Zack Hoyt Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 Kinda running off topic...but in a good way. Cricket or bigdub, feel free to pm me. I am a bass nut at heart and ahve had to learn some "tricks" to manipulate a fly rod. I am in NO WAY a pro at casting or anything else, just might have some ideas for ya. A fly rod is all about finesse. Having a 9' rod is definately and advantage........hence the B.A.S.S. rule about rod lenght. Zack Hoyt OAF Contributor Flies, Lies, and Other Diversions
mhall02 Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 I think it depends on if you want to drift a jig or actually work a jig (i.e. jig a jig). To drift a small jig (1/80 oz or smaller) under a strike indicator and roll cast it, I think it is pretty easy to do on a fly rod. However, if you are trying to work a jig, the spinning rod is the way to go in my opinion. I don't like that lead head flying behind me and possibly wacking me in the back or head on the return. : ) I prefer the tiny 'bobber' and a skud combo with small shot to get it down.
ozark trout fisher Posted June 11, 2009 Author Posted June 11, 2009 You could always use jigs with a fly rod. I think if you learned a fly rod you would throw that spin rod away. Throw away my spinning rod..... doubtful. Fly fishing is a fine method to fish, not knocking it. I like to do it myself sometimes...... I can cast a fly rod adequately, and have used jigs on a fly rod. I just don't like action is well, plus its a whole lot of trouble. There are some things you can do with a fly rod and not a spinning rod, I'll admit, but there are also plenty of things you can do on a spinning rod but not a fly rod. They are both just tools in my mind, to be used in there capacity when they are more likely to catch fish. I'm really not trying to start a fly fishing vs. spinfishing debate. That is an argument that no one ever wins. In my mind, fishing is fishing, and fisherman are fisherman, no matter what kind of rod is used.
FishinCricket Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 What action are you talking about cricket? I have been able to make far more action and direction changes with my fly rod than with a spincast. Bouncing a maribou jigs around boulders and logs.. Dropping a jig into 15 feet of crystal clear water and enticing a fatty to smack it Feeling the strike in rushing water Planting a maribou jig on the EXACT spot I want it in from 40 feet away I am sure almost all of these things can be duplicated with a fly rod, but not with such minimal effort.. (just an opinion, and no knocking you guys who have spent so much time perfecting the casts, fly ties, knots, and presentations) There will always be a front seat spot for my ultralight. cricket.c21.com
Members bigdub Posted June 11, 2009 Members Posted June 11, 2009 I agree the fly rod and spinning rod both have there advantages and disadvantages, thats what makes fishing so interesting!! The right tools for the job LOL!!! A fool with a plan is always better than a genius with NO PLAN!!!!
Zack Hoyt Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 Your right bigdub, each has its own place. If either of you guys get down to SW Missouri or NW Ark, drop me a line. Would love to hit the river with you. CC, keep in mind how long it took you to learn how to do that stuff with the spinrod. The minimal effort directly corresponds to practice. Zack Hoyt OAF Contributor Flies, Lies, and Other Diversions
Randall Posted June 13, 2009 Posted June 13, 2009 Back to the crankbait thing... what is the definition of permanently attached? A single hook on a crankbait is not tied or glued, the same as a single hook roostertail. You can dis and reassemble a roostertail simlply by untwisting the wire. You can change the lead bodies, hooks, and blades without permanently damaging the lure. So if that hook is considered permanently attached then I would say that a hook attached by a split ring is also permanently attached. Furthermore, the roostertail is not constructed on the hook any more than a crankbait is yet it is legally a fly. Cute animals taste better.
ozark trout fisher Posted June 13, 2009 Author Posted June 13, 2009 Back to the crankbait thing... what is the definition of permanently attached? A single hook on a crankbait is not tied or glued, the same as a single hook roostertail. You can dis and reassemble a roostertail simlply by untwisting the wire. You can change the lead bodies, hooks, and blades without permanently damaging the lure. So if that hook is considered permanently attached then I would say that a hook attached by a split ring is also permanently attached. Furthermore, the roostertail is not constructed on the hook any more than a crankbait is yet it is legally a fly. I'm not sure about crankbaits, but rooster tail spinners with single hooks are most certainly legal, because it specifically mentions them in the regulations as being a fly.
FishinCricket Posted June 13, 2009 Posted June 13, 2009 Your right bigdub, each has its own place. If either of you guys get down to SW Missouri or NW Ark, drop me a line. Would love to hit the river with you. CC, keep in mind how long it took you to learn how to do that stuff with the spinrod. The minimal effort directly corresponds to practice. Agreed.. I will also always have a fly rod in the boat from now on, but I need lots of practice.. cricket.c21.com
FishinCricket Posted June 13, 2009 Posted June 13, 2009 Back to the crankbait thing... what is the definition of permanently attached? A single hook on a crankbait is not tied or glued, the same as a single hook roostertail. You can dis and reassemble a roostertail simlply by untwisting the wire. You can change the lead bodies, hooks, and blades without permanently damaging the lure. So if that hook is considered permanently attached then I would say that a hook attached by a split ring is also permanently attached. Furthermore, the roostertail is not constructed on the hook any more than a crankbait is yet it is legally a fly. It's an interesting question.. I think I'll rig one up and take it to the park store and did out what's up.. Paula will know, she knows amecerythong about that place! I'll report back? cricket.c21.com
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