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That's part of the reason I got a spot in CG1. Nice firepit and grass! Will pull out in the morning at 0800. If everything works out may have to try and hit the river in the afternoon.

How about Campground 1 hook ups for the pads?

Looks like my thread was hijacked by grass. "park on pavement?" Most of the campsites are covered with sand an silt, how about doing something about that? Especially when there is a toad strangler. Try leaping from the bottom step of your trailer to dry ground. You better be an Olympian to make it. If you haven't had that experience your in for a treat. My wife (all 5'6" of her) reminds me to put the trailer as far starboard that I can at the campsite in case there are rainy conditions. I've seen times that there are many "house boats" in the park. Would be nice if they would clean it out and put another layer of asphalt on top to bring the pad level up. Plus fix the existing problem with the Homers hogging all the spots for days on end!!

I heard if you Piss her off at home and make her chase you around helps with her therapy!! Or she will run you out and you can go fishing!!!

Darn Jerry sorry to hear that. I feel your pain. Fingers crossed for her recovery. I remember back years ago Dad had a couple. With therapy he was able to recover.

Good to hear upstream!! Sent you a text. Does Danny need to bring any extra wood?

I'm going to jump on the band wagon and join the fun. Talked my running buddy into it as well, so I guess we will drag the 5'er down on Tuesday and spend the rest of the week. Was surprised that CG1 had spots left!! Had an Attorney buddy talk me into it this year. Who knows maybe there will be a NoLuck or Upstream sighting?? Or maybe Jerry may show his scruffy face???

NoLuck, Seriously if I can tie them you surely can (and yes I called you Surely). Hardest part is the hook up with the little suckers.

Was down the week prior to close of Catch and Keep, as well as weekend. Park was packed and talked with several others about the park filling up during the week. During a conversation with several locals they told me that the DNR decided to put in a new CG 5. It will be located at the farthest end by the new shower house, other side of CG 4. Before I left on Sunday there was equipment delivered down there. Hopefully that will help the overcrowding. I like Montauk but after experiencing the poor fishing this past visit and the crowded atmosphere I'm inclined to keep my allegiance at Bennett and save me 2 hours of drive time.

Send me a PM and I'll swap info with you. I do well at BSSP fly fishing but recently have switched to Montauk because my Wife likes it better. Need to get my game on there. Pat

My wife and I towed our 5th wheel down to Montauk for a weeks getaway. Just happened to be week before Labor Day weekend. No, we did not have reservations but never have had trouble the first part of the week getting a first come first serve spot. That was almost a mistake!! I was amazed that all the first come were gone. There were a few overnight spots available so we took one. I trolled around on my bike and found a first come that 2 fellows were going to leave the next day on. Stopped and talked, they were happy to let me know when they were going to pull out the next day. As I was trolling I found several first come spots that did not have a tag on the post but they had everything from a car parked, utility trailer, travel trailer and lawn chair etc. saving the spot. I understand the lawn chair or cooler to save it while you go get your tag but no one was around. In fact several sat uninhabited for the entire day. I asked the CG Host about no one being around and the car and trailer were there early in the morning. He confirmed my suspicion, someone either local or an existing camper was saving it. I complained that they were there all day long, no one was around to pay for it hence wasting the spot for someone else that needed it. He just shrugged his shoulders and said that's the way it is. I later confirmed what I thought about the locals. A guy pulled up to the site next to me. The campers were leaving that day so he pulled a little tiny dome tent out of the bed of his truck and put it on their site. They agreed to put it in the drive when they left around noon. Around 5 here comes the guy back with his TT and family. Back in and set up. Seemed to be really nice family had a nice conversation and I found out that he was from a neighboring town around 20 minutes away. He came by a day before during lunch break and saw that the campers were leaving next day. The next day he came by with his baby tent during lunch and dumped it out reserving the site. Ok at this point MSDC I have to pull the bull$%^& card. There needs to be time limit on this kind of crap. If it's first come first serve then do it, not let all the locals hog the spots that other taxpayers can't get!! No complaints if they were paying for the spot and putting a tag on it. Yes they ultimately pay for that day, but lets get fair about it. The MSDC talks about making their State Parks available to everyone, then do it! Here's my question does anyone out there have contact information for the person(s) that set the rules? I would like to draft a letter voicing my concerns. Rant off. Pat

I have heard that cottonmouths are aggressive, watersnakes not so much. The one I encountered didn't want to give an inch. Usually they will duck down into the water and swim away. He raised up in the water an acted like he was going to go Spider Monkey crazy on me!!

Good info. Not a friend or enemy of snakes, just don't like the "all of a sudden" kind. While down at Montauk last month I had what I thought was a water snake try to take me on. He didn't want to move away as I was working my way up stream along the bank. Looked alot like a copperhead. Is there a quick way to tell the differance without looking at their slotted vs round eye pupils?

