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  1. Very few days where you're going to find everyone not catching fish in a day... but today was that day here. Guides said it was tough... guests said it was tough... I took a couple of guys from 2-5 pm and it was tough. We caught 5 rainbows on white or white/gray jigs within a 1/4 mile of the cable at the dam. Fished slack banks the rest of the way to the resort - nothing. We saw a few fish caught on flies - drifted on the bottom and under a float (fly fishing). Mainly scuds, #12' and #14's. Some fish caught in the creeks but they were crowded with boats. Sunny and beautiful... first sunny day in how many days? Might have had something to do with it.
  2. They have in the past.
  3. I had 45 last evening, up from 43 before this started.
  4. Yea the 4th turbine came back online. Says only 1,000 cfs coming over the top.
  5. Many of you have read the story of the new state record brown trout landed by resort guest Scott Sandusky two weeks ago as he drifted rainbow PowerBait by Cooper Creek with his Arnold, MO, buddies. What we haven't disclosed until recently was our special Thanksgiving blessing of fishing for and finding the lunker a second time -- this time out of a trash truck . . . At 37 inches long, 24.75 inches in girth and weighing 28.8 pounds, Scott obviously needed to mount his prize, which was roughly a pound heavier than the previous record. We needed to make a decision what to do with his brown while the Missouri Department of Conservation processed the paperwork needed to make his fish the official new state record brown trout. Clint Hale, Shepherd of the Hills Hatchery manager, told us that the fish could not be consumed or taken to a taxidermist until the paperwork was complete which would take a few weeks. So we needed to find a freezer big enough for a 40-inch fish to lay flat, since its bulk had been wrapped in towels to secure its shape. The only one we could find was in the kitchen at the First Baptist Church here in Branson, so dad and I took the fish and placed in the freezer. Honestly, I did think about labeling it somehow to identify it as belonging to someone but . . . I trusted that no one would mess with it. That was our downfall. Dad flashed the fish off in the freezer Sunday night to some fellow church-goers, at least showing off the bulk size of the fish. The towels were frozen to the skin of the trout so he couldn't back the layers, but it was still an impressive sight. On Wednesday morning, dad drove to the church to retreive the record fish to transfer it to a freezer we had. Once the fish was frozen solid, it could be stood upright, fitting into another freezer. The trout was gone. No fish in the freezer anywhere. Jerry asked in the office, but no one know about it. Then he learned of the fish's fate. It had been thrown out into the dumpster on Monday -- only to have been picked up that very Wednesday morning by the trash truck. "I've never been so down in my life as when I saw that fish was gone," Jerry said. He began asking us all to pray for a miracle, and Carolyn, my mother, even called friends to pray. I was headed to a meeting, and resigned myself to the fact that the fish was gone for sure, but dad's tenacity paid off. He called the Alllied Waste company and found out where the truck was headed, drove to Reeds Spring and met the truck there prepared for dumpster diving. The attendants there were experienced in finding the treasures people have thrown out. (Once retrieving some tossed diamond earrings.) They dumped the contents of the truck on a concrete pad and started picking through it with a small bobcat. Mom had accompanied dad for "support" and both were holding their noses and hoping they'd find the fish in decent shape, but with every move, the bobcat did not turn up any light teal-green towels or fish remains. My mom is a woman of faith. Her relationship with the Lord is astounding, and she told dad she was hearing the Lord say it was in a pile "over there." Dad had all but given up on the search, but mom pushed for one more swipe of trash in the area God was directing her to. Then she saw the towel. She waded in and dug it out. The fish was still wrapped in the towel. A small tear in its back was the only visible damage to the fish they could see. They headed back home with the trout, praising God for His constant faithfulness and mercy -- this time exhibited in finding the fish. Scott's brown trout is once again in a freezer, but this time it's in a safer place. Trout that large are actually replicated by taxidermists and not mounted in the traditional way of using the actual fish and its skin. But when the mold is made of the actual fish and a replica cast, Scott will have the mount of a lifetime, representing his "knee-shaking" treasure of a memory: Scott and his friends, Scott Hawkins, Greg Lawson and Craig Thomas, had planned to catch some keeper rainbows to fry