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looking to purchase a fly rod/reel combo. would probly use it on the tanneycomo and maybe the st francois river at sam baker state park if i ever get down there again, and the occaisional outing around here at some ponds or lakes. been looking at the white river stuff from bass pro. i dont really know what to get only have done it once and that wasnt for very long. would like to keep it under 200-250( wouldnt mind being able to get some othere nesecity gear with that money also). is there any opinions on any models i should look at. id like to get something that was pretty much ready to go beins though i dont know much about them. and what other things are a must have when fly fishing. and maybe a handful of fly recomendations for allaround fishing crappie bluegill bass for around here(im in central illinois ) i know ya try to match the hatch but if ther are some basic flies that would work about anywhere for a beginer that would be helpful and what flies to buy for tanneycomo i know just go to phils when i get to branson but ill have some time between now and then and ill probly start stocking up on them sooner or later. from what ive read on here i guess you cant have too many flies in your box. thanks in advance i know im askin the right folks

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hey moose -

I am a firm believer in Bass Pro's entry level equipment. The Dogwood Canyon rod is so much improved over the last few years.. worth every penny as your first outfit. The reel you get is a great one too. It will be your backup setup for sure if you ever upgrade to higher quality in the future. (or the wife will end up owning it if your not careful.. then you gotta upgrade for her even quicker)

As far as flies.. I betcha you could get by with under a dozen patterns for Taney. Wolly buggers in olive and black, San Juan Worms in worm brown and red, egg flies in a host of colors, green and gray scuds / sowbugs, soft hackles in a few colors and a couple of midges.. a beadhead midge and a standard midge. Those flies seem to be a staple : they work great about all the time.

The water conditions on the other hand are not so predictable.

cheers - Brian

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thanks for the responses guys again this is a whole new ballgame to me and the help is greatly appreciated. would i need a large arbor reel or not, advantages disadvantages of them?

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I agree with both Brian's choices. The Bass Pro Hobbs Creek and the TFO stuff are both nice. But I would add one other for you to look at. The Bass Pro White River classic rod and reel are top quality and you can buy the whole setup with line and leader for under $200. If it is important to you the aesthetics of this rod and reel are really good. The rod is reasonably light with a nicely finished wood reelseat. The reel is machined aluminum (not cast) and has a great disc drag. This setup is one step up from the Hobbs Creek. I have a Bass Pro classic 8' 5 weight that I fish just as often as my much more expensive rods.

Good luck

Greg

"My biggest worry is that my wife (when I'm dead) will sell my fishing gear for what I said I paid for it" - Koos Brandt

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I agree with Greg. I have a White River Classic with a Battenkill reel that I have used for several years. It quickly became and still is my favorite outfit.

I would rather be fishin'.

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." Benjamin Franklin, 1759

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Just my opinion: Large arbor reels are nice but not necessary for trout/bass/panfish. A good reel with a quality disk drag is all you would ever need in MO. I think the large arbor comes more into play with salt water FF.

The large arbor reels in some styles and brands are heavier than the standard arbor. In others they are not. If you want a great reel that will last forever look at the Ross Cimmaron and CLA(large arbor). They are both in the $150 to $200 range. But as stated earlier the White River (bass pro) classic reel is a good one as well and it is only $80 to $100.

Greg

"My biggest worry is that my wife (when I'm dead) will sell my fishing gear for what I said I paid for it" - Koos Brandt

Greg Mitchell

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Moose,

The important parts to get are your rod and flyline. Both will eat up your budget.

Buy a top quality line RIO/SA/Cortland don't stick with the stuff in a starter outfit it will help you cast that much better . For that reason i don't like kits

Finding a rod _ go and cast as many as you can. If you can't cast it at the shop don't buy it. Buying a rod is like choosing a partner, very individual. You might say to me "but I don't know much about casting". My response always is which rod is easier to cast "the one you don't have to think as much about casting" and it won't always be the most expensive one.

Plus you will get free casting tips from store lackeys like me ;) Good stores with guys who know what is going on won't just be pushing a sale but will get a rod to suit you and what you are fishing for etc

Buy all means by a $20 Bass pro type reel, there are severla out there _ cortland, the new Ross's are $50 and will see you through until you want to buy a good one. Save money there and spend the extra money on a line. The difference between a pieceof crap and a good one is only $30.

Fill out the rest of the stuff as needed and per budget.

When I started fly fishing i used to walk home past a flyshop at least once a week. I'd usually do 5-10 flies a time and pretty soon you have a decent selection.

Cheers

Steve

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hey thanks all for the help appreciate it. heres another one for ya's ok i know you have the fly line, a leader and a tippet ...what is a tippet and do you need it, its just another leader isnt it? also backing is xtra fishingline behind the fly line rite? can ya tell im a newbie lol

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Tippet is the pointy end of your leader simple as that, obviously most important as its the closest to the fly etc.

Now why you tie a section of extra tippet to the tippet section of your tapered leader?

First point cost savings.

Tapered Leader 9' @ $3.79. Tippet spool $3.79= 30yards.

Every time you retie your fly you will be cutting off a piece, before too long you will get into the thicker stuff and without extra tippet you would be retieing a new $3.79 leader.

Now when selecting leaders don't go for a 6x tippet tapered leader. I'll usually go for a 5x or 4x then add 3' of 6x super flouro. So you get a continuous step down and better casting etc.

The other reason is 6x mono tippet is way way weaker than 6x super flouro so you are giving up the advantages you get by buying the expensive super flouro $13 bucks a spool.

Cheers moose

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