Phil Lilley

Maps above now have pdf links at the bottom of each map. This will make it easier to print maps.

You'll have it take it up with invision ip board... they are the ones who designed this forum. Most used the "View New Posts" to see what new posts are made since the last time they were on. You can clear them by clicking the "Mark all forums as read and return to index".

I think I got it.

No way. 703-4 feet.

OK- should be correct.

I see... BUT we have the end of catch and release at the swim area- is this right or does it continue down to the end of zone #2?

yes

Can always use them but don't knock yourself out... people here have been very generous. Hard to say how much is enough. If you want an excuse to tie- go for it. But I think we'll be fine with what we have coming in.

Coy and I got out early this am- at the cable at 6:30 am. Fished the eddie above #1 using sculpin 1/8th oz jigs and caught 7 nice rainbows between 14 and 18 inches. One Coy hooked jumped 8 times. We worked the hatchery bank down past #3 outlet and caught a couple more rainbows. Down at what used to be #4 outlet, there water coming from the pipe again, we started hooking more rainbows in the eddie water against the bank. Made 3 passes and caught 10--12 more rainbows and one small smalley. Some of the rainbows were smaller but none under 12 inches. Drifted down to Lookout and fishing the eddie there. Caught 10-12 more rainbows on straight jig and we tried a jig and float and caught a few that way. All sculpin jigs. Great morning and lots of trout. Built up my confidence on fishing again. I wouldn't call it easy fishing- we had to work for them. Missed alot of strikes- had to pay attention. The fish we caught were all very healthy with pooching stomachs.

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Bull Creek, the fishable part, is really nothing more than a big cove of Lake Taneycomo. It is hardly ever floated and isn't serviced by any outfitters, also I float it when I get a chance. Beaver and Swan are quite a bit different. Actually, Roark is fished more than Bull, I bet. I'll have to think on this one a while. But I would lean to leaving it as part of the lake, at least for now.

Last I checked it was 50.

Generation is practically nonstop these days with the continual rain patterns. Table Rock is dropping slowly, then inching back up after a good rain. We will see this generation pattern for the rest of the summer and into the fall. Trout fishing continues to be good but in strange places. We've never sent this many anglers down to "The Landing" to catch their limit of trout before... but it continues to be the hot spot. Speculation- MDC is stocking more rainbows in this area compared to past years. Use to, the stocking boat would come up to our place (Lilleys Landing) and make their turn-a-round above the dock, dumping their fish all along the way. We haven't seen them up here all spring. The best area are just up from Monkey Island to just past it, from Scotty's Trout Dock to Bass Pro's Dock and then from Belk's past Roark Creek (I never thought I'd use a landmark like "Belks" to describe where to fish- almost sac religious). Rooster tails in yellow are catching freshly stocked rainbows as well as Spin-a-Lures plus drifting a white and pink Gulp Egg using a drift rig. The stockers being caught are good sized- averaging 12-13 inches. Also try a jig head with a Gulp Egg, orange, under a float 4-5 feet deep in these same areas. Early morning, it's been fairly good up below the dam, drifting a red san juan worm / scud #14 gray combination under a float 12-14 feet deep on the hatchery side of the lake from outlet #1 to just past the Big Hole. The rainbows we're seeing are thick, strong and big- most over 15 inches up to 19 inches. I had one almost take all my line off my reel before turning it and it was only 18 inches. Also drift a white 1/8th oz jig straight and get it on the bottom. If we weren't on the bottom we weren't getting bit the other day. Yes you'll lose some jigs but you'll also catch some incredible rainbows and one or two browns.

I can separate the upper and lower and make the image bigger but can't with the whole map. I'll change the cove- I missed it.

See if I've missed something. I know there's some places on the upper end but don't have much room to add names. This more of a lower map, detailed.

I was under the impression that most if not all the guides on the White had this thing down. I've read over on John Wilson's board a list of rules for boating on the White, especially the area below the dam. Actually, pretty impressive IF everyone knows them but it's impossible for everyone to know them unless you read the forums. Most of it is common sense. May be your guide was a rouge guide from out of state... may be Missouri!!

Saw you on the water today... didn't recognize you till you were past. Hope the fishing was better for you! It was tough for us.

Yep- real weird not seeing a dock there.

http://www.swl-wc.usace.army.mil/WCDS/Repo...ata/Tabrock.htm Check this link out for generation... as you can see no low or down time at all. Springfield south side got flooded the other day and the James got most of the runoff. Table Rock came up almost a foot so they've picked up generation here. The fish we caught all fought very hard and were good size- very healthy.

Haven't done one of these in a while... it's been tough but not impossible. We got out this morning and boated to the dam. Lots of boats out today- good thing. Babler, Gries and Welch were all up there and catching fish. We started drifting white 1/8th oz jigs- had to be on the bottom almost dragging before we got bit. Coy caught the first rainbow- nice 16 incher. We ended up each bringing 4-5 trout to hand- all but one on white and the odd duck on a sculpin. Did miss alot of bites though. Out of practice. Did hook several in eddies along the bank including brown in pic. Coy got out last evening and boated down to the last bridge and drifted white/pink gulp eggs on the bottom from the bridge to Bass Pro and caught 4-5 on every drift. That's where alot of the guides are going to get their limits. The last pic- where do you think this was taken?

Here's the new version. Holes in right places? Any other landmarks or holes that should be on here?

Good to have you. Thanks for registering and joining in.

We haven't had any problems for so long... it's been nice to let people register and be able to get right on the forum. But that might change if our friends over seas start frequenting out forum. Dan and I will zap them when we see their posts...