for dinner Friday night, then hit the trophy area for lunkers on Saturday. They drifted downstream, using rainbow-colored, paste Power Bait, bumping it on the bottom as you're supposed to. Just below Cooper Creek, Scott set his rod in the rod holder to help with another rig. Thinking he saw a bite, Scott picked his rod back up, set the hook and knew -- he had something big. But he didn't know what it was . . . a catfish? A big carp? If it was a trout, it was a really, really big trout. Then they saw it. It was a brown trout. He had his spin reel set to wind backwards, not trusting the drag. Smart guy because this fish didn't want to play. The brown surged for the far bank, spinning off so much line, so fast, that it was all Scott could do release the handle and watch his line fly off his reel. Then he stopped. Working it closer to the boat, his team of anglers started to plan their attack. One retrieved the net and the other pulled up the trolling motor -- just in time. Four-pound line doesn't last long against a prop. When most people buy a fish net, they don't expect to land a 37-inch fish, right? Scott's net could hold half this fish. It flopped in, it flopped out. Then Scott's net man, Craig, muscled up and got it in the boat. All was made official by Missouri Department of Conservation officials at the Shepherd of the Hills Hatchery. Shane Bush, MDC fisheries biologist and Quenten Fronterhouse, MDC enforcement agent, both helped in this process. Clint Hale, hatchery manager, was also present. 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  6. We're heading up there in a little bit and will report back. Someone told me they shut them all but one... which makes no sense. But I'd take one over zero.
  7. No measureable rain in the 7-day forecast... rooting for a long, dry spell and let all this water drain out.
  8. There were a dozen or more people fishing by outlets 1 and 2. There should be some warmwater species above outlet 1 including walleye. But yes it's very limited.
  9. Your going to see quite a few articles posted in the coming days, mostly from Taneycomo but some on other waters, in the content section of OA. I am transferring all content from the wordpress side of OA to the IPBoard side and will drop the WP site altogether very soon. Unfortunately, I can't do this and keep it off everyone's news feeds. Thanks
  10. Yea- just don't tell anybody.
  11. I wish I knew. Chances are they came over the gates from Table Rock... but if they did, it's amazing that they are eating.
  12. Flowing through the heart of Branson, Lake Taneycomo is the most diverse fishing lake in the country, sporting world-class rainbow and brown trout as well as bass, crappie and blue gill angling. But it's most famous for its trout fishing. Why is trout fishing so consistently good year round? The Missouri Department of Conservation stocks Lake Taneycomo with about 550,000 trout annually. Stockings occur on several days of each week and are dispersed by pontoon boat throughout the lake. In the summer months, when fishing pressure is the highest, as many as 64,000 rainbows averaging 11.5 inches or longer are placed in the lake, ensuring everyone at least a chance to catch their limit of four trout daily. Both rainbows and browns are reared locally at the Shepherd of the Hills Hatchery, located just below Table Rock Dam. Article - Justification for Rainbow Trout stocking reduction in Lake Taneycomo, 12/2017 Brown trout comprise a small percentage of stocked trout in Lake Taneycomo. MDC stocks about 15,000 once a year in the spring. Browns are considered a "trophy trout" in Taneycomo and, thus, a special lake-wide regulation mandates that a brown must be 20 inches or longer to keep, and only one may be kept per day. Four total keeper trout are allowed per day with a two-day possession limit of eight trout total. Lake Taneycomo is a part of the White River Chain of Lakes. Our lower dam, Powersite, was built in 1908 and actually is the oldest hydro-electric dam built west of the Mississippi River. When Table Rock Dam was constructed in 1958, water from the bottom of the 200-foot dam was cold, thus supporting coldwater species of fish. As a federal project, the government appropriated Neosho Federal Hatchery to provide rainbow trout to the once warm water fishery. In 1957, construction of the state hatchery, Shepherd of the Hills, was started at the base of Table Rock Dam. Shepherd provides the balance of trout stocked in Taneycomo, as well as providing trout for the rest of the state's trout program. Table Rock Dam is managed by the U.S. Corps of Army Engineers. The Southwest Power Administration tells the Corps when and how much water to flow through the facility. Flow is dictated by flood control and power demand. As much as 20,000 cubic feet per second can be released through its turbines, but even more can be moved over the top of the dam through its 10 flood gates. As much as 