I read an article in a dentist office once about a man who had almost lost his mojo for fly fishing. He had been several times and no luck to speak of. He recalled an old man at a fly shop talking about a muddler pattern, so he had purchased one. Upon arriving to the stream with no hopes he tried the muddler On the first riffle and much to his surprise he caught a fish... this story brought the muddler to my attention and I followed suit with the man from article . I then found Dave's hopper another spun deer hair pattern. Both terrestrial gold in my opinion. Its good to see everyone's differences and similarities on these patterns.