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Clip from a drone shot at the Narrows and at Lookout. Putting together some instructional video showing channels and gravel bars. Turned out pretty cool so far.
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I posted it as an article but didn't show up on the LT forum. I have no details... they took it to Cooper Creek. May be that's where they were staying.
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Ladies and Gents please enjoy your copy of the Winter 2018 edition of the Missouri Smallmouth Alliance's magazine, The Bronzeback News. It contains some great articles from new members as well as notices about fun activities we have coming up in both February and March. Click the link below to read it. Thanks for your membership and participation! Winter 2018 Bronzeback News
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Got out Sunday afternoon and dirty water never looked so good. Love it WT was 44, Rigging .2-.3 mph, using 1/2oz double minnow rigs in 5-8 fow, around 5 feet down for the most part. The bite was a hit and run a lot of times. Made for not getting good hook sets. Pop offs all day. That or they just kind of made out with the minnow. 😂 Really had to be patient with grabbing the rod out of the holder to set the hook. You’ll eventually see the line go at an angle. Then set the thing quick. Not too many would hammer it and bury the rod tip. Wish I would of got more quality size minnows. They want the bigger beefier minnow. Like 3” They survived the two week ice age🤪. Ended with 14 Pics below, God Bless View full article
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Shane Bush just sent me their Table Rock study for 2017. Link Here View full article
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Want giant brown trout in the Ozarks? Strip the big stuff.
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It was supposed to be a memorable trout fishing birthday trip for his brother. But on the last day of a cold and windy outing at Lake Taneycomo, Ken Adam is the one who got a gift he'll never forget. Adam, fishing Monday with brother Steve in an adjacent boat, said he was almost ready to call it a day because of the lousy weather and murky water when he flipped a white and purple McStick lure up close to a floating log. <READ MORE>
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Good point.
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Did something I haven't done in a long time. Living this close to this water and not fishing it, wading it, would be considered a sin in most fly fishermen's book but fortunately I live by another book. It was, though, nice to see and fish again. Ryan Walker, a long time friend, called and asked by if I wanted to go wade fishing below the dam. No, first he asked me what I was doing. He caught me between projects... I said nothing. So when he asked me to meet him at the Rebar Hole, I didn't have a good out. Me? An out for fishing? In my old age, I think I'm become more of a work-a-holic than a fisherman. Ryan was already catching when I arrived. We parked at the lot to the south and above Rebar. He had one on when I dropped over the edge down to the water. We walked on up to the area across from hatchery outlet #2. He had on a P&P Zebra with a gray scud dropper under a float and caught 3 more rainbows before I got rigged. I tied on a #16 green butt soft hackle. It's a fly tied by legend fishing guide John Berry. He lives and guides on the White River. There is a pretty good current in that area now. I was pleasantly surprised. The last time I had fished this spot (pre 2017 flood) there was very little movement. It has deepened too, and you reall have to watch the area around the boulders placed there by MDC to create fish habitat -- the wash around them is big and deep. Anyhow, rainbows like the soft hackle. It stripped it short and fast and they hit it. I stripped it long and slow and they hit it. I let it just drift in the current and they hit it. And they hit it hard! Ryan was hooking up on rainbows too. This was a male that had been working the gravel. You can see outlet #2 in the background. I also tried a zebra/scud combo. I had a #16 red Zebra tied over a #20 dark brown camel scud (Leonard Keeney ties them). They really like the scud. We worked down to the top of Rebar. Ryan wanted to try down at Rocking Chair, and we had time before the sun dropped behind the bluff so we walked out and drove to the parking lot further down the access road. We opted to start at the end of the path. I tied on a scud duo -- a #14 tan Trout Crack over a #18 gray scud and set the float deeper than I had it uplake. The water seemed to be much deeper there and I wanted the scuds close if not on the bottom. I caught 5 rainbows before moving down to the gravel bar. We ended our evening throwing soft hackles, although they would cooperate for me as much as they did Ryan. I don't know how many fish we caught and it doesn't matter. We caught up on family and fishing... and talked about his work and fishing excusions. And it was good to fish the tailwater again. Hope I won't be the stranger any longer.
