ryan Posted April 25, 2006 Posted April 25, 2006 I fish the little red river alot and they have some natural reproduction with rainbows (more w/ browns though) but they say if the fish can get back into feeder creeks where the beds won't be disturbed from generation than they have a much more productive spawn so control of generation makes perfect sense to me well neat pics
mhall02 Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 I've seen a few little guys like that down at RR in years past (fly zone) but did not have a net or digital camera then to document. There certainly some streams in SW MO that have natural reproduction going on, one or two in particual that are not listed on this forum!! Any guesses as to which ones?
Snow Fly Posted April 27, 2006 Posted April 27, 2006 Current River for one. "God gave fishermen expectancy, so they would never tire of throwing out a line"
motroutbum Posted April 27, 2006 Posted April 27, 2006 I've seen a few little guys like that down at RR in years past (fly zone) but did not have a net or digital camera then to document. There certainly some streams in SW MO that have natural reproduction going on, one or two in particual that are not listed on this forum!! Any guesses as to which ones? those little rainbows you caught in the fly zone are naturally reproduced rainbows. I worked for the conservation department last year and i asked mr dean the hatchery manager about them and he confirmed that those were infact naturally produced fish. for one they dont stock fish that small, and they certainly arent hatchery escapee's. because they are kept inside untill they are large enough to eat pellets and not the dried fish meal. as for the ones in taney they are most certainly naturally produced rainobws as well. and the drought is the answer. like phil said, the fish that small are also kept inside un till they reach the right age to be moved outside to the holding raceways. if you dont belive any of us then you should go and take a hatchery tour. the hatchery does not draw its water from the tailwater itself, it is taken from the same place that taney gets it water....the bottom of the dam. i know which streams you are talking about and i would prefer to keep it a secret if there are people who dont know because i dont want a lot of people coming and thrashing the place. i wouldnt consider the current river southwest. its more south central although it too has naturally reproducing populations There are two types of people. Those who dream dreams and wish, then there are the do'ers. I am a do'er!
jdavis Posted April 27, 2006 Posted April 27, 2006 With the the fish population as dense as it is below the dam, what do you suppose the chances are that these little guys will survive long enough to make it in the slot (over 12")? My guess is they become a great new food source.
Root Admin Phil Lilley Posted April 27, 2006 Author Root Admin Posted April 27, 2006 You're right. Very doubtful. That's why MDC, even though there could be some natural reproduction, doesn't include ANY in their management program for the lake.
Brian K. Shaffer Posted April 27, 2006 Posted April 27, 2006 I still feel Tanyecomo would only produce a 1-4% of natual spawning fish..... and that number would be a touch higher in solid high water time.. but not low water. Believeing that our 'lake-dwelling' trout would prosper against no water is the strongest argument... in my honest opinion. High water flows through the winter could produce such extra fingerlings.. but no water at all - no way. These are hatchery escapees. Brian Just once I wish a trout would wink at me! ozarkflyfisher@gmail.com I'm the guy wearing the same Simms longbilled hat for 10 years now.
Members UAK squirrelpie Posted April 27, 2006 Members Posted April 27, 2006 Current River for one. but the current river is listed in this forum. mhall02 claims the ones he's talking about aren't.
jOrOb Posted April 27, 2006 Posted April 27, 2006 Someone posted a streamer pattern "little rainbow trout" on the pattern forum, and said they caught some browns on it last weekend. Is this because we are getting some fry for a change? Also, will this mean that the big browns will be hanging out in shallower water this year?? jOrOb "The Lord has blessed us all today... It's just that he has been particularly good to me." Rev MacLean
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