Members buffaloman Posted February 27, 2007 Members Posted February 27, 2007 Well this is a first for me on Ozark Angler, but I need the assestiance of you fly fisher persons. The rod which I have retrived out of storage is a Garcia conolon #2536 7'10" dry fly, line size B-GBG-GBF-7F 85. I am thinking of pro bass line,but what would be a good selection? I am getting back into fly fishing after 20 years of bass, and I got the bug real bad. Last 2/22/07 I netted 5 bows and 2 tail walkers on one of the white water streams, UL spinning. I know that you trout guys out there will know just what is needed to set this up Thanks Frank aka buffaloman
Danoinark Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Actually Buffaloman I think I can help you. B means level line GBG means DT line GBF means WF line I am unsure what the 7f 85 means. B-GBG-GBF-7F 85 Your rod is designed for a new AFTMA line rating of 8 weight in either level, Double Taper or Weight Forward line. It should cast any of those comfortably. I bet it would also handle an 8 weight forward bass bug taper also. Dano Glass Has Class "from the laid back lane in the Arkansas Ozarks"
Bill Butts Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 buffaloman, I suggest the very best thing you can do to obtain the best matching line for your old fly rod is to take it to a reputable fly tackle dealer and ask their expert advice. They should have some store demo lines they can test cast on it to evaluate. One fact I always try to nicely explain to those attempting to utilize old tackle is that there is a lot of very good equipment on the market today at very reasonable prices that will outperform even some of the more expensive older tackle. It's something to keep in mind, especially as you are learning the sport. Also, be sure to discuss with the dealer what you want to fish for, and where. This will help them determine your needs for tackle to do the job properly, too. Always good to hear of another new fly fishing convert. Good luck in your pursuits, Bill If you need a suggestion for a good tackle dealer, send me a PM including the area you live. Bill Butts Springfield MO "So many fish, so little time"
Members buffaloman Posted February 28, 2007 Author Members Posted February 28, 2007 Thanks to Danoinark & Bill_Butts, I am located in the north east corner of Oklahoma, Grove, on Grand lake. We have been here 9 years now, located from St. Louis Mo. I did not realize that there was that much stream fishing in this area. Well guys Thanks loads and I will move up to the trout section, also I will be at the hickory creek clean up, to meet you guys. Frank aka buffaloman
Terry Beeson Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 I was sure the 7f made it a 7 wt rod, but hey... how should I know? Welcome to the forum, Buffaloman... Isn't Conolon starting to make fly rods again? TIGHT LINES, YA'LL "There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying to outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting licked in the process." - Paul O’Neil
Danoinark Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 I have to agree with Bill in that just because the line rating is such, doesn't mean it wouldn't cast better with a line up or down in size. If you are line shopping most stores will let you go out in the yard and cast them on your rod for the feel. Terry I was basing my post on the old AFTMA chart that I have. All of the letter codes correspond to an 8 wt. Dano Glass Has Class "from the laid back lane in the Arkansas Ozarks"
Gavin Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Dano is correct, the old GBG and GBF line designations are the equivalent of a modern 8wt. That old conolon might be a good rod for tossing popping bugs for bass, but you might want to look into a new 5wt outfit if you intend to do a lot of trout fishing. Cheers.
Terry Beeson Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Wasn't doubting you, Dano. Just that I did guess the GBG and GBF as being WF and DT. My "natural" deduction then went to the 7F as the weight designation. I know the weight designation of a line is the grain weight of the first 30 feet of line (past the initial tip) with an 8 wt being 210 +/- 8 grains. But why would the old "GBG GBF" designation make it an 8 wt, Gavin? I thought these two had to do with the taper only. This may just be a good history lesson. TIGHT LINES, YA'LL "There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying to outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting licked in the process." - Paul O’Neil
Danoinark Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Terry here is my chart for future reference: You can see by this that those two designations are always for an 8 weight. Dano AFTMA Conversion Chart AFTMA # DT WF LEVEL MM - OD IN - OD 1 -- -- I 0.56 .022 2 -- -- H 0.63 .025 3 IFI IFG G 0.76 .030 4 HFH HFG F 0.89 .035 5 HEH HEG E 1.02 .040 6 HDH HDG D 1.14 .045 7 HCH HCF C 1.27 .050 8 GBG GBF B 1.40 .055 9 GAG GAF A 1.52 .060 10 G2AG G2AF 2A 1.65 .066 11 G3AG G3AF 3A 1.78 .070 12 G4AG G4AF 4A 1.91 .073 Glass Has Class "from the laid back lane in the Arkansas Ozarks"
Gavin Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Terry old fly lines were sized by diameter not weight. It was an inconsistant system, because the silk lines weighed more than nylon lines on the same diameter. They switched to the line weight of the first 30' around the time that 3M invented PVC fly lines. FWIW, a modern PVC line will be a lot thicker than a silk or nylon fly line of the same weight. Cheers.
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