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Did something I haven't done in a long time. Living this close to this water and not fishing it, wading it, would be considered a sin in most fly fishermen's book but fortunately I live by another book. It was, though, nice to see and fish again. Ryan Walker, a long time friend, called and asked by if I wanted to go wade fishing below the dam. No, first he asked me what I was doing. He caught me between projects... I said nothing. So when he asked me to meet him at the Rebar Hole, I didn't have a good out. Me? An out for fishing? In my old age, I think I'm become more of a work-a-holic than a fisherman. Ryan was already catching when I arrived. We parked at the lot to the south and above Rebar. He had one on when I dropped over the edge down to the water. We walked on up to the area across from hatchery outlet #2. He had on a P&P Zebra with a gray scud dropper under a float and caught 3 more rainbows before I got rigged. I tied on a #16 green butt soft hackle. It's a fly tied by legend fishing guide John Berry. He lives and guides on the White River. There is a pretty good current in that area now. I was pleasantly surprised. The last time I had fished this spot (pre 2017 flood) there was very little movement. It has deepened too, and you reall have to watch the area around the boulders placed there by MDC to create fish habitat -- the wash around them is big and deep. Anyhow, rainbows like the soft hackle. It stripped it short and fast and they hit it. I stripped it long and slow and they hit it. I let it just drift in the current and they hit it. And they hit it hard! Ryan was hooking up on rainbows too. This was a male that had been working the gravel. You can see outlet #2 in the background. I also tried a zebra/scud combo. I had a #16 red Zebra tied over a #20 dark brown camel scud (Leonard Keeney ties them). They really like the scud. We worked down to the top of Rebar. Ryan wanted to try down at Rocking Chair, and we had time before the sun dropped behind the bluff so we walked out and drove to the parking lot further down the access road. We opted to start at the end of the path. I tied on a scud duo -- a #14 tan Trout Crack over a #18 gray scud and set the float deeper than I had it uplake. The water seemed to be much deeper there and I wanted the scuds close if not on the bottom. I caught 5 rainbows before moving down to the gravel bar. We ended our evening throwing soft hackles, although they would cooperate for me as much as they did Ryan. I don't know how many fish we caught and it doesn't matter. We caught up on family and fishing... and talked about his work and fishing excusions. And it was good to fish the tailwater again. Hope I won't be the stranger any longer. View full article
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Phil Lilley replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Official Ozark Anglers Fantasy Fishing League 2018's Topics
I'll delete this "club" in a couple of days. I just wanted to see how it worked. -
I guess the creator creates the topics. Then members can post on topics. You do have several choices of privacy when creating a club too... up to being hidden from the forum as a whole. You guys can form your club and share spots!
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I bought this app a while back and never done anything with it. It's called "clubs" and honestly I don't know much about it. But anyone can form or create a club by going to the club link in the header bar and create. I guess it's like a group on Facebook. I created a club just to see if I could - Official Ozark Anglers Fantasy Fishing League 2018 Play around with it if you want. Could be a cool thing if used properly.
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Generation on Lake Taneycomo has followed the variance of temperature. When it's cold, dam operators have been running water pretty hard, but as soon as it gets warmer, they throttle it down. It's running harder early in the mornings and back on after dark, but instead of no flow during the day, it's been running at a strange 10 megawatts, 703 feet or less than 1,000 c.f.s. It's strange because this level is rare -- and they ran it all last weekend! Today, though, the water is all the way off. Water temp - 45.3 degrees. Last Friday, the hatchery stocked rainbows, lots of rainbows. And they stocked them off the access ramp down below the Landing close to where they keep their stocking boat. Some of our tournament guys saw them dump the trout in . . . and word go out. I guess it was pretty crowded Saturday morning during the Masters Tournament. And quite a few of the rainbows caught were pretty decent, not the little ones we've been seeing most of the winter. Those newly stocked rainbows like to chase. So throwing something shiny you can retrieve was the key. Spoons, rooster tails, jigs, jigs and float all worked well. Anglers caught trout from that area up through the Landing. Since then, it's been reported a lot of those fish have moved up and are being caught around Monkey Island. One of our guides fished up in Turkey and Roark creeks last week and said the creeks were full of trout. He caught his fish on the Berkley pink worm on a small jig head, under a float. Anglers this week are fishing with Powerbait and doing pretty well. They said they're catching a lot of little ones. I've fly fished and thrown a jig-and-float on outings this week. I've seen the same thing . . . lots of 10- to 12-inchers from Lookout Island all the way down and below Short Creek. I tried a Zebra Midge - #16 olive green and a red, under a float from 12 to 36 inches and the trout hammered it, especially if there was a little chop on the water's surface. They also creamed a #14 grey scud fished deep enough to be on the bottom. Some would hit it as soon as it hit the water. And I stripped a black hybernator (streamer) just above the River Pointe Estates boat ramp -- they hit it so hard I thought they were going to snap it off. I also fished a brown 1/50th-ounce jig with an orange head under a float. As long as there was a good chop on the water, they took the float under. View full article