78,000 cubic feet per second was released in the flood of 2015/16 (winter), a record release that will hopefully never be broken when Table Rock. But the highest Table Rock Lake has ever been is 935.46 feet in the flood of 2011. Water flow dictates fishing conditions and techniques. When the water is off, there is little to no current, and Taneycomo acts like a lake. But when water is released, depending on how much water is released, the current increases and water level rises -- and Taneycomo shows her river heritage. Random Information: Table Rock Dam: Elevation at the top of the spill gates is 933 feet, when the gates are closed. Of course when the gates are opened, this elevation will rise with the gates. The spill over elevation is 896 feet. The spill gates are 45 feet wide and 36 feet tall. Good Radio Program/Podcast - Outdoor Guys Radio Show featuring Phil Lilley talking about Lake Taneycomo. Fishing License and Trout Permits Before heading to the water for a fishing trip, be sure that you have the required license and permit. Anyone fishing in upper Lake Taneycomo (above State Highway 65 bridge) is required to have a trout permit. Adult trout permits (age 16 and older) cost $10 and a youth trout permit (age 15 and under) costs just $5. Both expire on March 1st following the purchase. In addition to the trout permit, a general fishing license is required for anyone 16 years and older. Non-Missouri residents can purchase a one day license for $8, or a 3 day license for $24. An annual license is also available for $49. Missouri residents can purchase their annual fishing license for just $12. Missouri residents over age 65 are not required to purchase a fishing license. Note: To KILL a trout, whether intentional or unintentional, is considered possession, so be careful. It might be safer just to buy the trout stamp. Costs: Missouri Resident Annual License is $12 Non-resident annual license is $49 Trout permits are only sold annually, and they are $10 for adults and $5 for kids under 16 years of age All Missouri licenses and permits expire on March 1 Non-resident One Day - $8 Non-resident Three Day - $24 Missouri Residents over age 65 only need a trout permit $10 Buy Missouri Fishing Licenses Online! Did you know? The name Lake Taneycomo was derived from its location in Taney, County, MO, hence Taney-co-mo. Lake Taneycomo looks like a river, but dams at both ends impound the water, making it a lake. Lake Taneycomo is one of four lakes in the chain of the White River system. Beaver, located in northwest Arkansas, is at the top of the chain, followed by Table Rock, then Taneycomo and lastly Bull Shoals. Lake Taneycomo's lower dam, Powersite, brought into service in 1913, is the oldest hydroelectric dam west of the Mississippi. Table Rock Dam was constructed in 1958. The dam's height made the water released from Table Rock cold year round, turning Taneycomo into a prime place to stock trout. The Missouri Department of Conservation's Shepherd of the Hills Hatchery stocks Taneycomo with approximately 500,000 rainbows and 15,000 browns annually. In addition, 200,000 rainbows are trucked in from the Neosho Federal Hatchery located in Neosho, Missouri. The number of rainbows stocked correlates with the fluctuating fishing pressure Taneycomo receives. In another words, 90,000 rainbows are stocked in each summer month when fishing pressure is high but only about 30,000 rainbows in each winter month, give or take a few hundred. There are four turbines located at Table Rock Dam. Two warning horns are located below the dam to warn anglers of impending water release. Water levels can rise as much as 12 feet below the dam, and the currents can be swift. Be wise and be safe. The current Missouri state record brown trout was also caught on Lake Taneycomo on September 4, 2019 by local fishing guide, Bill Babler. It weighed 40 pounds and 6 ounces, measuring 41 inches long. It was caught on a Berkley's pink worm fished under a float, 6x tippet which is less than 4-pound test. Here's a link to the story. The second brown trout Missouri state record was caught on Lake Taneycomo on February 23, 2019 by Paul Crews of Neosho, Missouri. It weighed 34 pounds, 10 ounces, measuring 38 inches long, 27 inch girth. It was caught on an 1/8th ounce sculpin colored jig, 4-pound line. It was released successfully and this brown, named Frank, has been seen and videoed many times since. Some years back, the dock manager at Lilleys' Landing Resort & Marina retrieved a dead brown trout floating above the dock. After measuring and weighing the dead fish, it was determined that it would have been a world record, measuring 44 inches long. The story made the Paul Harvey radio show. State Record Fish on Lake Taneycomo: White Sucker - Four pounds, eight ounces caught Nov. 19, 1990, by James E. Baker Jr. of Reeds Spring, MO Brown Trout - 34 pounds, 10 ounces caught February 23, 2019, by Paul Crews of Neosho, MO.
