hoglaw Posted September 25, 2009 Posted September 25, 2009 I should know the answer to this, but I don't. At one point in time, I thought the law was that a pistol in the park had to be cased and unloaded. I also seem to recall talk about a recent law allowing national parks to mirror state law where they were located in regard to carrying firearms. I'm doing the lower by myself next week (water permitting), and would really prefer to carry a pistol. I wouldn't have it loaded during the day, but I would have it loaded and uncased at night. That would be fine insofar as the Arkansas laws with regard to "carrying a weapon" are concerned. I don't have a CCL. Anyone know the specifics on this?
bobber Posted September 25, 2009 Posted September 25, 2009 you can have one... just no bullets in it at anytime your on park service land !>>>>>.... raccoon bandit s are what you have to watch out for!! <*)))))))>< * AMERICAN CANOE ASSOCIATION CERTIFIED CANOE, and SWIFT WATER RESCUE INSTRUCTOR.*
GloryDaze Posted September 25, 2009 Posted September 25, 2009 Hog- come on now a loaded pistol... on the Buffalo- I think you have been watching too many movies. Although, as you drift off to sleep you just might hear that faint sound of a banjo playing and within 5 minutes you may be "squeeling like a pig" YYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Have a great trip!!! Follow me on Twitter @DazeGlory
hoglaw Posted September 25, 2009 Author Posted September 25, 2009 Ordinarily I wouldn't be worried about it, particularly if I were in a group. But being alone in the lower wilderness at night....I guess it's just a peace of mind thing. Better to have it and not need it than the converse. Plus I'm going to have my dog with me. He's not big enough to scare anyone, but he's dumb enough to get tangled up with a hog or bear.
eric1978 Posted September 25, 2009 Posted September 25, 2009 Hog- come on now a loaded pistol... on the Buffalo- I think you have been watching too many movies. Although, as you drift off to sleep you just might hear that faint sound of a banjo playing and within 5 minutes you may be "squeeling like a pig" YYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Have a great trip!!! Oh man, my stomach muscles hurt from laughing. Hoglaw, I know exactly how you feel about the "peace of mind" thing. I've thought about it, too. But I think he's right, a pistol may be a little dramatic. How about a nice machete? I certainly wouldn't take a gun without a CCL, and I'd look carefully at the laws if I did. But you're the lawyer, you should be telling us the rules. Anyway, I would't worry about it unless you got a real purty mouth.
tippet7 Posted September 25, 2009 Posted September 25, 2009 Just in case... You are so stupid you threw a rock at the ground and missed.
hoglaw Posted September 25, 2009 Author Posted September 25, 2009 Very funny guys. You're all going to feel really bad when I get mauled by rabid opossums that I couldn't fend off with my canoe paddle. Maybe I'm being overly concerned here. Yes, I know the law, but national parks are a different animal. I've handled multiple "carrying a weapon" charges as both a prosecutor and a defense attorney. Once it's in the parks though, it's a whole new deal. There was some talk about changing the law in national parks to mirror state law with respect to carrying weapons, but judging by Bobber's comments I guess it hasn't taken effect.
hoglaw Posted September 25, 2009 Author Posted September 25, 2009 Ha! Well, I was partially right. Bobber's comments are dead on accurate. If it's outside of hunting season, you can't have a loaded weapon at any time on park land. HOWEVER, as of February 1 (according to the Ranger I spoke with), the national parks including the Buffalo are going to mirror state law. That would mean that I could indeed carry a non-concealed (because I don't have a CCP) loaded weapon at any time on any part of the park unless otherwise specifically prohibited. Being in the park would be a sufficient distance from my home and sufficient circumstances for me to be considered "on a journey," which is an affirmative defense to the charge of carrying a weapon. So, I think I'll leave the pistol at home for this go-round and defeat any would-be attackers with my cunning
eric1978 Posted September 25, 2009 Posted September 25, 2009 Ha! Well, I was partially right. Bobber's comments are dead on accurate. If it's outside of hunting season, you can't have a loaded weapon at any time on park land. HOWEVER, as of February 1 (according to the Ranger I spoke with), the national parks including the Buffalo are going to mirror state law. That would mean that I could indeed carry a non-concealed (because I don't have a CCP) loaded weapon at any time on any part of the park unless otherwise specifically prohibited. Being in the park would be a sufficient distance from my home and sufficient circumstances for me to be considered "on a journey," which is an affirmative defense to the charge of carrying a weapon. So, I think I'll leave the pistol at home for this go-round and defeat any would-be attackers with my cunning Better take it with you now since you talked about it...you know how it goes... I'm a little foggy on the concealed/non-concealed thing since I don't carry a gun anywhere. Are you saying because you don't have a concealed-carry license that you have to have the thing strapped to you in a holster the whole time and can't just have it in your dry bag until you set up camp? That wouldn't make a whole lot of sense to me, but then again, a lot of laws don't make much sense.
Members Yakfly Posted September 26, 2009 Members Posted September 26, 2009 What's the penalty if you're caught with a gun (out of hunting season)?
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