Hmm it all depends on I they want to bite I use grubs and jigs and but i slowley bring it up and let it drop and reel in the slack. And at first it was hard for me but I like to throw under logs and we're the rocks start to slop to deep water have caught a few good fish that way. Try the small minnow a red or green one. How I rig it and mc sports has this rig we're it's a small worm that had a blade on it and has a red bead I frogot what it's called but it works ready well. It's a red worm I know they have it I bought one the other day don't get the big worm use the small one