  13. A better question is how long will it take to clean the upper end out of junk that's washed in. Any time they run MORE water than usual, whether it's from generation or gates, there's stuff from the bottom and edges that gets washed in... and down. That's what is happening now. Me and Duane are heading up shortly. I think it will be cleared up by the time we get up there. The rest of the lake - from here to the dam - will take a while - may be the rest of the day. We will give a report. But we plan to catch a lot of fish...
  14. In the short term, yes. But you should see bigger trout because of the influx of food.
  15. 3 units are running. TR 916.4 feet Taney 710.7 feet 15,017 cfs
  16. Tony Wedele just called me and said there's 5 flood gates open at Table Rock Dam. TR's lake level is at 916.31 feet and rising about a tenth every hour. Beaver is rising about the same, may be a little faster. This is the first time I've ever seen the Corps open gates AHEAD of rising water. I don't want to say unprecedented but it may be the cast, and a change in operating procedure. They don't usually open the gates unless TR hits 920 feet. I've asked Tony to get a water temp and to look for any shad that should be coming over the top.
  17. Looks like the Beaver area got the brunt of the rain. I see 5 inches in some places down there. 3.5 to 4 inches up here.
  18. Does anyone have any pictures of the river I can use for OAF and the St. Francis River section? Thanks
  19. Paul said the whites were above 10c bridge, in and above the first shoal. I guess it's tough getting past that shoal right now.
  20. Someone at the Corp must have gotten the valve at the dam jambed because the flow hasn't varied much in a while. That's not a bad thing though. Most of us like this slow flow - anywhere from 1,200 to 2,500 c.f.s.. Water temp remains about 44 degrees. There's been several things working here for trout. The Berkley pink Powerworm has been the hottest bait for most anglers, drifting and fishing it under a float 5-6 feet deep from Short Creek down past our dock. Minnows are selling like crazy and they're not using them to fish for crappie! Babler said he drifted them from Fall to Short Creek and caught some nice rainbows. They're using them down around Monkey Island too and doing well. Night crawlers too, in the same streches. They're still hitting spoons - Cleos and Kastmasters. If you've been on social media today you would have seen this picture of Jack Harris and his trophy 25-inch brown caught today on a blue and silver Cleo near the mouth of Cooper Creek. Duane has had some guide trips as well as taking some friends fishing this past week. He's done well throwing jigs in the trophy area - white and white/gray 1/16th ounce up closer to the dam and sculpin/ginger from Lookout to Fall Creek with the Narrows being the hottest area by far. He's using 2-pound line to throw the small jigs. He also had a fly fishing tour this morning in which his clients caught decent numbers on gray scuds under a float. But did the best stripping a sculpin pine squirrel in the Narrows area. It doesn't look like we're going to get the big rain they'd forecasted ealier in the week. Most of the rain will soak in seeing our ground is now pretty dry. We could see a bump in lake levels in which the dam operators may turn up the flow a bit but nothing major... unless they miss their estimates. We'll see.
  21. Lemon Law? Find a good lawyer/angler and have them send Mercury a letter...
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