jdmidwest Posted March 16, 2009 Posted March 16, 2009 This is so good, I had to pass it along. I hope it does not violate "NO POLITICS" policy. I know a few dyed in the wool Ron Paul supporters that are the most passive persons, far from domestic "terrorists". I never have been a big fan of "sticker people" that advertise on their vehicles either. Mo. report on militias, terrorists draws criticism Sunday, March 15, 2009 The Associated Press COLUMBIA, Mo. — A new document meant to help Missouri law enforcement agencies identify militia members or domestic terrorists has drawn criticism for some of the warning signs mentioned. The Feb. 20 report called "The Modern Militia Movement" mentions such red flags as political bumper stickers for third-party candidates, such as U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, who ran for president last year; talk of conspiracy theories, such as the plan for a superhighway linking Canada to Mexico; and possession of subversive literature. "It seems like they want to stifle political thought," said Roger Webb, president of the University of Missouri campus Libertarians. "There are a lot of third parties out there, and none of them express any violence. In fact, if you join the Libertarian Party, one of the things you sign in your membership application is that you don't support violence as a means to any ends." But state law enforcement officials said the report is being misinterpreted. Lt. John Hotz of the Missouri State Highway Patrol said the report comes from publicly available, trend data on militias. It was compiled by the Missouri Information Analysis Center, a "fusion center" in Jefferson City, Mo., that combines resources from the federal Department of Homeland Security and other agencies. The center, which opened in 2005, was set up to collect local intelligence to better combat terrorism and other criminal activity, he said. "All this is an educational thing," Hotz said of the report. "Troopers have been shot by members of groups, so it's our job to let law enforcement officers know what the trends are in the modern militia movement." But Tim Neal, a military veteran and delegate to last year's state GOP convention, said he was shocked by the report's contents. "I was going down the list and thinking, 'Check, that's me,'" he said. "I'm a Ron Paul supporter, check. I talk about the North American union, check. I've got the 'America: Freedom to Fascism' video loaned out to somebody right now. So that means I'm a domestic terrorist? Because I've got a video about the Federal Reserve?" Neal, who has a Ron Paul bumper sticker on his car, said the next time he is pulled over by a police officer, he won't know whether it's because he was speeding or because of his political views. "If a police officer is pulling me over with my family in the car and he sees a bumper sticker on my vehicle that has been specifically identified as one that an extremist would have in their vehicle, the guy is probably going to be pretty apprehensive and not thinking in a rational manner," Neal said. "And this guy's walking up to my vehicle with a gun." But Hotz said using factors in the report to determine whether someone could be a terrorist is not profiling. He said people who display signs or bumper stickers from third-party groups are not in danger of harassment from police. "It's giving the makeup of militia members and their political beliefs," Hotz said of the report. "It's not saying that everybody who supports these candidates is involved in a militia. It's not even saying that all militias are bad." "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
jdmidwest Posted March 27, 2009 Author Posted March 27, 2009 Lt Governor Blasts Militia Report. "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
Thom Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 Lt Governor Blasts Militia Report. Outrage over the report had been brewing for weeks among conservatives who say they're unfairly singled out as possible criminals. On Wednesday morning, that anger spilled into the Capitol when Republican Lt. Gov. Peter Not much fun when the shoe is on the other foot. If you are a democrat conservatives label you a liberal ..... veterns, patriots, charity workers, on and on but now conservatives see that it really can be a bad thing to hold trial on patriotic Americans and find them guilty by association. Thom Harvengt
jdmidwest Posted March 28, 2009 Author Posted March 28, 2009 Outrage over the report had been brewing for weeks among conservatives who say they're unfairly singled out as possible criminals. On Wednesday morning, that anger spilled into the Capitol when Republican Lt. Gov. Peter Not much fun when the shoe is on the other foot. If you are a democrat conservatives label you a liberal ..... veterns, patriots, charity workers, on and on but now conservatives see that it really can be a bad thing to hold trial on patriotic Americans and find them guilty by association. ???? I thought you did not read stuff like this! "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
Thom Posted March 30, 2009 Posted March 30, 2009 It is my priviledge to read what I chose and have an opinion because I am a proud American clinging to my religion, values, flyrods and my guns. (slightly different priority) An avid outdoorsman for over 50 years don't blame me I voted for the other guy also the one who went to war instead of hiding in Arkansas. Thom Harvengt
Chief Grey Bear Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 True words there Thom! Don't know who was hiding in Arkansas, but if is was who I think you may be referring to, at least he was getting a prestigious education that is serving him well. I guess he could have claimed to be a National Guard pilot from a state he had never been to. The only runway lines that I hear he saw were the ones that went up his nose! Chief Grey Bear Living is dangerous to your health Owner Ozark Fishing Expeditions Co-Owner, Chief Executive Product Development Team Jerm Werm Executive Pro Staff Team Agnew Executive Pro Staff Paul Dallas Productions Executive Pro Staff Team Heddon, River Division Chief Primary Consultant Missouri Smallmouth Alliance Executive Vice President Ronnie Moore Outdoors
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