New Report On Reservoir Locations

[zsmith62]

This is worth fighting for if you ask me.

I'm up for a fight...

Seriously though, I'm with Ozark Trout Fisher on this one, we've got enough lakes already, I don't care what stream we destroy to make another, I DO NOT want anymore in this area. I'm no expert on the matter, but whats wrong with trying to use Table Rock, Bull Shoals or any of our other lakes for water?

[ozark trout fisher]

Any water removed will impact the fishery, period! Crane has struggled for years to stay wet enough for the trout. Low water means higher temperature and that's something the stream can stand no more of.

My point exactly.

More than that, I am opposed to new dams as a general principle. I'm not one who believes that the dams on the White, and other nearby rivers should be torn down, but Missouri has enough reservoirs. The Ozarks don't have enough free flowing streams as is.

But to pull water from a creek with a rare strain of trout, that already has extreme water flow and temperature problems is particularly egregious. I also think the idea of pulling some water from Bull Shoals or Table Rock could conceivably work, they could stand a little drop in the water level, whereas Crane Creek couldn't.

But I'm not a hydrologist.

[mosouthpaw]

im 100% opposed to create a lake near crane creek.

They have had a plan to create a lake on center creek for 40+ years. They have the ability to pump water out of spring river before it leaves the state of missouri.

there are enough lakes to pump out of before making a new lake.

Not that im opposed to new fishing opportunities, its just that the govt has the best ability to royally f*&k up good intentions...

[CBNMO]

Poke 'Em, if you read the report, http://www.news-leader.com/assets/pdf/DO13816678.PDF on page 7 it states

"In all, 14 different potential reservoir sites were identified, four of which are off-channel reservoir sites. These were located on smaller tributaries with varying levels of pumping assumed from an adjacent major river channel. Off-channel reservoirs tend to be easier to obtain appropriate permitting approval".

The way I understand this, the proposal, IS, to dam up Crane Creek, then pump water from the James River into this new reservoir ?

Page 29 states, ". . . it was estimated that approximately 17 miles of perennial and 10 miles of intermittent streams would potentially be impacted."

I read this to mean that 17 miles of Crane Creek would be dammed up ?

* Correction * It does not actually say 17 miles of Crane Creek, just perennial streams. * Correction *

Site 10a is Crane Creek. Proposed to be 2,300 acres, maximum dam height of 110 feet, annual Yield of 59 million gallons/day.

We all expect our community leaders to plan for our future needs. Per this report, Crane Creek Reservoir has the lowest Unit Cost of all the studied sites.

[ozark trout fisher]

Poke 'Em, if you read the report, http://www.news-leader.com/assets/pdf/DO13816678.PDF on page 7 it states

"In all, 14 different potential reservoir sites were identified, four of which are off-channel reservoir sites. These were located on smaller tributaries with varying levels of pumping assumed from an adjacent major river channel. Off-channel reservoirs tend to be easier to obtain appropriate permitting approval".

The way I understand this, the proposal, IS, to dam up Crane Creek, then pump water from the James River into this new reservoir ?

Page 29 states, ". . . it was estimated that approximately 17 miles of perennial and 10 miles of intermittent streams would potentially be impacted."

I read this to mean that 17 miles of Crane Creek would be dammed up ?

Site 10a is Crane Creek. Proposed to be 2,300 acres, maximum dam height of 110 feet, annual Yield of 59 million gallons/day.

We all expect our community leaders to plan for our future needs. Per this report, Crane Creek Reservoir has the lowest Unit Cost of all the studied sites.

Wow... This is really bad. It seems as if there are quite a few people that just don't care about our streams. The attitude of those planning this is basically "We'll do whatever costs the least in the short term, no matter the impact on the environment". It sickens me. It is people like those who want this reservoir, that could ruin everything this country is about. THEY ARE SO SHORT SIGHTED.

[drew03cmc]

Plain and simple, this is a piss poor idea, which if passed, will kill the town of Crane, and hurt the wild trout fisheries in the midwest, as the rarest jewel of them all would be gone. I would like to see this go down in a ball of fire, but we know how these things work.

[Danoinark]

Plain and simple, this is a piss poor idea, which if passed, will kill the town of Crane, and hurt the wild trout fisheries in the midwest, as the rarest jewel of them all would be gone. I would like to see this go down in a ball of fire, but we know how these things work.

People need to organize opposition then, especially the towns people of Crane and anyone who loves the stream. Any word on what the conservation groups intend to do?

[ozark trout fisher]

People need to organize opposition then, especially the towns people of Crane and anyone who loves the stream. Any word on what the conservation groups intend to do?

If anybody has any ideas, I know I'm willing to help. Just tell me. I don't live in Crane, or any where near there actually , but I know it's an extremely valuable resource, and I'll be willing to go to great lengths to save her. Everyone thinks we can just keeping on taking from nature at will, while giving nothing back. This will not work long term. It's very sad that many people can't see this. This is a moral issue to me more than anything else.

I am against any and all dams that may be built on an Ozark stream. Whether its Crane, Shoal, or Indian Creek, I will fight this to the bitter end. We can't falter on this one. We can't afford to.

[Danoinark]

If anybody has any ideas, I know I'm willing to help. Just tell me. I don't live in Crane, or any where near there actually , but I know it's an extremely valuable resource, and I'll be willing to go to great lengths to save her. Everyone thinks we can just keeping on taking from nature at will, while giving nothing back. This will not work long term. It's very sad that many people can't see this. This is a moral issue to me more than anything else.

I am against any and all dams that may be built on an Ozark stream. Whether its Crane, Shoal, or Indian Creek, I will fight this to the bitter end. We can't falter on this one. We can't afford to.

I'm with you on this. I would like to hear what efforts are being made to oppose these dams and if there is already an organized effort or group beginning a fight.

Dano

[ozark trout fisher]

I'm with you on this. I would like to hear what efforts are being made to oppose these dams and if there is already an organized effort or group beginning a fight.

Dano

I dunno. Trout unlimitted said they were gonna tell the national council, but I never heard anything further come of it.... Don't know if they decided not act on it, or if they're still considering it.

I believe I'll email the Missouri Smallmouth Alliance, as they may be interested in the Shoal Creek end of things.