Big Brown Trout

well I would suggest a flyrod and some of these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itvzJqL0mw0 but my opinion is a little biased.

wow so I guess that's a no from most people, I was looking at tube flies a while back (not sure if I am going to tie them or not. ((I need a boat!!)) ) what do you want for them Scott? (if you still have them).

lol I know, me to. yeah I agree about the ponds. I can't seem to find any decent ones. (for bass)

I'm so glad I got in on this swap this year.

don't worry Jim I don't either by "trip" I thought you meant all fishing total. If I change spots or bodies of water but in the same day I still consider it the same trip. And though it was only partial my point ,yes in the game of fishing more patience is something we can all benefit from. As far as your comment on hitting only a few spots, for me personally if I am with my wife all I can usually get her to cover is maybe a football field length of river. Tops. Now if I am on foot, I can usually cover miles. And that is nearly all wading and walking. Don't worry man stick with it and you'll see your number improve.

nice Buzz,i liked the footage, had to mute the music though. heres one I like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APx3X9NnEo8

this easily could be part of your problem the shortest fishing trip I have taken this year was 3 hours. know your prey, know your gear, learn to read water. these are the keys to better fishing. and also be patient. you don't have to get a flyrod to catch trout, but I would be more open to trying lures over bait. my wife always uses bait and I always use flies and typically I almost always outfish her. This isn't because flies are necessarily better, but I know how to use them in a way that brings out a fishes aggression. In any predatory fish this can be key, now with catfish or other scavengers don't worry to much about this. My best luck with catfish has been using live shad. just study your trips, be aware of what you did or more importantly did not do and learn from it. Like anything else you get better with experience and study. every time I have fished the last few weeks I have NOT found fish clinging to structure. sometimes they are there sometimes they are not, keep your eyes open and you will see signs of fish. also don't neglect shade. I have found more fish hugging the line between light and shade on the surface of the water than I have under logs or rocks.

thanks for the info guys, I tied a test out of scrap materials so as soon as I get a chance i'll fling it out and see what happens.

as far as I can tell the hook I use is very similar to the B10S, I couldn't find any of these when I went to buy hooks. I was thinking to myself the primary problem was probably to much dub on the bottom, will this give problems to? thanks for the advice MoTroutBum

thanks guys I will try this out and see how it goes. the hook I am using is an eagle claw #1 baitholder (forgot which number). It is offset but I use the vise to bend it back into alignment before I tie. I have also been working with less laser dub some of these in the photo are sparser than others, yet for some reason in this pic they all look super bulky. will the strips of lead affect the action or just wrapping it like Lancer talked about? yeah I wanted to do that, I didn't have any on hand though, in the future though for sure

yep here you go, they don't look to terrible dry, but in the water they really come alive.

My wife and I decided to forgo sleep and instead take to the creek early this morning. It was a perfect day for putting the fly rod to work (My wife kept it simple and used good old worms). So after grabbing some coffee we headed down to the Tipton ford access. I started off with a frog fly I tied last night, after this failed I switched to my wedding veils. Unfortunately I ran into problems with this flies performance,( I wish now I had taken the time to try out all of them hopefully the single fly I tried is the only faulty one.) after getting very unnatural action I decided to switch flies and try the crawfish fly I tied a few weeks ago. It is based on the Near 'Nuff Crayfish with some variations that I found appealing when I tied them. I was unsure of how they would act in the water, and oh my god was I surprised. The action the fly made in the water was as real as any crawdad I have ever seen, and the bass must have agreed, it was all I could do to keep them off my fly. I had great fun locating feeding bass and flinging it to them , hooking several this way. My favorite moment was when we both hooked up at the same time with two good bass. Today was a great day not only did both of us catch our first spotted bass each, but I also caught my personal best bass. I have no idea on size or weight but it was a pretty good bass. The action was short though, after about an hour things died down. We gave it a couple more hours then called it. Short but sweet with no complaints.

so as far as I can tell my tie of the wedding veil is pretty decent. The version I tie is similar to what Brian Wise tied in his video only thing is its action isn't 100% what I want. When the fly does stay upright its perfect, there is a great sexy little wiggle that I am sure bigger fish would be hard pressed to resist, but then we enter the problem area, It doesn't always stay in the correct position. Every third or fourth retrieve it would start to lop sideways, which if I wasn't retrieving looked great as It looked just like a dying perch, problem was when I retrieved it, it wouldn't always right itself, coming toward me turned on its side. Has anyone fished these, or does anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this issue. I was hoping maybe Brian or someone else could toss me some insight. Is there someway I can put a keel on these?? Here is a sample of what they turned out like: Please ignore the pink case latches, the craft aisle version of this tacklebox was a dollar and half cheaper at Wal-Mart.

