Phil Lilley

You don't know me very well...

There's so many places in our own Missouri backyard that all of us are missing out on... but God willing and the creek(s) don't rise, we'll see most of them someday. But until then, we have people like Al and Brian and many others to -show and tell- us all about it... and now we have Cricket. Welcome.

You were with the Millers... they are long time guests and nice people. I didn't get the "didn't check out" thing. I wasn't in on it. Our cleaning staff gets alittle grouchy sometimes.

Does anyone from the Branson area want to car pool to the event in Springfield Thursday? We will leave about 6sih on Thursday and have room for 4 people in my van. Was thinking about the talk... I'm sure Bill will answer questions about Table Rock fishing too. We'll add a session to the end if we have to, as long as we're done before 9:30 ish.

This is your chance to fish! We possibly need people to take a soldier fishing this Friday. We are unsure of how many people we have coming at this point. But I want to make sure we have enough volunteers to take these guys and gals fishing. We will start fishing at 9:30 am, break for lunch about 1-2 pm and back to fishing till evening. If you can only fish part of the day, we can use you. If you show up and we have plenty of help, we have extra jon boats- you can go fishing "on us". Some of these guys fly fish and some spin fish. If they are running too much water to fly fish, they will spin fish. We will supply the equipment. No guides license needed. We aren't getting paid to fish so that doesn't figure into the mix. TU and resort insurance covers the event. If you can help- drop me a PM.

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Took my son-in-law Jimmy and his bro-in-law this evening. They are pressure washing our condos this week. We boated to the dam and drifted egg fly, white jig and a red san juan. Jimmy caught one on the egg. Real slow. We ended our drift at Lookout Island where we moved in below the island and fished straight jigs and a jig and float and caught a few rainbows. They weren't on one particular color... olive, sculpin and peach worked. Fishished the evening drifting the bluff bank and threw 3/32 nd jigs, sculpin and white. We caught 4 or 5 nice rainbows. These guys were rookies but didn't pretty good.

I know what you mean!!

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"A man can never have enough crappie in the freezer." Just be careful of your possession limit... people see you keeping alot of fish- they may call an agent and he will knock on your door. Not saying you are or would Seth but it's easy to do when fishing is HOT!!

1 BLASE FRICK ST. LOUIS, MO 589 $5,415 2 MARK HORTON CLEVELAND, MO 571 $1,078 3 STEWART BIGELOW COLUMBIA, MO 552 $2,427 4 JEREMY RASNICK POINT LOOKOUT, MO 552 $489 5 GARY GREGORY TROY, MO 531 $421 6 DUSTIN BACK GALENA, MO 525 $332 7 LARRY FREESEMANN OLATHE, KS 525 $303 8 TIMMY BURT BLUE SPRINGS, MO 523 $472 9 MARK ANDERSON NIXA, MO 516 $530 Tied for 3rd in the point standings... not too bad for a rookie!! Way to go Jeremy!!

This is a copy of Bill's post from a few weeks ago... please update any info and add other ramps that are not on this list. I will clean it up and make updates as needed and keep this pinned at the top of the forum. Cricket Creek off the hwy. Lots of space for rigs and people are launching there. Gages on Long Creek - closed State Park- great ramp- no problems. Plenty of parking. Big Bay Ramp at Shell Knob Very Good limited parking Campbell Pt at Shell Knob Ok but shallow, no problem with shorts or a companion H Hwy at Shell Knob Good parking and lots of space 39 Bridge at Shell Knob Ok Eagle Rock SP - open but need to have 2 people and/or wader Eagle Rock Marina - open but need to have 2 people and/or wader Baxter 2 roads shallow easy with shorts or a companion Mill Creek - Putting in off road and it's shallow. Parking awkward. Courtesy dock has been pulled up on the ramp and is now fuctional for public use. Viola - Can launch off the road on the edge of the parking lot, as well as a couple of the loop roads in the campground and also down toward the marina. Parking along road. As a note Kings has cleared considerably the last week. Still murky, but not mocha, more greenish. Also I think the Corps campground is going to open 5/15, at least that is what they were planning. Big M - Launching about 400' from ramp on road bed. Actually good angle and "road ramp" situation. Parking along campground roads. I talked with Denver the Marina owner today and they were working hard to get their facility open by Memorial Day. Kim City 13 - open, parking is better as water recedes Ahoy's: All docks now have walk ways attached to the shore. Indian Point - Open but parking is limited Holiday Island: OK but easier loading with two people or waders. Parking for 30+ rigs. Beaver: Closed Kimberling Inn Good limited parking

