 Author Posted October 15, 2008 "He paid $121,000 to his mistress in hush money. He sent her off to work for a firm he had relationships to. The firm has since canned him and dissociated himself with him. This is far worse than what Foley ever did. But see, Foley was sending these little text messages in Washington" This was the quote on Rush I coipied and pasted it from his site. First time I actually been there. Belive it or not some poeple can think for themselves I dont need Rush to tell me anything. He never said consenting sex was worse than what Foley did. You always talk about the spining round and round we go. Are you freaking serious? What do you think a mistress is and does? Last I new that is what they called a woman that was having relations, usually fornication was involved, with a man that was married to a different woman. And you are saying that in the above quote you have from Rush, that he did not say that having that type of relationship is WORSE than trying to have homosexual relations with boys under the age of 18? Chief Grey Bear Living is dangerous to your health Owner Ozark Fishing Expeditions Co-Owner, Chief Executive Product Development Team Jerm Werm Executive Pro Staff Team Agnew Executive Pro Staff Paul Dallas Productions Executive Pro Staff Team Heddon, River Division Chief Primary Consultant Missouri Smallmouth Alliance Executive Vice President Ronnie Moore Outdoors
Chief Grey Bear Posted October 15, 2008 Author Posted October 15, 2008 "He paid $121,000 to his mistress in hush money. He sent her off to work for a firm he had relationships to. The firm has since canned him and dissociated himself with him. This is far worse than what Foley ever did. But see, Foley was sending these little text messages in Washington" This was the quote on Rush I coipied and pasted it from his site. First time I actually been there. Belive it or not some poeple can think for themselves I dont need Rush to tell me anything. He never said consenting sex was worse than what Foley did. You always talk about the spining round and round we go. Are you freaking serious? What do you think a mistress is and does? Last I knew that is what they called a woman that was having relations, usually fornication was involved, with a man that was married to a different woman. And you are saying that in the above quote you have from Rush, that he did not say that having that type of relationship is WORSE than trying to have homosexual relations with boys under the age of 18? Chief Grey Bear Living is dangerous to your health Owner Ozark Fishing Expeditions Co-Owner, Chief Executive Product Development Team Jerm Werm Executive Pro Staff Team Agnew Executive Pro Staff Paul Dallas Productions Executive Pro Staff Team Heddon, River Division Chief Primary Consultant Missouri Smallmouth Alliance Executive Vice President Ronnie Moore Outdoors
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