Phil Lilley

Thanks for posting this. Very interesting.

I'll file a report tomorrow morning... going to bed early. Had a great trip though. First time fishing the main lake. Learned a lot. Did catch our limit of crappie Thursday evening trolling Flickr Shad which was fun. 20-25 ft of water from point 6 to the bridge (south) on the east side of the lake.

We fished at the dam this evening, 30 ft of water off the channel in front of the gates. Night crawlers straight down. We kept a bunch of big blue gill, 4 walleye, 3 cats and 1 crappie. Going back early in the am.

Not sure what Paul has... can't remember the name. I'll look for your boat and I have your ##. We will have Jackson- my black lab.

Me and Paul Crews, friends from Neosho, are heading to Stockton today. Be there till Friday mid day. Staying at Happy O. Unit #20. Will be in Paul's boat- I'll slap some OA decals on the motor. I'll also have some decals if anyone is in the area. I'll leave some with the resort, if they'll hand them out. We plan on fishing for walleye, crappie and whites. Been told to fish the points and channel swings for the eyes early and late, troll for crappie and whites during the day. Might even try fishing over lights at night. Wave if you think you see us...

I'll come if I can.

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This thread has become a schoolyard fight...

Since my last report, generation patterns have changed twice. First, the U.S. Corps of Army Engineers slowed the flow of water down from Table Rock Dam to about 25 megawatts (about 1/2 unit) and left it there for days on end. We saw very little fluctuation day or night until a couple of days ago when the turbines were shut off altogether. But it was short-lived. After 75 megawatts ran last night, it's back to 25 megawatts today, schedule to hit 75 megawatts this afternoon. This might be the "new normal" for a while. With Memorial Weekend coming up, you would think Shepherd of the Hills Hatchery would have stocked the lake full of trout . . . and you'd be correct in your thinking! There have been good reports from this past weekend, of catching good numbers of rainbows from the Branson Landing to Table Rock Dam. One group that stayed here from the First Nazarene Church, Parsons, Kansas, did very well Thursday through Sunday morning. Most of these guys have been coming to Lake Taneycomo on an annual fishing trip for more than 10 years. The majority of them fish with marabou jigs, either fishing them straight or under an indicator. One group that stayed here from the First Nazarene Church, Parsons, Kansas, did very well Thursday through Sunday morning. Most of these guys have been coming to Lake Taneycomo on an annual fishing trip for more than 10 years and the majority of them fish with marabou jigs, either fishing them straight or under an indicator. Kelly Stammer, the leader of this group, reported to me they fished with white marabou jigs, mostly 3/32nd-ounce, above and below Fall Creek, working mainly the bluffs. They also fished shallow water, sight fishing. "If the jig disappeared, we'd set the hook cause it was in the fish's mouth," Kelly reported. They also throw a lot of medium stick baits like gold and black Rapalas, but they didn't produce as much as they usually do. Kelly and some of his group fished the mouth of Turkey Creek Friday evening in the rain and caught rainbows on almost every cast using sculpin jigs, 1/8th-ounce. He said they had to be on the bottom. Duane Doty, Lilleys' Landing's new marina manager, went fishing on Taneycomo yesterday on his day off and files this fishing report: Put in a Coopers Creek about 8:30 this morning and ran up to Lilleys' Landing to try some 1/125- ounce jigs in white and some in sculpin colors with the orange heads. Chatted it up for a bit with the fellas in the office and then headed on up to the Trophy Management Area. The water was running when I launched the boat at Cooper's Creek, but by the time I got up to Fall Creek, the Corps were no longer generating and the water was falling out. Got the jet boat all the way up to the top of the old "Big Hole" area just below the Rebar and Gauntlet. I decided I probably should not go any further due to wade fishermen all in that area. When I shut the motor down, I noticed fish were rising and jumping everywhere. I picked up the spinning rod and started throwing a 3/32-ounce white jig. Lots of fish were chasing all the way to the boat, and I even had four takers on it. By this time I had made my way down to the "Rocking Chair" area and I was wanting a little more action than what I was getting, so I changed things up. I grabbed the 4-weight fly rod that was rigged with a size 16 zebra midge about 18 inches under a small indicator. About 10 seconds into my first drift, I caught a nice, chunky, 18-inch rainbow. I got hits, or caught a fish on just about every cast from the boat ramp down to just above Look Out Island. These fish were nice! Many of them in the 16- to 18-inch range with a few of the silver bullets mixed in. Got tired of throwing the midge and picked up the 5-weight fly rod that was rigged with a 1/125-ounce sculpin colored jig with an orange head about four feet under an indicator. I fished this from Look Out Island down until I got the phone call I was waiting for. You see, my brother-in-law helped me move a freezer and some furniture last week. My payback: a fully guided trip on Taney. Now that I had a good idea what was working, I headed to Lilley's Landing to pick him up. Picked Aaron up right