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Generation on Lake Taneycomo has followed the variance of temperature. When it's cold, dam operators have been running water pretty hard, but as soon as it gets warmer, they throttle it down. It's running harder early in the mornings and back on after dark, but instead of no flow during the day, it's been running at a strange 10 megawatts, 703 feet or less than 1,000 c.f.s. It's strange because this level is rare -- and they ran it all last weekend! Today, though, the water is all the way off. Water temp - 45.3 degrees. Last Friday, the hatchery stocked rainbows, lots of rainbows. And they stocked them off the access ramp down below the Landing close to where they keep their stocking boat. Some of our tournament guys saw them dump the trout in . . . and word go out. I guess it was pretty crowded Saturday morning during the Masters Tournament. And quite a few of the rainbows caught were pretty decent, not the little ones we've been seeing most of the winter. Those newly stocked rainbows like to chase. So throwing something shiny you can retrieve was the key. Spoons, rooster tails, jigs, jigs and float all worked well. Anglers caught trout from that area up through the Landing. Since then, it's been reported a lot of those fish have moved up and are being caught around Monkey Island. One of our guides fished up in Turkey and Roark creeks last week and said the creeks were full of trout. He caught his fish on the Berkley pink worm on a small jig head, under a float. Anglers this week are fishing with Powerbait and doing pretty well. They said they're catching a lot of little ones. I've fly fished and thrown a jig-and-float on outings this week. I've seen the same thing . . . lots of 10- to 12-inchers from Lookout Island all the way down and below Short Creek. I tried a Zebra Midge - #16 olive green and a red, under a float from 12 to 36 inches and the trout hammered it, especially if there was a little chop on the water's surface. They also creamed a #14 grey scud fished deep enough to be on the bottom. Some would hit it as soon as it hit the water. And I stripped a black hybernator (streamer) just above the River Pointe Estates boat ramp -- they hit it so hard I thought they were going to snap it off. I also fished a brown 1/50th-ounce jig with an orange head under a float. As long as there was a good chop on the water, they took the float under.
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No new rules. Just follow the old ones. The battles between people here drive others away... and leave the battlers to battle. The topics that soar from the intended subject to accusations and judgements has to stop. Back to sharing things about fishing. I get an email this morning from a friend/member here saying he's sorry the forum is shut down. It has meant a lot to him over the years. He's going in today to have a cancer removed from his brain. THAT puts this into perspective. If you have colorful language in your signature or interests, please remove it.
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Why did this even become divisive? There is more and more a spirit of divisiveness among the members here and I for one am getting tired of it. If you can't say something constructive and respectful, then don't say anything at all. Take the drama to Facebook where it belongs. I don't want anyone to agree or disagree here... just do it. Topic locked.
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Estimated Flow Chart for Taneycomo
Phil Lilley replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
I've finished the boating part. Still has to be edited by my editor though. -
Estimated Flow Chart for Taneycomo
Phil Lilley replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
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Estimated Flow Chart for Taneycomo
Phil Lilley replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
http://www.ozarkanglers.com/lake-taneycomo/generation-on-lake-taneycomo/ Here's a page I created, talking about generation and wading. Give me some feedback please. -
Estimated Flow Chart for Taneycomo
Phil Lilley replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
They've been running water for the past 3 days now - at this strange flow. 10 mw, < 1,000 cfs at 703 feet I need to go up and look at it below the dam. I think this is actually less than the recommended "minimum flow" the Corps was looking at years ago. I say strange because I don't think I've ever seen it at this flow for any duration of time. I think I like it thought!! -
I've been updating some of the pages on OA. This is close to being right but I'm sure it needs tweaking. 702.0 feet -- 000 m.w. -- 0,000 c.f.s.703.0 feet -- 010 m.w. -- < 1,000 c.f.s.704.0 feet -- 035 m.w. -- 2,500 c.f.s.705.0 feet -- 050 m.w. -- 4,000 c.f.s. -- 1 turbine (unit)705.5 feet -- 075 m.w. -- 5,000 c.f.s.706.0 feet -- 085 m.w. -- 6,250 c.f.s.707.0 feet -- 100 m.w. -- 7,500 c.f.s. -- 2 turbines (unit)708.0 feet -- 125 m.w. -- 8,000 c.f.s.708.5 feet -- 150 m.w. -- 10,000 c.f.s. - 3 turbines (unit)709.0 feet -- 175 m.w. -- 11,500 c.f.s.710.0 feet -- 200 m.w. -- 13,500 c.f.s.711.0 feet -- 220 m.w. -- 16,000 c.f.s. - 4 turbines (unit) Thoughts?
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