Wayne SW/MO

looks like the weather will shine on you. Have a good one.

Congratulations to you both. I assume this is a 20 you're going to keep.

This happens to me, more often than not, and drives me nuts.

The reasoning behind it is somewhat bogus. The reasoning is that the land takes the place of what would be private enterprise which in turn would provide taxes. The problem with that is that most of this land has been worthless for anything bit hunting and fishing, that is until people decided to retire on rocky tree covered slopes. The feds need to continue to provide funds to help the rural schools. They wanted to be involved in the schools bad enough to wiggle in passed the Constitution, so now they need to give more than lip service. If we can rebuild Coliseums and Superdomes, we can help out rural schools.

Because you have a 5wt, you would probably want to step up to a 7wt.

The guy needs to contact the authorities.

I'm not familiar with the NE fly box, but I'm sure many of them would be effective here. While the Trout here can be aggravating and picky at times, they aren't too sophisticated. You will defiantly need Scuds and Midges. The midges in all stages from larvae to dry. Depending on where you fish, the shops in the area would be a good source of advice.

My advice is just use the feature to fit your needs. I too had a problem remembering to use the feature at times. The most obvious is to check the back side of the fly.

1) definatly Comets 2) shrimp, but I don't know the pattern ( We don't have no Bonefish here 3) tent wing Caddis, but pattern? 4) The "Is it a fly?" 5) Trude. Well I only know 2 out of 5

Phil, maybe you should think about setting a date.

I would throw jerkbaits and hair jigs and I would probably look for deeper holes, with wood preferably. Be careful at the 125 put in, there is some slab rock there that is as slick as it gets.

They shouldn't allow it to just because the prosecution rate is very low. I wouldn't think too many people would want to come back to Taney county and go to court, win or lose. Hoover the White river emerges when they aren't generating and I think the flow proves that. I would think that signs describing shuffling, pointing out the damage it can cause, and telling people they can be ticketed for it, wouldn't hurt.

I was kind of surprised it wasn't legal because it was comman when I was a youngster. I never did it because of the fear I would find a big Snapper, which were comman then also. Many question whether of not the Flathead population is out of balance , because they have no predators aside from man, they eat live fish and they're capable of taking some large fish.

It takes many years for a SMB to mature in a stream to spawning size, it then takes a certain weather pattern for them to be successful in the spawn, and then a few might make it to spawning size and repeat the process, but they will be susceptible to extermination for several years before that occurs. Given the fact that any recovery will take years, it can't be put aside while lesser problems are addressed.

Well we are at record low levels in some streams and that will help any predator. Unfortunately the only cure for streams that have lost their fish populations seems to be time. I don't believe the MDC has had any success in stocking streams, nor do they have the fish to do it with. I'm not a fan of full speed ahead on wildlife issues. Its alot like rolling dice, but the losses sometimes plague us for decades. If we were to bring back every animal, we would have Bears, Wolves and Elk roaming the hills.

No it isn't in my opinion, but I wish it were because it would be the easiest to control. The threat to the watersheds themselves are the biggest single problem we face. You don't have to float far on any stream to find a high dirt bank that is falling in because cultivation has been carried on too close. The massive gravel bars and the lack of deep water in many streams is a sign of civilization that has unearthed ancient gravel and allowed it to find its way into the stream beds. The lack of water cooling willows is in most cases a product of hungry cattle, who also wade in streams deeply disturbing stream beds, not to mention adding nutrients. And then there are the nutrients, not just from feces, but chemicals from lawns, golf courses and other places that need to be green to be acceptable. Then there's the chemicals leached from everything from roofing to vehicle exhaust and the list goes on. Its a problem too big for even government, its a problem that only the population can solve, if they ever decide too.

Obscure, well I tie one by slipping Red Larvae Lace over an 18 or 20 3906B style hook and ribbing it with red Krystal Flash. It gives a different look and resembles the worm like midge lavae.

I haven't found it any different then any other place. it all depends on the time and the day, and whether you're in the right place at the right time.

I've spent a lot of time in Oklahome, have two kids who are natives, and have fished most of the lakes. Texoma is one of my all time favorites, but I've heard its changes a lot. Are the big Willow stands still in the Washita arm? I have to confess that I'm an avid OU fan, and have been since the days of Bud W.

I believe much of the Otter problem may be exaggerated by environmental, and climate problems. I've be well aware of Otters on two rivers that I frequented, both out of state and I never saw any evidence of harm, nor sport killing. Strangely I've seen them eat fish on several occasions, and it was always SMB, but the river was famous for its population of SMB. Its seems that for every area that they are suspected of decimating or causing harm, there are areas where they exist, and cause no harm. The bottom line is that man is the biggest single reason for the majority of declines in wildlife, and not as a political entity, but as individuals.

I think those are things that fall under "You can't have your cake and eat it too". I know there were places when i was in the Northwest that were off limits too me, because of preservation regulations. I suppose the bottom line is as Al say, Life isn't always fair. I hate to start on the canoe situation because my blood pressure rises when I think about it. I watched the explosion on the Niangua and to add insult to injury, the state jumped on the bandwagon and was one of the first. I still think the DNR could pull the plug and let those who got into the show after about 1990 depreciate their boats out and then fall back to a predetermined number.

I think thats just another reason to use a rod that can be handled with the tip very near the water. If you keep too much line airborne, it can kill you on the pause.

I was there this afternoon, i went down to say hi to Simsmarine and his friend who are down for the weekend. I thought the crowd, if thats the word, was light considering the weather.

Yes they do. I was kind of disappointed that they moved because I tie, and they were real close, but their loss is Phil's gain.

It would be nice if MDC would read the thread and comment, because there were some points made in which there was little to no opposition.