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Taney's always been like this in the summer. It's not good. I've made misjudgements as well. You think you can see out 100 feet and going slow enough and someone appears out of no where. Go too slow and throw a big wake. It's tough. Kayak situation isn't good either.
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Babler said he was tearing up the bass... on the Ned. He should chime in...
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I just got through stripping some bigger streamers. I know- wrong time of day but it's a little cloudy. Had some time. Worked my bank from up around the corner to the dock using I had three strikes just above the dock. Should have hooked something. Then I went across the lake and went down the bluff bank using Nothing. All the way past Cooper. Back up to Trout Hollow and came back the inside bank. Use the white streamer for a while, then the black/gold. Nothing. I know throwing these streamers on Taney is like fishing for musky... the fish of a thousand casts.
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Compilation from last night's trip
Phil Lilley replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
There was what appeared like a dead Canada goose floating under the trees along the bank... it was more of a question asked out loud. I thought it would fit - random. Kinda like "Squirrel!!" -
Yea- this is real late for a good sockeye run. Usually you see tickles of schools by now.
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3x. I haven't been back out since... really want to. I don't have a 6 wt rod rigged, only my 5 wt. I want to throw some bigger streamers. I've been with people who threw big streamers here and never did any good. I've thrown them too. This trip the other evening- my success was a surprise to me.
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Compilation from last night's trip
Phil Lilley replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
I get that from my dad... -
Are they restricting the commercial guys this summer? Is that why you're getting so many through and in the river?
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If you haven't had a good laugh today... https://youtu.be/yRu2GHZxwlg
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Might check Crane Creek too.
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If you want to wade, check RR's water levels and if they are good, I'd go there. Taney is just too high to wade.
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Everybody is different. If there's nothing else I've learn from my 56 years on earth, that's clear. And we do change... I have lots of stories about friends switching after many years of swearing they'd never touch a fly rod... a spinning rod. Me- I use the rod that works best for the conditions. Or I use the rod that's most handy. Or I use the rod that I want to showcase in a video. The latter was the reason last evening. I didn't think I'd do as well as I thought I did so you may see me stripping streamers more often!! I do love to fly fish dry flies. That would be my number one go to technique.
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Just close to the outlets. We're at flood stage.
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I don't think anyone can say until they START letting water out of Bull Shoals. At that point, you may give it an estimate. But right now we're in a holding pattern. The whole Midwest, with the exception of the free flowing rivers, is backed up waiting on water to drop out of the Mississippi lower river and delta.
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That's unbelievable! I wonder how much of the James River Arm is like this...
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by John Neporadny Jr. One type of cover bass seek and bass fishermen virtually ignore on other waters can be found nearly everywhere on the Lake of the Ozarks. "A dock is basically the ultimate cover," says Dion Hibdon, the touring pro who honed his skills while fishing the thousands of docks on his home waters of Lake of the Ozarks. "It provides good shade and it's a good place for a fish to hide because a lure hasn't been made yet that will fish every inch of a dock." Hibdon and his father Guido are masters of a skipping technique that places a bait into near inaccessible spots, but even this presentation fails to cover every area a bass can hide under a dock. Hibdon looks for the following keys to help him pinpoint the location of bass: clusters of bluegill hanging around the dock, shady spots and any hard-to reach areas, such as the back corners of boat wells or behind storage sheds where dock owners sink brush piles. If he catches bass form the same locations at a couple docks, the Classic champion develops a pattern in which he can key on the same spots at other piers. The most common type of dock anglers encounter on Lake of the Ozarks are floating docks with encapsulated foam. Shade and man-made brush piles are the main shelter for bass under these floating docks. When fishing a floating dock, Hibdon prefers pitching a jig and retrieving it in a hopping fashion to imitate a bluegill. Key locations on these types of docks include boat hoists and brush piles in the back corners of the wells and walkways. Brush piles can also be found along the sides and corners of docks and the deeper water in front of the boat house. Running a spinnerbait or crankbait along the sides of a dock is another productive technique for catching bass hiding under this floating shelter.
