Jdecoudres Posted July 25, 2011 Posted July 25, 2011 When connecting the back hook with front hook what are you guys using? Can I just use heavy like 20ib test fishing line from like wall mart?
Kayser Posted July 25, 2011 Posted July 25, 2011 I'm using 15lb mono from my baitcaster. Thread base, tie down mono 3/4 shank length, slip on 2 red glass beads, hook eye, then back through the beads, cinch to desired length, tie in (same length as other end), trim excess. Continue tying front fly. WARNING!! Comments to be interpreted at own risk. Time spent fishing is never wasted.
troutbum479 Posted July 26, 2011 Posted July 26, 2011 I agree with Kayser, pretty much hit the nail on the head. I sometimes use 30 pound mono when I want a stiffer connection with less movement. arkmoflyfishing.blogspot.com http://okietroutbum.blogspot.com/
flyrodman Posted July 26, 2011 Posted July 26, 2011 I am using some 30 lb Cajun Line Which I bought at walmart for around 5 bucks, and you get a whole lot of it too, I have also heard of using amnesia line also. I have not used mono though. Luke Walz
jdmidwest Posted July 26, 2011 Posted July 26, 2011 Depending on the gap of the first fly to the back hook. Fine wire or mono with cinch knots do just fine. What type of fly are you tying? Heavy line like the 20lb test will restrict the movement of the back part of the fly. "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
Hopper Posted July 26, 2011 Posted July 26, 2011 20lb backing, 3" piece looped thru eye of trailer hook, thread base on lead hook, super glue, tie down backing to lead hook, trim excess. I color the backing with a sharpie to match the color of the fly. Backing is extremly flexable giving the fly extra movement. Gregg The gods do not deduct from man's allotted span the hours spent in fishing.
dave potts Posted July 27, 2011 Posted July 27, 2011 This struck my eye as just yesterday I got around to watching a Kelly Gallop TV program I taped sometime back and his segment on tying was this exact topic. Kelly uses bead wire from Michaels. Don't recall the size but he said what was most important was to make sure to use a glass bead and make certain that when you bend the wire that the fold in the wire is positioned so that one wire is over the other and not side by side. That will prevent twisting of the trailer fly. He slides the wire through the bead and through the eye of the trailer hook and then back through the bead so that the two parts of the wire are setting sort of top and bottom and not side by side. Kind of hard to explain. He then holds the looped wire on top of the main hook shank and binds it down with his wrapping thread and also adds a drop of superglue. Dave
Leonard Posted July 27, 2011 Posted July 27, 2011 20lb backing, 3" piece looped thru eye of trailer hook, thread base on lead hook, super glue, tie down backing to lead hook, trim excess. I color the backing with a sharpie to match the color of the fly. Backing is extremly flexable giving the fly extra movement. Gregg I do this myself... with the backing... when using mono, Ive noticed that once it creases it becomes weak in that area.. when a big fish is hooked on the trailer hook and starts to twist.. that mono sometimes break. Ive used both ... I just prefer the backing method. One another post talking about Kelly's flies.. I believe he uses what is called "American wire". Michaels do carry it but only some stores, I have asked the one here in Branson and they dont (at least didnt a year ago) http://www.taneycomonights.com
Brian Wise Posted July 27, 2011 Posted July 27, 2011 Heavy line like the 20lb test will restrict the movement of the back part of the fly. EXACTLY! I use beading wire too. Got it from walmart and the texture on the outside (the very fine plastic) is rough so when you tie it in there is absolutely no slip anywhere...not even a possibility. It goes through the eye of the trailer hook really well as it is half the size of say 20 or 30 pound mono but double that break-strength and that allows a ton more movement for the back hook. I used thick mono for a long time, and still do for something that I don't 'need' to move a ton all the way down (like articulated double bunnies) but when I think of the true reason for articulating flies I think of the movement that back hook gives and wire is so much better. My $.02 Brian My Youtube Channel
dave potts Posted July 28, 2011 Posted July 28, 2011 EXACTLY! I use beading wire too. Got it from walmart and the texture on the outside (the very fine plastic) is rough so when you tie it in there is absolutely no slip anywhere...not even a possibility. It goes through the eye of the trailer hook really well as it is half the size of say 20 or 30 pound mono but double that break-strength and that allows a ton more movement for the back hook. I used thick mono for a long time, and still do for something that I don't 'need' to move a ton all the way down (like articulated double bunnies) but when I think of the true reason for articulating flies I think of the movement that back hook gives and wire is so much better. My $.02 Brian Brian, What size and brand of beading wire do you use? From your description, I assume it is plastic coated wire. Dave
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