You can see the dam from highway 63 after traveling thru Osage Beach on the west side of the road. I've never driven over to see it up close. I'm sure if you look on a MO map you can find it.

Nope- no soft plastics above FC.

What's with all the new screen names like r**s and all.. there's a bunch of them. I guess all the intelligent names are used up. Thanks for the heads up... may be I should create a forum just for "hot deals" on the internet.

Seen the pics on foxnews... Pitcher looks like Greensburg, Ks. A friend of mine who lives north of Neosho said he heard a twister north of his house. We didn't get anything. The wind blew harder last night than during the storm.

Gosh... you're getting that much $$$!!!

The last couple of days hasn't been too good for most. Today was the worse of the two. Great days to fish but the trout aren't hungry. Don't have info on all parts of the lake but most. I fished yesterday for most of the afternoon with minimal results. Best was from the last bridge down to Bass Pro using Gulp eggs- white/orange combo. Had some kids we were trying to get into trout. Were some bright spots- some nice 20-inch plus browns caught and nearly caught on white jigs, minnows and crank baits. No particular areas on the lake, just around.

No- no bait caster rods... sorry.

Fly Rods? I'll do 25% off retail on any Templefork Rod. Go to their website to see what retail is. Shipping not included. I'll have it dropped shipped from TF. Mo residents will have to pay sales tax- sorry. PM me if interested.

We've had dozens of discussions about c/r vs c/eat. There are always going to be differing views on the subject, whether it's bass, trout or walleye- yes even walleye. People are passionate on both sides... both sides are within the law and both have every right to do as they wish (without ridicule, I might add). You can discuss it but be respectful. As far as enforcement- agents can't be everywhere all the time. Greene County has 2 agents(?) and even if they get a call on a violation, depending on where they are and if they are on duty, they may not be able to check out each report. I would say below the dam is considered James River and keeping bass would be illegal until opening day. These no mention in the regs about a special area below a dam which would be considered part of the impoundment above the dam.

That's alot of cleanin'!

