I doubt that the kids will even float unless I can get another boat. Just too cheap to rent one for the day! lol They really don't care that much about it to be honest. Yeah, I really don't want to get overcrowded either. She will like the hot water and potties, but the kids and I don't really care. Bobber, you talking about taking 412 out of Springdale heading east? That was the way I was thinking about going also. Keep the ideas coming though.