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I'm going to try some RIO line for my 4 and 5 weight rods.

I had in mind the Rio Grande but the more I look at the Selective Trout I think I might just go with it. I fish Taney and Roaring River mostly and have a lot of opportunity to roll cast (not that I'm any good at it).

My question: is the DT still OK for regular overhand casts as well as roll casts?

BTW, would the Rio Grande be more forgiving on a medium fast rod?

thanks

Jerry

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Jerry

I have a few of the Rio lines in various wt's and I am absolutely sold on them. They seem to cast better for me and haven't noticed a significant tip sink as I do with other floating lines. As to cast DT, yes you won't notice hardly any difference in your conventional casts.

I am also using Rio fluro tippet material. For me its the greatest stuff.

Dano

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Thanks Dano,

Another advantage I can see to the DT is using both ends of the line to make it last twice as long!

Funny you mention your tip sinking. I'm using GPX and I really like it but the stuff just doesn't float that great. I keep it clean and don't put anything on it like SA suggest.

Unlike SA, Rio says it's OK to use a conditioner/floatant.

I've got a couple of spools of Rio Grande coming but think I'll return them for the Selective DT.

Any other input would be appreciated.

Jerry

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Dano and others:

Most of my lines are WF. I was under the impression it would help me with distance.

Can one of you experts discuss the advantages of WF VS: DT for my benifit. I am not one of those guys that can thrown out 40 foot of line regularly.

I have a 4 wt, two 5wt, a 6 wt and recently purchased an 8 wt. for Reds and specks in the gulf as well as night fishing at Taney. The 8 wt came loaded with WF and I can throw it a mile.

I mostly backcast from my boat so I can get away with some lack of finese. I don't have any problem with roll casting WF.

I am open for suggestions and opinoins. Please educate me.

Thom Harvengt

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Dano and others:

Most of my lines are WF. I was under the impression it would help me with distance.

Can one of you experts discuss the advantages of WF VS: DT for my benifit. I am not one of those guys that can thrown out 40 foot of line regularly.

I have a 4 wt, two 5wt, a 6 wt and recently purchased an 8 wt. for Reds and specks in the gulf as well as night fishing at Taney. The 8 wt came loaded with WF and I can throw it a mile.

I mostly backcast from my boat so I can get away with some lack of finese. I don't have any problem with roll casting WF.

I am open for suggestions and opinoins. Please educate me.

Jerry and Thom

I am by far being an expert, but I can give you my opinion and thoughts on DT vs WF. I have all of my 3 and 4 wts and one 5 wt loaded with DT line. I will use these reels with light and short rods for streams such as Roaring River and Crane Creek When you are working a fly close in I feel that you can roll cast a bit better with these dt lines, the primary reason is that the DT lines will load rods better with less line out of the rod tip. If you are casting conventionally then I feel one could adequately cast up to 50 feet with a dt line depending on what weight rod and action you are using. Experts will be able to cast further. Jerry mentioned that when one end wears out then just turn it around and you have another line. Two for the price of one so to speak.

The bottom line is that if you are fishing where roll casting is the primary cast then I think DT is the best way to go.

Dano

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I'm no expert, but I have had the Rio Grand on both my 4wt and 5wt and it was ok. My wife bought me a Rio Line for our anniversary and it was a DT and I haven't used WF since. Just my preference, but try it out and see what works for you.

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Double taper line is a better bet for shorter casts. It loads the rod better and makes for better roll casts. It loads easier for the shorter range of casting strokes. And it has the advantage of being turned around and used from the other end.

Weight forward is designed for longer casts, the taper is in the front and the line shoots for distance. If you are going to be casting 40 yards or fishing salt water, the WF would be the way to go. I don't think roll casting will come into play here.

Like rods, lines are specialized for the needs of certain types of fishing situations and casters. Trial and error is the best way. Some rods cast better with a line size heavier in come cases. You will have to fish several different lines to get the best one for the rod. Avoid cheaper lines as they almost always disappoint.

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Hunter S. Thompson

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Up until a few years ago most rod makers would designate two line weights on the rod. Such as 5/6 which would be noted on the blank. This meant that it was designed for a 5 wt dt or a 6 wt wf line. Even many of the old glass and cane rods came with two wt designations.

Dano

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I am not an expert either, but I have several reels with SA GPX and Nymph WF line and when I was down at Bennet Springs I stopped into Gastons to buy line for one of my reels and Bob recommended Lazerline DT and I can really tell the difference between WF & DT. IMO it is easier to roll cast and at the widest part of zone 1, I can cast it to the other side without any difficulty (50-60'?)

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Mike Utt

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Thanks for the input guys. Looks like my Christmas list just got an addition:

Rio 5 wt DT flyline.

Thom Harvengt

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