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Phone number for anticipated Dam Flow
Phil Lilley replied to ten_scoach's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
Schedule says 4 but it said 4 today and they ran 3. Not sure what's up with the SPA schedule. Be either 3 or 4. -
Phone number for anticipated Dam Flow
Phil Lilley replied to ten_scoach's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
Should run 3 units all day. -
I'd change the title but your post wouldn't make sense... haha
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MONDAY Afternoon UPDATE, 7/13. Precipitation/Forecast. No rainfall over the weekend. Light rainfall forecasted over the next 3-days. 2-Day QPF forecasts light rain over White River Basin (0.5" or less); 3-Day QPF forecasts moderate trace, no runoff. No rainfall in the forecast after Wednesday night. Temps forecasted to be hot this week. 1-3-Day QPF: http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/d13_fill.gif?1436792675192 Reservoirs with 50% flood storage in use. LITTLE RIVER SYSTEM. None. WHITE RIVER SYSTEM. Norfork. ARKANSAS RIVER SYSTEM. Blue Mtn, Nimrod. Reservoirs with 75% flood storage in use. (Revised) LITTLE RIVER SYSTEM. None. WHITE RIVER SYSTEM. Beaver, Table Rock, Bull Shoals. ARKANSAS RIVER SYSTEM. None. Reservoirs with 100% flood storage in use. (No change) LITTLE RIVER SYSTEM. None. WHITE RIVER SYSTEM. None. ARKANSAS RIVER SYSTEM. None. WHITE RIVER SYSTEM. All lakes remain in their respective flood pools; Greers Ferry is falling; Table Rock, Bull Shoals and Norfork are rising, Beaver is steady. Bull Shoals is above elevation 684.0 requiring storage balancing between Table Rock and Bull Shoals. Downstream stages are steady allowing increased releases from Bull Shoals up to allowable channel capacity (regulating to 14' at Newport due to 4-Lake system using more than 70% flood storage). The three most critical projects are Beaver, Table Rock, and Bull Shoals with less than 0.26", 0.8", and 0.6" of runoff storage remaining in their respective flood pools. Table Rock blocked open vacuum breaker vents because the dissolved oxygen dropped below 6 ppm in its tailwater. Beaver: elev 1129.48 and steady (93.7% fs); target firm power (950 dsf). Table Rock: elev 927.66 and rising (74.6% fs); 18-hour operation releasing 10k dsf. Bull Shoals: elev 692.29 (90.6% fs); releasing 9.5k dsf. Norfork: elev 570.32 (56.5% fs); target firm power (1.35k dsf), using siphon to meet minimum flow requirement. Greers Ferry: elev 469.74 (27.0% fs) target 3k dsf. Current stage at Newport is 13.36' and steady (start operating to 14' regulating stage). Current stage at Georgetown is at 13.89' and steady (13' regulating stage). Jim Sandberg Operations Project Manager Table Rock Lake
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The creeks were blown out- they aren't now. Most of the creeks have pretty small watersheds and don't take long to drop out. The lower lake though takes a long time, especially with the amount of back water there is/was. The difference between Taney and BS last week at Powersite was close mainly because of the water influx above and below the dam. Don't get me wrong... BS is getting up there close to flood pool. It's crazy high.
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Lilleys' Lake Taneycomo fishing report 7/10
Phil Lilley replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
I use a Garmin Virb. It has a housing like a GoPro too but I don't use it. I use a wireless mic system- plugs into the back of the camera. -
Here is the latest for the 4 lake system. Beaver Lake is passing inflow with full power today; the gates were closed at 9am. Beaver will double the normal minimum release tomorrow and then go to minimum release on Monday. Pool should hold near 1129.5 feet into early next week and as the inflow falls below the minimum flood release there will be a slow falling trend into the later part of the week. Table Rock, inflow is holding very high for July. James River at Galena crested this morning at 42,000 cfs which is about 3.5 times the full power release. A rising pool will continue into tomorrow with a crest Monday between 927.5 to 928 feet. Full power (4 units for 24-hours) will continue tomorrow and be cut to the equivalent of an 18 hour operation on Monday to try to bring the Table Rock/Bull Shoals balance back to even. Table Rock is on the lower side of the remaining storage due to the heavy James River inflow. Bull Shoals, inflow from the northern edge of the local runoff basin has been very high with both Bull Creek and Beaver Creek cresting at 20,000 cfs each. Inflow is falling off quickly and slightly higher releases are starting today. Targeting a 14 foot stage at Newport due to the greater than 70% 4 lake system criteria. Looking for a crest Monday btw 692.5 to 693 feet. Norfork will go higher than 470 by Monday. Releases are being held to minimum flood amount due to the 3 lake (Beaver, Table Rock and Bull Shoals) percent full (78%) versus Norfork percent full (52%) well out of balance. Bull Shoals will get priority on downstream channel capacity. Several people are asking why we are not releasing more water with the lake rising. The dams are restricted on what we can release downstream due to regulating stages. The regulating stage this time of the year is 12 feet, however since our storage capacity is more than 70% utilized it is now 14-feet. Once the lakes crests hopefully this will help is evacuate the water for the reservoirs in a more timely manner. Table Rock releases will be based on what Bull Shoals can release into the White River while dropping its pool and maintaining a balanced storage capacity with Table Rock.
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Lilleys' Lake Taneycomo fishing report 7/10
Phil Lilley replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
Pictures curtesy of Steve Dickey and Rick Lisek.