2008 May Newsletter from the Shepherd of the Hills Fish Hatchery Conservation Center Greetings from the Hatchery! Contents [1] Earth Day Wrap up [2] Landscaping To Attract Wildlife - Friday, May 16th @ 7pm [3] What's Bugging You? (Chiggers, mosquitoes, ticks, & Fleas) -Tuesday, May 20th @ 7pm [4] Family Fishing Fair - Saturday, June 7th 10am-2pm [5] FREE Fly Tying Classes [6] Ask a Naturalist “Was the Hatchery in any danger with the flood gates open?” Making Reservations: Because the Hatchery is open 7 days a week, you may call any day from 9am to 5pm. This includes Saturday and Sunday. We ask that reservations be made by phone, not by email. 1. Earth Day - Wrap Up A big thank you to everyone who came out to enjoy the 4th Annual Earth Day event on Saturday, April 19th. The weather was excellent and we had an attendance of 525 people. A special thanks to Christy Hubinsky (Table Rock State Park), Kirk Kopper (Table Rock Water Quality Volunteer), Cindy Rains (White River Electric Coop), and Jack Coe (Hybrid Car). The Hatchery is continuing to become more green in its operation, but we cannot do it alone. Anything you can do to reuse, reduce or recycle will help people, plants, animals, and the environment. We look forward to next year's event which will actually take place on April 22, 2009...the actual Earth Day. 2. Landscaping to Attract Wildlife - Friday, May 16th @ 7pm Ages: Families and Individuals This is not a scout program, so EACH family must make their own reservation. Reservations Required Wander out your backdoor and find yourself surrounded by spring wildflowers. Hear mockingbirds singing and bullfrogs calling. See yellow butterflies and green hummingbirds darting from flower to flower. Smell the spicy fragrance of pine. When you landscape to attract wildlife, you gain the enjoyment of nature’s beauty at the same time that you welcome creatures who come to live, eat, and raise their young in your space. At the Landscaping to Attract Wildlife program we will tour the Hatchery’s Butterfly Garden, Glade Rock Garden, and view the easy new compost bin. We will discuss planning your own landscape and review a variety of grasses, vines, wildflowers, shrubs, trees, water features and other methods of attracting wildlife. Beginning your landscape project should soon bring you friends of butterflies, a variety of birds, frogs, toads, and an occasional lizard. Enjoy your new neighbors and the beauty they bring to your life. For more information or to make reservations call (417) 334-4865 ext 0 3. What's Bugging You? (Chiggers, Ticks, Mosquitoes & Fleas) - Tuesday, May 20th @ 7pm Ages: Families, Individuals, and Scouts Ever wonder what is waiting for you in the grass and weeds? What are these pesky critters and how can we avoid them. Come to the Hatchery Conservation Center to learn what these animals can do and not do to you. You will also be amazed at what things you can do to avoid them. By learning more about these pesky critters, you can better enjoy the outdoors. To make reservations call (417) 334-4865 ext 0 4. Family Fishing Fair - Saturday, June 7th 10am - 2pm Ages: All ages (great for Scouts and Families) NO RESERVATIONS REQUIRED This is our biggest event of the year and coincides with Free Fishing Weekend across the state. In addition to lots of great learning stations, we are finally able to have actual fishing at this year's event. To fish, you must participate some of the stations which include: Fly tying, knot tying, bait and fly casting, fish print art, fish maze, where to fish, fish cleaning & cooking, and many more. All kids will receive a free goodie bag so look for the information table before you get started. As in year's past, there will be two special performances of the Fishin Magicians who will wow you with their comedy and knowledge. Again, fishing will be allowed this year, but only after participating in some of the stations. You may bring your own fishing pole or you may borrow one of ours. Either way, you will have a great day learning about fish and the aquatic environment. For more information or directions call (417) 334-4865 ext 0 5. FREE Fly Tying Classes - 2nd and 4th Tuesdays each month May 13th and May 27th @ 7pm Free fly tying classes are being offered local fishing guide, Jeremy Hunt. Reservations for these classes are being taken by Jeremy Hunt at (417) 294-0759. This class is designed for both the beginner and the expert. If you have them, bring your vice, scissors, bobbin, and whip finisher. If you do not have these items, let Jeremy know when you make reservations. 6. Ask a Naturalist Brenda from Kimberling City asks, “Was the Hatchery in any danger with the flood gates open?” Brenda, you asked a common question during late March and April. Although all 10 flood gates were open to 2 feet, we were not in any danger of flooding at the Hatchery. We did have minor flooding in the picnic area and portions of our hiking trails. For the most part the water was a positive things for many of the fish, not just the trout. Fishermen were catching walleye and white bass near outlets #1 and #2. The fish were able to go places they had not ever been before such as the grass lawns of some parks and picnic areas. Some fish, however, got caught in ditches and were not able to return to the lake. Only a few died. For the most part, the opening of the flood gates was a good thing for the fish and visitation for the hatchery. If you have a question that you would like to have a Naturalist answer, send your question to John.Miller@mdc.mo.gov . We would love to answer it for you and share this information with other readers in our Ask A Naturalist spot. We hope that you have enjoyed this issue of the Shepherd of the Hills newsletter. Have a great spring and keep learning about the forest, fish, and wildlife resources around us. Cheers! John Miller Naturalist Program Supervisor Shepherd of the Hills Conservation Center 483 Hatchery Road Branson MO 65616 (417) 334 4865 ext 0 John.Miller@mdc.mo.gov

about missed it... Happy Birthday.