Phil Lilley

http://www.ky3.com/news/6501612.html I talked to someone from DNR the other day about the senate bill in the works... he brought up this farm and pointed out that most counties in the state have few rules governing aggraculture and farming practices, Barry County being one in the lacking column. I'd think the most effective way to govern this is on the county level cause each county needs to be handled differently. Counties in the south part of the state where there are springs and streams should, in their own interest, protect these area from damage BUT if they don't elect the people who see it this way, they won't. It appears this chicken farm has basically jumped through all the hoops and by all legal means should be able to start their farm, according to county and state laws.

You did the right thing, and a good thing... thanks!

Might try looking on http://download.com or http://cnet.com for shareware programs.

That's why there's a pump in Taney pumping water to the hatchery... I heard about this. Make sense. If they shut the water off at the hatchery altogether, how long do you think it would take before fish started dying? 23 minutes? 25 minutes? They should have a backup system, don't you think? If this were to happen, if Shepherd lost EVERY trout in the hatchery, consider the economic impact it would have on the state.

Dark. The Quarry Campground does not take reservations- first come first served. So I'll try to get there early Friday to grab a spot. I have some phone numbers from the forum but in case the facility is full and I have to relocate, pm/email me your number if you're planning on coming.

OK- I got cleared to go. I'll be camping at the campground below Norfork Dam. I'll be in my 2-tone dark blue/beige Ford truck with an old pop-up camper... I'll put an OAF hat on the radio antenna. I'll have fish, beans, potatoes, tea and water and eating tools. Everyone else fill in the blanks. Ask friends... I should have plenty of fish.

My first thought on any new regulation is enforcement... I'm sure they've thought through it (hope so) cause there are ramifications to any new regs. I'd think they'd have to have an agent at the put-ins every morning or at least on busy days to monitor what people take on the river. It could look like KCI or Lambert's security gate... wouldn't that be a sight!

Would a stainless steel prop get me any additonal top end speed? No- stainless is much heavier and will do just the opposite.

Don't change it on account of me. There will be other times, God willing.

I'll have to send the chicken with someone else... May 19 is out departure date to the great north territories. We may have to do something else (in addition to) in April... a little less formal may be.

Welcome, Heather. We always could use another school teacher or two to keep us illiterates in line here. MrsDucky has been a little overwhelmed lately.

If no one is interested in a fish fry gathering Friday night, I'll stop catching crappie for it. Let me know... I'm going back out today!

Has that ever been done on any other river in MO? Is this a first? Who will enforce it? It sounds like a great idea- a bold move- but enforcement may problems on several fronts. Plus will it redirect partiers to other rivers and make them worse? Don't get me wrong- I'm not complaining about the new rule... just thinking through it.

I camped at a place- it's really on the lake (Grand) but at the mouth of the river. There's a ramp- have to pay to use that ramp I remember and camp- $2-3 but that was years ago. What's the name of that place?

Where highway 60 crosses the rivers... Neosho and Spring.

I've been there... beutiful place. Caught rainbows in pools using a ..... drum roll...... zebra midge! They loved them.

The underwater is working... and there's even some trout under there. But the lake cams are still down cause I have a hardware conflict. Trying to get someone to look at it for us.

Is anyone fishing? Say... Friday or Saturday evening? I'm thinking about heading down but I'm gonna want to hit the water someplace if I'm going to be that close to the water. Friday- Lent... got me thinking. What about a fish fry Friday evening someplace? One of the accesses after dark? I can provide most of what we need- fish, fryer, oil, plates/forks, beans (hot). Any thoughts where?

Above the bridge... interesting. Up in the clear water.... interesting. I think when anyone posts a whopper report like you did, naturally people are going to give you a hard time. YOu know the old saying(s) about a fisherman's lips... they only move when he's lyin'. So don't let it bother you. It goes with the territory.

Do you think fish just don't like gin clear water? I see the same thing in stream like Swan- and esp Swan. It seems to always be gin clear- more clear than most streams around. Is this your observation?

Gezzz guys- you're going to make everyone carry clickers and prove their numbers somehow. Before long no one is going to report a good trip cause they might get blasted by the forum police for exaggerating their numbers which I'm sure none of us ever do! If anyone out there never has told a 'whopper' fish story or said they caught 25 crappie when it was really 22, throw the first stone. Ken? Bill?

I can see the headlines now... "Fly fisherman hooks Famous Dave patron on his back cast" Don't let one of those guys in orange catch you fishing off the wall. I got down there a little this evening but I was fishing for crappie, not trout. But I couldn't help catching these rainbows Bill's talking about. They are big and make some impressive runs.

Yea but who catches the most when we go :) :)

"I would classify myself as a decient trout fisherman, but I have never caught 150 fish in 90 minutes. Even if I have 2 other great fisherman in the boat that is a real stretch, you have to play those fish a bit. I cannot tell you how impressed we are." Jamie probably can catch 150 in 90 minutes all by himself... he's one of the best anglers I know... he's won or placed in the top 3 in almost every trout tourney he's fished, at least in my tourneys. I'll vouch for his report.

The 2 houses up from Cooper Creek and down from Lazy Valley, one brick and one white, just across the lake from the old pump house, we burglarized Friday, 3/9, sometime between 11 am - 4 pm. They made entry from the lakeside and possibly parked at Cooper Creek Campground, walking through the woods. Another house was broken into closer to Fall Creek near Cooper Creek Access between 1 - 3 pm that afternoon. If anyone saw anyone around these houses that afternoon and can describe them or give times, please call our office at 1-800-284-2196. Thanks.