I can Lancer, but I have tied half of them already. I'm doing Baby Brown trout Wedding Veils.

she was dead on 15 inches.( looks smaller in the photo the tail bends back toward me) would have liked her to be bigger but sadly she wasn't, however she did go great with lemon and butter. My Grandma told me when she was kid she always used to catch brown trout in hickory creek, she's in her 70's though. (I read originally the Neosho hatchery raised browns.)

My thought exactly.

well, I have caught them so I don't know what you tell you. Also this is the second year in a row that I have spotted them there. Could be they came from RR, I can't say. Now I'm not saying they are common or consistent, but it has happened. Like catching a bluegill at RR, sometimes it happens. the pudding:

trust me they do stock browns in Hickory. Not often and only on "big" days like kids fishing, but if you are interested you can usually snag a couple of the left overs. This year I saw at least five or six the day after the kids fishing but those fish were so gun shy they wouldn't even eat bait. Last year I stalked a good sized one for over a month but someone else got him first. Like Buzz said, Capps has more, but let's be honest, If you want browns just go to Taney.

lol wow, I have never seen someone fight a bass from above. very humorous, thanks for the share.

yeah your basic assumptions are pretty good. definitely move a lot. If a spot is hard for you to get to it's probably hard for others to fish. these spots will usually have fish in them. This time of the year as hot and sunny as it is most fish will not be very active in the majority of the daytime. if you really want to find them at these hours fish around undercut banks, in the shade, and around brush. (not just crappie like brush). another tip is if I see people using a certain bait or fly, I don't use it. I always offer the fish something else, and usually out-fish the other people around me this way. and don't get frustrated. everyone has a skunk day. it is part of fishing.

how do you kill a company? go public.

the first thing you have to do is decide what type of fish you want to catch. are you just blindly flinging bait into water and hoping? or are you after something in particular. If for example you are after catfish (I noticed you mentioned them twice) you need to learn all you can about that species. I don't really baitfish, but when I do I take multiple baits. Just because you catch one on a worm or on chicken liver does NOT mean you always will. I am just going to assume from what you typed you are after catfish and give you advice for that. 1.Know your species. not all fish live in all water, and not all fish can be caught the same way. while worms and minnows will catch most fish, they won't always. you typically won't find smallmouth and cats in the same water just like you really don't find trout and largemouths in much of the same water, but you can find trout and smallmouth in the same water. read everything about the type of fish you want to catch and you will become much better at catching those fish. 2. multiple baits (minnows, worms, shad, cut perch, mackerel) 3. what time of day are you fishing. Night? Morning? this really matters. just like humans fish don't eat every second of the day just because they can. target fish at dawn or dusk, and for cats definitely try night fishing. 4. if you are shore fishing ( and not for cats) I personally suggest you do not use baits. if you are moving over uneven terrain or wading, trying to keep bait alive or fresh can be difficult. hard baits and spinners or better yet flies are great for moving a lot. 5. if you can, try and hit fish at their spawns. hitting crappie, trout, white bass, and catfish at their spawning times can make for some pretty easy fishing. 6.if you have trouble detecting bites, try circle hooks. they aren't a sure thing but when they hook they do work. 7. ask another experienced angler to take you fishing. Ness hit that right on the head. 8. learn to read water and understand the habitats fish live in. brush, pocket water, eddies, seams. these are where you need to look. careful study of fish is the only way to become a better fisherman. My new years resolution for this year was to catch a full limit of fish. (which I had never done before). I currently have caught 6 this year.

dropped in at Lilly's Landing today and dropped some dough on materials, getting ready boys!

true the last two trout I kept swallowed my stonefly so deep I had no choice.

indian creek -when the water is up shoal -same elk -on weekdays.