has anyone heard this?

[gonefishin]

Terry:

Guess I should have been clearer in my post. I was agreeing with you and SM. It is obvious people (me included) don't understand what exactly they mean by a 5 foot raise. It is easy for me to realize that I don't understand it by asking myself a couple of questions. How many more acres would an additional 5 feet of water cover with the lake at flood stage? Or for that matter how many more acres would a 5 ft overall raise cover at normal pool? When it is looked at that way it is simple to understand they aren't planning to raise the overall lake level 5 feet.

[Wayne SW/MO]

there are about as many trout fishermen AGAINST MinFlo as there are for it...

Because????

How many more acres would an additional 5 feet of water cover with the lake at flood stage?

They won't do this GF, not voluntarily. If you are talking about above power pool, thats a different animal. I would also guess that it would be expensive to calculate,however.

I know that many on here don't see BS month after month. Its the last "Bucket" in protecting the lower White agriculture, which is the purpose of the lakes, supposedly. It's kept where it is in water levels because it can then take a flood from its own watershed, or it can alleviate one from above, or both if its capacity is kept high.

[Grandpa Tom]

Here's the COE website covering this matter.

http://www.swl.usace.army.mil/planning/wrminflow.html

The most recent information can be found in the link to "Draft EIS White River Minimum Flow Reallocation Study"

Here's the Arkansas Game & Fish Commission posting.

http://www.agfc.com/fishing/resources-fishing/minimum-flow-fish.aspx

As to what impact this may have, it's difficult to predict. Mainly, I believe it will mean more frequent flooding of currently accessible areas. Shadowrock Park and Slough Hollow Road (Tin Whistles) are a couple I am familiar with. I know that Slough Hollow Road becomes impassible at about 659.5 ft. This typically happens 2-3 times a year for brief periods. The increased lake levels will likely cause flooding here more like 4-5 time a year and for longer periods of time. As for Shadowrock Park, I can foresee the park becoming virtually unusable during the spring. River Run boat ramp may be okay most of the time, just less ramp out of the water.

Many current non-maintained lake accesses may become unusable (Current turn-arounds, boat launches, etc.) The ramps at K-Dock and, for sure, Moore Bend across from K-Dock may just about disappear much of the year. At the current level of 657 ft., the ramps at Moore Bend are totally submerged.

Another almost hidden impact is on Taneycomo and Powersite dam as Taneycomo is not a COE managed lake. Power generation capacity will decrease as the water fall between Taneycomo and Bull Shoals is decreased (Taneycomo will not/can not increase lake level).

Times are a changin'.

[Wayne SW/MO]

Tom do you know if they're raising the low part of Slough Hollow. It appears they're raising the Taneyville road, and I assumed that was why, but I don't know that for a fact.

[Grandpa Tom]

Actually, I haven't heard concerning raising Slough Hollow Road. It would make some sense, at least to those of us who use it. But, "sense" has not always dictated County or COE projects. And, I'm not 100% sure the engineering would support raising the roadbed over Tin Whistles. They may have to totally redo that area. Otherwise, I'd say raising the roadbed was economically feasible.

(Rev.) I just emailed County Road & Bridge and posed the question to them. We'll see...

[Terry Beeson]

...I just emailed County Road & Bridge and posed the question to them. We'll see...

How many CR&B employees will it take to answer your email?

Answer: 10

1 to type the answer.

6 to stand around behind the typer and watch making sure he doesn't type too fast.

2 that will be on break.

1 to keep an eye on the clock so they don't miss lunch or qutting time.

[crappiefisherman]

If you got paid as poorly as a county employee you wouldnt get in any hurry either.This is not a knock statement by any means, it is the truth.I am not trying to question your funny there, but , walk a mile in another mans shoes, or job and then dont be so quick.I dont work for the county but am involved in a road dept.

[Grandpa Tom]

Just got the Taney County Times and there's a front page article that seems to indicate the Forsyth-Taneyville road project is not associated with Bull Shoals Lake level changes - at least not openly. There is no mention of the lake issue in the entire article, only that the project had to be re-submitted to COE due to method of stump and tree removal. Of course, TCT isn't always known for thorough reporting.

As for County Road & Bridge employees, I have no complaints. I used to live in Springfield where CU caught the brunt of similar fun pokin'. Seems most all public "servants" get shot at, spit on or in some way put down whether they deserve it or not. I think it goes with the territory.

[Terry Beeson]

I've got to say in my line of work, I've had the same joke told om me... as have maintenance men, ANY type manager, and a host of others... It was meant as a joke... And I've walked that mile in those moccasins...

[crappiefisherman]

good, so you realize the importance of break time , lunch and quit time in the workplace .Oh and I didnt know you were indian.lmaooooooooo