around noon, and we headed back up to the Trophy Management Zone. With the water being all the way off for a while now, we only made it just above the old KOA area campground (now Trophy Run) before coming up on wade fishermen that I did not want to disturb. I had a spinning rod rigged up with the 1/125-ounce sculpin jig under an indicator for Aaron, since he is not a fly fisherman. I picked the fly rod and jig combo back up. Just on the drift from the top of the old KOA to the bottom, I caught eight fish. Aaron had a bit of a slow start and only landed three through there. Aaron finally got his game face on and and started putting the hammer to the trout around the top of Lookout. I got a phone call around this time, and I watched Aaron land five fish while I was on the phone -- and it was only an eight-minute phone call. The wind really started picking up below Lookout down to the Narrows. That long, slow water was a little tougher to fish fighting the wind. We probably still landed five to six fish each on that stretch, and then things really picked up through the Narrows. We both caught several fish from there down to Fall Creek still using the 1/125-ounce sculpin jigs with orange heads. One of the rainbows I caught was very close to 19 inches -- and I could not get my hand around him! Aaron wanted to take some fish home with him, so we headed down to the Bridges by the Landing. We rigged up salmon-colored trout magnets four feet under an indicator on spinning rods and proceeded to putting a "whoopin" on them trout. There was a lot of wind and lots of big chop. Funny thing is, we caught most fish in the slick water that had a scum film on the surface. It only took about 10 minutes for the both of us to catch limits, and then we spent the next hour catching and releasing more trout than you could shake a stick at. These were not as large as the ones we were catching in the Trophy Management Area, but there were still some nice ones in the 13- to 14-inch range to be played with. Had a great day on the water paying back a debt to my brother-in-law! End Duane's report. I had a guide trip on Saturday. Bill Babler was double booked and had a party out of the Hilton on the Landing. These gentlemen were from California, in town for a tour of their company's plant in Carthage, MO. I rigged up four 7-foot spinning rods with a jig and float, using 6x tippet, an olive micro jig and a Zebra Midge below it. I was ready. But when I picked them up, I thought may be they were experienced fishermen and could handle a bit more than watching a float. I asked and they confirmed my gut feeling, so I stopped at the dock and picked up three 6-foot spinning rods for throwing a jig straight. I planned on going all the way to the cable. I boated to Lookout and saw the water was very, very low although they were running some water. I went for it, buzzing up through to Trophy Run, the boat ramp and to Big Hole. No problem. But Rebar looked too tough, too shallow, so we started there and drifted down past Trophy Run. Curt caught some nice rainbows including three pushing 19 inches. Ken was also catching but having trouble with the slack. The second time up I saw where Guide Brett Rader had made his way through Rebar and to the cable so I said, "I can get up there if he can!" And I did. First time down, Curt again nailed some nice rainbows and Ken caught a couple. I knew I had to do something so I tied on a while 1/50th- ounce white jig on the seven-foot rod with the float and threw it out. The float was down almost immediately -- game on! Ken caught up in number and size, landing the biggest rainbow of the day, about 20 inches. Of course, Curt started throwing a white jig and float and did very well, too. These fish weren't just long -- they were thick and fat and full of color. Long story cut short, we fished until 2 p.m.. They caught in excess of 90 trout, one brown landed measuring about 15 inches, and one brown lost at about 24 inches (below boat ramp) ,but at least 20 of the rainbows caught were over 17 inches long. What I saw in the water, though, is the story here. I saw dozens and dozens of rainbows in the 17- to 19-inch range from the cable down to Trophy Run. The upper lake at least is lousy with trophy rainbows, thick shoulders and colored up. And they like white! Quite a few guys were fishing from the bank, wading out as far as they could. Hear me! Fish a white jig under a float! You don't have to get it out that far to catch good fish! Spin fishermen, throw an 1/8th-ounce jig and work it back. I don't know if these fish are still seeing shad. All I know is they are keying in on white and fattening up like pigs. Basically the same thing has been happening down out of the Trophy Area. As Duane reported, using a Trout Magnet under a float has been deadly as well as a couple of Gulp Eggs on a jig hook under a float. I'd suggest using Super Glue to secure either the Trout Magnet or the eggs to the shank of the hook. They'll last much longer. If the trout get real fussy, add an 18-inch piece of 6x or two-pound tippet to the jig head's eye and tie a #16 Zebra Midge as a tandem fly. Black, red, olive, rust and "Ugly" has been working the best. If you don't have good jig rods, either for fishing with or without a float, consider renting a Lilley's spinning rod for the day. We charge $15. We also rent fly rods for $25 per day. Night crawlers have been working well, too, but don't use much weight if you're drifting. See my video to get an idea how to drift with a very small split shot.

