Tightline Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 Was at the dam this mourning at 6 o cliock.My son and I were throwing jigs and I decided to move below him about 75 yds,after some time had went by,I looked back toward my son and 3 fly fishermen had moved right in front of him,and instead casting they were holding the line in their hands fishing right at their feet and shuffeling.That has to be the darndest thing i've ever seen,drag a 8 1/2 or 9 ft rod down there just so you can fish at your feet!Anyway they moved away before i got up there and its a good thing because there would have been a confrontation.Too much area and too many fish to crowd in on someone.We caught 9 trout and left at 8:30,shuffelers had 2 when they left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonefishin Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 Two of my pet peeves at Taney are shuffling and chumming. Both are legal and in my opinion shouldn't be in the trophy (restricted area)area. Just because they are your pet peeves doesn't mean they have to be everyones pet peeves. I may be wrong about this but it is and always has been my understanding that chumming, except when fishing for non sport fish, is illegal in Missouri. By the way in Missouri you can not be stopped for just a seat belt violation. I don't want to argue but, yes you can be stopped just for a seat belt check in the state of Missouri. They are really campagining about pickups right now. I have recently been stopped twice just to check to see if I was wearing my seat belt. If I had not been wearing it I would have been ticketed. Chumming in the trophy water is apparently legal on Taney which I cannot understand. As I said, I may be wrong, but I believe chumming for sport fish is illegal. I would rather be fishin'. "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rls1936 Posted July 31, 2006 Members Share Posted July 31, 2006 Is there any way to wade and not attract fish to your feet? I tried wading slowly and placing my feet carefully, but they just follow you around like the pied piper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Fly Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 There is really no way to keep the fish from your feet while wading at Taney {my opinion} but as mentioned on this thread before there is a big difference in what is considered normal wading and what is intentional shuffling. As "gonefishing" mentioned I also think it is illegal to chum for sport fish in the state of Missouri. I believe in Ark. it is legal. I was shocked the first time I fished Norfork and observed the bait guides chumming the waters for their clients could catch a lot of fish. I joined up with my fishing partner from KC week ago Sunday at Bennett and observed a father doing a good job of teaching his son how to do the shuffle. I finally had to move on down stream before I said anything. I guess I should have said something, but #1 it is legal and #2 why ruin my day for some block head like that? After all maybe his daddy taught him how to shuffle "God gave fishermen expectancy, so they would never tire of throwing out a line" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Just because they are your pet peeves doesn't mean they have to be everyones pet peeves. I may be wrong about this but it is and always has been my understanding that chumming, except when fishing for non sport fish, is illegal in Missouri. I don't want to argue but, yes you can be stopped just for a seat belt check in the state of Missouri. They are really campagining about pickups right now. I have recently been stopped twice just to check to see if I was wearing my seat belt. If I had not been wearing it I would have been ticketed. As I said, I may be wrong, but I believe chumming for sport fish is illegal. If you got a ticket for seat belt only it could not be prosecuted. check it out. I Didn't say it had to be everones pet peeve. I thought a forum was for everyone to post an opinion or thought. Sorry if I have to agree with everone i guess i will just read the posts and not comment. Thom Harvengt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Thom - it's a pet peeve of mine as well. We're both entitled to this opinion. I watched 2 different groups of shufflers on Taneycomo today. I just don't feel that is a fair or sporting way to fish. There is a huge difference between inadvertantly disturbing the river bed as you wade and purposely kicking at it. But again that is only my opinion. Greg "My biggest worry is that my wife (when I'm dead) will sell my fishing gear for what I said I paid for it" - Koos Brandt Greg Mitchell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonefishin Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 If you got a ticket for seat belt only it could not be prosecuted. check it out. I Didn't say it had to be everones pet peeve. I thought a forum was for everyone to post an opinion or thought. Sorry if I have to agree with everone i guess i will just read the posts and not comment. Thom: You are right. You seem a nice enough guy and I should not have been so defensive. Of course you are entitled to your opinion and I am interested in your opinion. I just dont like confrontation on the water about an issue that is legal. Again my apologies. I would rather be fishin'. "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainT16 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I joined up with my fishing partner from KC week ago Sunday at Bennett and observed a father doing a good job of teaching his son how to do the shuffle. I finally had to move on down stream before I said anything. I guess I should have said something, but #1 it is legal and #2 why ruin my day for some block head like that? After all maybe his daddy taught him how to shuffle My father and I were at Bennett Last week, and didn't think about the "shuffle" going on there, well to my surprise I was wrong. This guy was an older gentlemen with his wife and I think his wife was to embarrased to be next to him as she was way downstream of him fishing like it should be done. My dad was telling me about it and it was funny as every cast he was the only one catching anything, would have thought he was fishing with some kind of bait in zone 1 until I saw him dangling his pole and line right downstream of himself. Pretty sad to see this activity going on everywhere nowdays. "He told us about Christ's disciples being fisherman, and we were left to assume...that all great fishermen on the Sea of Galilee were fly fisherman and that John, the favorite, was a dry-fly fisherman." - Norman Maclean-A River Runs Through It Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members moonshiner1980 Posted August 2, 2006 Members Share Posted August 2, 2006 bad thing about it untill i read this forun i had never thought of or ever herd of this tactic although it isn't sportsman like if i was camping and ran out of food and wanted fish fast i would would resort to such an unerhanded tactic but other than that either i'm "skilled" enough or i'm not "skilled" enough to catch them the right way. Fight the good fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flip4bass Posted August 2, 2006 Members Share Posted August 2, 2006 Alright, now I am curious. I am not saying that I don't think that shuffling is unethical because I do. Mainly because it effects other fisherman around you. If its doesn't bother other fishernan (there is no one esle anywhere near you), I'm not as worried about people shuffling. I have never done this and I had actually never heard of this until this topic was brought up. Just wondered if people would feel the same if it didn't actually happen to mess up there fishing. But now for those that think going through a school of shad in a boat causing them to scramble and setting off the feeding reflex in the fish, do you really think that is the same thing. I noticed some saying that it is also wrong. If that is the case then what do you think about things that the pros do on the tours (Kevin VanDam among others) by placing mechanisms that release sounds into the water that sound like shad feeding. I am by no means saying that the pros are moral but just trying to see what everyone else thinks about that as well. I am trying to see what most people perceve as being moral in fishing. I mean you could go as far as saying that the fly or lure you put into the water in not natural and is actually causing the fish to feed. How far does this thing go? Again I am just trying to get some perspective on what other anglers think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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