Rusty

Couldn't be explained any better than the last sentence in my post! And it has nothing to do with "getting off cheap".

I only thought I was finished with this topic, but I couldn't resist. "Studies have been done but imo it involves considerable speculation...by studies gf is not to far off from what I have seen." Can some please tell me where the numbers are coming from that are being posted on this topic? Does this same study only include one way of C & R? i.e. barbed, baited, barbless, single hooks, treble hooks. And who is the one that hangs around to see how many fish die for which type of tackle is being used? One other question. How many fishing parks in the state of Missouri have C & R only sections during the regular season? Would the parks make it an across the board C & R? Would it include single barbless hook, baited/plastic, treble, single hook. Or would it only be barbless single hooks? This is where I think the issue gets heated. Everyone wants to be treated the same. However, life does not treat everyone the same. People who C & R take into consideration water temperature, lures, the handling and the release of the fish. If not they should. I have a question to pose. With all that have posted one way or the other on this topic, who uses conventional tackle and who uses fly fishing tackle? Is this where the division is on this topic? I will state that I use fly fishing tackle (single barbless hooks) only when C & R. Maybe that explains why I am for the issuance of the permit. If they open it up to all other tackle, then I would be against it. There, I said it, I am being prejudice I guess.

Your right chief, does that make you feel better? I was there to see that one die. Nothing hypothetical about that.

I am the roll cast gipper for sure. I appreciate your help, and thanks.

You are right about the crappie. Our family had a fish fry last weekend and the hostess fried up 20 lbs of crappie. It has been years since I have eaten crappie, and boy did that leave me craving more. Is there anyway you or slider can post photos of the area. I am trying to figure out if there is any room for back cast and such. It is a pretty good drive for me, just trying to eliminate driving all the way there, and finding out there isn't room. Thanks

I can appreciate your passion for this however, your numbers are purely hypothetical. I am by no means claiming to be perfect, but I can disprove your numbers just by my own experience of catch and release. After trout fishing for three years with a fly rod, I can honestly say that I have only lost one fish to death, after release, that I know of. (EDITED TO MAKE chief FEEL BETTER.) PURELY HYPOTHETICAL. And it was a small fish that didn't look all that healthy to begin with. Granted, not every person who C&R has the same outcome. I just wanted to add this so others know that not all C&R people, kill the numbers of fish that you are claiming.

Sorry, haven't had my morning coffee yet.

Anyone hearing reports of whites being caught? Maybe a hybrid or two?

WOW! What are the lengths of the whites?

I always liked using the seal skins with the club marks and blood stains on them. Made for a more manly fishing day.

Was it taken in a aquarium?

Roy D Mercer is a syndicated radio prankster. Surely you have heard of him. He and Sharon Jean have been know to frequent local fishing waters such as Stinky Bottom Creek and more. Beware, or you could be his next target. I would be late for work just to here what he was up to that morning. One of his best was when he called a guy that had went to a concert and hooked up with a girl. The guy did hook up with a girl, but Roy D had this guy convinced that it was his daughter Latisha who was 14 yrs. old and had lied to the guy who she was and her age. Latisha had became knocked up and daddy, Roy D, was out to open a can of whoop butt. This guy was ready to cry. He has several CD's out, get one and get ready to laugh till you cry.

This site will know what it is. http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/

Sure, why not. With the money from catch and keep crowd, who else. I can honestly say that fishing is NOT cheap. Chief, it's not like some are trying to get out on the cheap. There could be an additional fee for fishing the state parks for catch and release. If I buy this license and only use it twice, who comes out ahead on the deal? Do I get my own police to over see this? Will I cry for a refund, heck no. Would the people who show late to the opening horn get a discount? The questions can go on and on. It's not rocket science.

It all looks good on paper. But it's kinda like a nuclear power plant, all the precautions are put in place, but in only takes one melt down to completely ruin a great area.

The question should be...Why do the catch & release people have to pay a additional fee to catch and release? It appears to me, that the catch and release crowd are the ones being excluded. They already pay a fee to fish when they buy the state license. Sounds like a great idea to me. It does open up a big can of worms though. Pun intended

So many rods, too little money, you mean.

Kids Fish for free AND they can learn a lot from the seminars that are they are going to have. MAKO Fly Fishers will be doing the fly tying and will also be giving away, one complete fly rod outfit to one lucky child. Oh yes, I just about forgot...The fishing will be great too.

Tim, What is the name of the reel in this photo? http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u294/ti...nt=AAAtrout.jpg

The fish kill was below Pensacola Dam on the Grand River. They do think it was because of low DO. I don't think it will affect the Elk River.

Here is a perfect example of what low DO can do to a tailwater area. http://tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?ar...3_1__OKLAH75322

I noticed that one of the advertisers on the forum was looking for celebrities, so I took it upon myself to sign you up. Let us know how it goes. http://www.cmt.com/shows/dyn/ty-murrays-ce...ge/series.jhtml PS I don't think Marsha knows anything about this yet. If I were you, I would break it to her slowly.

Roaring River caught a break, but who knows how long it will last. Funny, how a notarized signature can hold up a job. http://www.joplinglobe.com/local/local_story_212123220.html

Jerod, I saw where you were looking at a TiCrX. That rod is really, really fast. The TiCr is a notch below that on the casting scale. Also, don't let the reel size's keep you from going up a size that is bigger than your rod. I like the extra weight to be in the butt end of the rod. I don't seem to get as tired, casting big streams all day or night.

Two thumbs up! Congratulation Terry, and especially momma too.