Members Charley Hart Posted November 2, 2006 Members Posted November 2, 2006 First I would like to say that I have read this forum for some time and have really enjoyed the information gained from it. I have recently been reading posts on the web criticizing people for playing foul hooked fish to the net. The poster suggest that one is to break off a fish when it is realized that the fish is foul hooked. I could be wrong but I morally have a problem with leaving a fly or possibly flies and tippet material in a fish to drag around. I have fished Taneycomo for years and have foul hooked too many fish to remember but I honestly do not believe that I have mortally injured "any" fish by landing and removing a foul hook. Parading a snagged fish around after landing it is one thing but do we not have an obligation to remove a fly and release the fish as quickly as possible? Maybe I'm wrong, sure wouldn't be the first time. Well seems like I am different. Said this on another post. I have foul hooked two trout at Taney that I can remember. Purely a mistake. One was near the eye and one was toward the dorsal. Now in ponds I have foul hooked more then I can remember. Mostly I think it occurs while putting action on the fly at the moment the fish strikes. Usually getting it near but not in the mouth. I did foul hook a trout in a pond (urban fishs stocking) by jigging a wooly bugger up and down. Yes it did take me a while to get her in, but I am fairly sure she was fine. At least until spring and then she ended up on someones plate! That said I agree if it DOES happen then I think you should try to get the fly and line out. No one should be happy about a foul hooked fish. Snagging is something totally different...
jOrOb Posted November 2, 2006 Posted November 2, 2006 You make an excellent point Phil. If a fish is obviously not coming by the head and you are confident that you have fouled it back, then let it off, no doubt. Plus they fight funny like that and it is just no fun at all. jOrOb "The Lord has blessed us all today... It's just that he has been particularly good to me." Rev MacLean
Don Posted November 2, 2006 Posted November 2, 2006 I find the shuffling/snagging combo method to be very effective if my big treble hooks are sharpened well enough. I can usually come up with at least a dozen 16" fish on my stringer. Don May I caught you a delicious bass.
gonefishin Posted November 2, 2006 Posted November 2, 2006 You're missing one thing. On Taney - hook a big brown or rainbow in the fall in the tail or under the belly or back using 6x or 7x... you fight this fish to the net and chances are it's dead. Low DO- that's the difference. When hooking a fish in the mouth, you have much more control of the head of the fish and he has to fight harder, tiring quicker, making the fight shorter in most cases. If it's hooked back from the head, you don't have control and he can fight and fight till he's exhausted. Because of the low DO, he often times cannot be revivied. Low DO is the only reason I'd say if you foul hook a big fish, break him off or you may kill it. Excellent point Phil and I stand down on that part of the argument. It would be better to break the fish off than to for sure kill it. That brings up another question however, Wouldn't it be better to not fish at all when the DO is below a certain level? I would rather be fishin'. "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." Benjamin Franklin, 1759
Leonard Posted November 2, 2006 Posted November 2, 2006 There is a big differance in snagging and foul hooking.... snagging your trying to foul hook a fish... someday stand at the stairs above chute 2... and you can tell who trying to snag a fish.... yes there are alot of fish foul hooked.. but when you see a guy set the hook like he's trying to win the bass masters classic at the end of ever drift... that's snagging!!! I was down a few days (maybe a week) ago and saw 5 people standing in chute 1... yes there were all 5 standing there... and shuffing there feet.... I watched them for 10 minutes... and between the 4... I think there caught 2 fish... and foul hooked (or snagged) atleast 15 fish... I left and was going to head down stream... seen a couple of guys in the parking lot.. and started BSing... the guy who was right in the chute (the main shuffler) walked up and was talking about the day he had... caught over 200 fish in 5 hour... http://www.taneycomonights.com
Terry Beeson Posted November 2, 2006 Posted November 2, 2006 "isn't the purpose of fishing to catch fish " Sure it is... so why don't we all get together with one big net and sein Taney and get it over with.... TIGHT LINES, YA'LL "There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying to outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting licked in the process." - Paul O’Neil
gonefishin Posted November 2, 2006 Posted November 2, 2006 "isn't the purpose of fishing to catch fish " Sure it is... so why don't we all get together with one big net and sein Taney and get it over with.... Uhhhh, Terry, do I detect just a hint of sarcasim in that post? I would rather be fishin'. "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." Benjamin Franklin, 1759
Terry Beeson Posted November 2, 2006 Posted November 2, 2006 "Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after." ~Henry David Thoreau (Thanks Dano....) TIGHT LINES, YA'LL "There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying to outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting licked in the process." - Paul O’Neil
Don Posted November 2, 2006 Posted November 2, 2006 Yep. Seining also works real well at Taney. I usually bring my gig for stragglers that try to get away. Don May I caught you a delicious bass.
Terry Beeson Posted November 2, 2006 Posted November 2, 2006 Gig? Jeez, Don... two words for ya... Dyno Mite.... And if'n that don't get 'em... my .270 will... TIGHT LINES, YA'LL "There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying to outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting licked in the process." - Paul O’Neil
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