Well Jerry I hope you do well. NoLuck and I fished thursday PM at Montauk. Karen and I ran down (5 hours) to spend 6 days. Setting here with a stream in my back yard looking out the 5th wheel picture window (earlier). NoLuck said they got a bunch of rain up there (BSSP). We didn't get anything here at Montauk. I'm not getting the hang of Montauk. Rich did ok, but the water is very skinny. The weather has been really nice you should have a good week. Headed north tomorrow.

Dang Jerry, you don't make it easy on a guy! Stuck home working, wife wants to get away when she gets back into town. Looked at on-line reservations and every park in Missouri is full for the first week of Sept. Must be the end of the year rush before school starts (but it already has). Can always take the chance for CG5!

Wednesday southbound, ready to freeeeeballll!

Had an Oriole the other day on the HB feeder. My sweety bought a Oriole feeder so I put it out with the HB's that we have. He hasn't been back. Any suggestions about drawing the Orioles back? First year that I know of that I have had Orioles.

Yesterday, Detective Brad Lancaster, a Kansas City Kansas Police officer was killed while assisting Patrol officers locate a suspicious subject near the Kansas Speedway. Detective Lancaster located the suspect, engaged him and was shot multiple times wounding him by the suspect who was recently released from prison. Detective Lancaster later died at KU Med Center from his injuries. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/kansas-city-kansas-police-detective-fatally-shot/ My heartfelt condolences go out to all of his family and KCK PD family for their loss.

I remember someone mentioned that the "dredges" or company they use was booked throughout the winter into spring. Hopefully the DNC was able to get on to their calendar.

Enjoyed my time last week at BSSP. Didn't know it was free fishing for kids but that didn't pose a problem. Biggest problem was trying to negotiate the "new" stream after all the flooding this past winter/spring. Pretty bad when you can walk to the far side of the bank at the island (that isn't there). As well as walk all the way to the dam at the long gone stripping hole. The gravel backfill is really bad and will only get worse. Anyone have any insight about what the plans are to dredge if there are any? This stream is in really bad shape from arch bridge up to spring.

Enjoyed my time last week at BSSP. Didn't know it was free fishing for kids but that didn't pose a problem. Biggest problem was trying to negotiate the "new" stream after all the flooding this past winter/spring. Pretty bad when you can walk to the far side of the bank at the island (that isn't there). As well as walk all the way to the dam at the long gone stripping hole. The gravel backfill is really bad and will only get worse. Anyone have any insight about what the plans are to dredge if there are any? This stream is in really bad shape from arch bridge up to spring.

Thanks for the report bassfisher! We had a front come through up here. Nice attempt to get the train back on the track . From what I saw in the weather reports it is suppose to get stable after Wednesday and temps are coming up. And yes ramman 123 your right.

I'm so envious of you!! We pulled our 5th wheel out from KC Mo in Mid-April. Trip was a family visit in Asheville and my son in Winston-Salem. We camped at Pisgah National Park outside of Asheville. Very beautiful campground and location. Wondered about the fishing but didn't get a chance to check it out. Will be watching this post for an education as I will be returning some day to try it!!

Next time one of the POS' breaks into your car or steals one of your fly rods/spinning rods don't call the Ranger, Sheriff, Game Warden etc., just walk away because there is no reason to get involved or report it! When those nuckleheads break the conservation laws its victimizing all of us. Especially the ones that do it in front of their kids. Maybe if you do report the violators then maybe it will be that one time that they do catch them and have been trying to for some time. Just like the POS that I watched breaking into cars down at the gauge house. Told a Park Ranger who passed through what I saw and an hour later they had him. Been trying to get him for some time but no body would call or observed anything! We can't do it all by ourselves (Law Enforcement) we don't shut off the light when our shift is over we continue to do the job even when we are off duty. It would help ALOT if "John Q Citizen" would be more involved rather than turning a blind eye to problems. Or the time when a car load of meth heads pulled in camping. Crap everywhere, obviously out of their element. Talked with a Park Ranger friend who checked it out. Funny it was a couple from Jeff City that were on the run from many Felony warrants. They got a new camping spot at Jeff! So talking to and reporting suspicious things sometimes pays off! Rant off!

I guess they're too busy watching for nudity and alcohol violations on the river. I guarantee that's where I would be also!! If you have a choice of getting a free shot or mess with a "jackwagon" it's a no brainer. I say we start taking pics of the violators and start a wall of shame on here!! Actually I believe the conservation agents cell numbers and names are posted on Weavers site. I'm with you NoLuck, it's very convenient for me as well. I have friends that I have made over the years that I like to see and harass. Actually if the pull wasn't so far I would prefer to go to Montauk. For me it's a good 5 to 6 hour pull where BSSP is 3.5 hours. Plus like you (NoLuck) and Upstream, I have fond memories from my childhood of that place. It's not the same as it was but it's still Bennett. Thanks for the report Allstar1 Maybe I will see you guys this weekend?