.22-250 Or .223

[jjtroutbum]

Not to hijack the thread here, but I'm curious about the S&W M&P 15 in the "Russian" .233 - 5.45x39. Was it less expensive than the regular .223 version? And are you shooting surplus 5.45x39 or commercial?

May be old info but I thought those commie rounds were not even nationally produced, and all surplus was corrosive besides the commercially imported Wolf/Bear brand.

Edit* Seems to still be the case. According to my favorite source. Ammo deals generator

[flyfshn]

The S&W AR15 in the 5.45x39 was $900 and the 2100 rounds (surplus) was $300 and yes it is corrosive, so I will have to do a little more cleaning!

[RSBreth]

...the 2100 rounds (surplus) was $300...

Just remember the FMJ bullets in surplus ammo just doesn't put them down as quick as a good "varmint" bullet, but then again, you'll have several other rounds immediately "on tap" so that may not be a problem.

[Wayne SW/MO]

Just remember the FMJ bullets in surplus ammo just doesn't put them down as quick as a good "varmint" bullet, but then again, you'll have several other rounds immediately "on tap" so that may not be a problem.

Its about as dangerous a round as you can find. No one should ever use a FMJ for varmint hunting. Not only will it not break up, and likely ricochet, but it can do so even after passing through a coyote. Coyotes are tough, and they deserve a quick kill, something only a good varmit bullet in the right place can achieve.

[billynwtf]

FMJ i beleive are illegal to use hunting anything. You must use a expanding type bullet.

[RSBreth]

I'm not sure about the FMJ rule applying to fur bearers, but I do know that the standard military FMJ's tend to "tumble" and yaw after a bit of penetration, sometimes coming out sideways, which makes them pretty nasty, but not likely to ricochet. Doesn't help on misses, though.

I'd still prefer a good fast expanding varmint bullet like Wayne said, either the Nosler Ballistic Tip, Sierra Blitzking, or Hornady V-Max.

Even better, call the Coyotes very close, use good camo, and use 12-gauge 3" Magnum loads of either BB's or T size shot. That definitely works, trust me.

[fly2fish]

I received my 22-250 barrel about a month ago $175 plus some shipping. Took my VariX II off the 30-06 barrel and sighted in with it. After doing a little research on mil-dot sights I ordered a BSA 4X16 40mm with illuminated mil-dot reticle. Debated whether to put it on or not before coyote hunting but yesterday was such a nice day and still good light at 5:30 so I swapped them out and went out back to sight it in. Ballistic tables I had were right on, dead on at 200 yd and less than 1 inch high at 100 with the 50gr hollow points. Tables show about a little over 5 inch drop at 300 yds. The mil-dot is pretty much an over kill because you can still hold dead on at 100-250 yd and a little high (between the cross hairs and first dot down) at 300 yd. If I zero it at 100 yd then the next dot down would be for 300yd. Don't know if I want to use the mil-dots for range finding or not, don't really need to with that round!!!

F2F

[Stoneroller]

mil dot ranging is really only useful for ranges past 300 yards out to 1000 yards or so. and meant for man sized targets (height-wise). you may find the windage dots useful though for wind/lead computations.

[Wayne SW/MO]

If you find the groups a little short you might try 55's, my 22-250's shoot better with 55's.