No. Grizzley with a 115 prop. It drafts pretty shallow even when idling. A jet wouldn't have any issues getting up there but both Brett and I have props.

Might take a look at this topic.

I thought about waiting and reporting today's trip in my next fishing report, which I may write tomorrow, but I thought no, I better at least post something for the guys fishing tomorrow. Hope this helps... I had a couple of guys from CA today for a 6 hour trip set up by Bill Babler. My first paid trip of the year... I thought they were going to ask me to take them back to the dock when I told them that. They thought they drew a rookie. I always fret over guide trips. I worry I can't get them in fish, that they might not be able to catch fish although they're biting- whatever. I just get all up tight. I guess it's the money thing. Picked them up at the Landing and headed up. I rigged up 4 7-foot spinning rods with a jig and float, using 6x tippet, an olive micro jig and a Zebra Midge below it. I was ready. But when I picked them up, I thought may be they were experienced fishermen and could handle a bit more than watching a float. I asked and they confirmed my gut feeling so I stopped at the dock and picked up 3 6-foot spinning rods for throwing a jig straight. I planned on going all the way to the cable. I boated to Lookout and saw the water was very, very low although they were running some water. I went for it, buzzing up through to Trophy Run, the boat ramp and to Big Hole. No problem. But Rebar looked too tough, too shallow so we started there and drifted down past Trophy Run. Curt caught some nice rainbows including 3 pushing 19 inches. But Ken was having trouble with slack although he did catch fish. Second time up I saw where Brett Rader had made his way through Rebar and to the cable so I said, "I can get up there if he can!" And I did. First time down, Curt again nailed some nice rainbows and Ken caught a couple. I knew I had to do something so I tied on a while 1/50th ounce white jig on the 7-foot rod with the float and threw it out. Float was down almost immediately- it was on! Ken caught up in number and size, landing the biggest rainbow of the day- about 20 inches. Of course Curt started throwing a white jig and float and did very well too. These fish weren't just long- that were thick and fat and full of color. Long story cut short- we fished till 2 p.m.. They caught in access of 90 trout, one brown landed about 15 inches, one brown lost about 24 inches (below boat ramp) but at least 20 of the rainbows caught were over 17 inches. What I saw in the water though is the story here. I saw dozens and dozens of rainbows in the 17-19 inch range from the cable down to Trophy Run. The upper lake at least is lousy with trophy rainbows, thick shoulders and colored up. And they like white! Quite a few guys fishing from the bank, wading out as far as they could. Hear me! Fish a white jig under a float! You don't have to get it out that far to catch good fish! Spin fishermen, throw an 1/8th ounce jig and work it back. I don't know if these fish are still seeing shad. All I know they are keying in on white and fat as pigs. They took some pics with their phones which they're supposed to text me. I'll probably post them with my next fishing report.

I'm way past the point of mounting anything anymore. Use to. I have a 8.5 lb largemouth caught on Bull Shoals back in the 80's. Mounted several browns but none of them lasted 10 years- fell apart. Even pictures now seem pointless... except to show the beauty of some of the trout caught here on Taney. I think it comes with old age- and accomplishing so much more than I ever dreamed I could. If I don't ever catch another fish, I'd be grateful. But unless the Lord takes me in my sleep tonight or in the pew tomorrow at church, I'll catch another trout tomorrow afternoon off our dock while working!

I get that a lot...

Thanks for all the kind words... we love what we do and look forward to many years of hosting people here. http://www.lilleyslanding.com/history This is the history page on our site. Not sure I could add much to it. Hard to believe I was only 24, but I jumped in and never looked back. Have never thought about doing anything else except maybe buying a second lodge in Alaska which Marsha nixed (thankfully). The forum has been such a blessing. Can't believe how many good people I've met through it. Thanks, guys.

35 here this morning. No frost.

I think you guys are arguing over semantics. Everybody has an opinion and has the right to express it. And we have the right to disagree. So I think you guys need to agree to disagree and get on with fishing...

Thanks for posting. We have an excellent staff! We are blessed with wonder people.

Today is our 31st anniversary. I signed the papers and started moving in 31 years ago today. Can't believe it's been that long.

6x Rio

Thanks for posting!

Bottom of the boat is wet and very cold... my feet cramp. I keep forgetting this every time I go out and take off my shoes!!

You can go trout fishing!

I think it's sheer numbers... I can't get individual page counts on the forum but I bet if I could we'd see that ppl looking at the TR forum verses the Stockton forum is vastly different. Plus the TR forum took off from the very beginning and it took Stockton years to develop into the forum it is today. Its' the #2 most visited forum, at least by members posting on it. And both will only get better with time.