Phil Lilley

I've joined the MAC ranks. We now have 3 mac's in the family/biz. I bought a Mac Pro last week and just got my cs4 web software today so I'm loaded for bear. But it's tough getting used to the different way this works and acts. One thing is finding/saving/moving files around. Explorer was easy. I understood c:/ drive and the filing system. Mac is difficult to read, IMO. I've connected my 2 screens today and having alittle trouble keeping them inline. One screen wants to bleed over into the next. The curser in the corner to change apps is a pain too. Gotta find a new way. I have to go to the right screen and upper right corner and that's along way to go if you're working in the left screen. Any thoughts?

I've joined the MAC ranks. We now have 3 mac's in the family/biz. I bought a Mac Pro last week and just got my cs4 web software today so I'm loaded for bear. But it's tough getting used to the different way this works and acts. One thing is finding/saving/moving files around. Explorer was easy. I understood c:/ drive and the filing system. Mac is difficult to read, IMO. I've connected my 2 screens today and having alittle trouble keeping them inline. One screen wants to bleed over into the next. The curser in the corner to change apps is a pain too. Gotta find a new way. I have to go to the right screen and upper right corner and that's along way to go if you're working in the left screen. Any thoughts?

Gavin is right. Kings are hard to find and will cost you big bucks. I like sockeye best but it's hards to tell the difference between sockeye and coho.

WOW- if you like fish straight from the source- you gotta jump on this! Awesome price too. Sean is the guy I got to go out with and fish a bit in Bristol Bay this summer.

Branson is always .15 to .30 cents higher than surrounding areas. We try to buy gas in Springfield as often as possible.

Is this statutory rape??? This is a forward I got today. Off color- yea. Funny- yes. Cure your boredom?

You're killing me here.

I didn't say it was coming.... it just hasn't come yet.... IF it comes. I would think so BUT you never know after such an unusual year.

Jon- we have a rule. You have to type more than one word to start a topic. Unless it's a word like, "fishon!!" or something like that.

I emailed Clint, hatchery manager, and asked him about the brown run. I remembered in the past that the hatchery usually harvested their browns by first or mid October. Clint corrected me and said it was the first couple of weeks in November. He said they haven't had alot of browns climb the ladder but they are looking for them to come in here in the next few weeks. So they didn't come up early as some thought. If they did, they didn't head up the fish ladder which would have been very unusual. So chances are they have not come up and are late this year. Very strange- Salmon runs in Alaska - most if not all runs were late this year. Salmon runs at least on the Pere Marquette River in Michigan were at least 2 weeks late this year. Brown run here is 2-3 week late I'd say. So there is hope, yet.

Going to close this with these words... I've known Jeremy for alot of years. He's passionate about fishing, fly fishing, fly tying and teaching both. He's just a passionate guy who likes to please people. I've put my foot in my mouth several times on this forum over the years and you all have called me out on it each time. Thank you. It's made me a better person and yes I do have to watch what I type cause being the owner of this site I'm held to a higher standard than others. I understand and respect that. "Guides" are also held to a higher standard and rightly so. And when one goes alittle far in reporting, they get hammered alittle more than others. It goes with the territory. I think most everyone here kinda knows everyone by now- our idiosyncrasies and ticks, our way of expressing ourselves- and sometimes we have to interpret "reports" in different ways and say to ourselves, "well, that's just Phil" and go on. And then I'll repeat this one from before... type it, reread it and make sure it's what you want to post in public for all to see and scrutinize.

I get it... stirring the pot!! To answer one question- all the generation and flood water pushed alot of gravel from the bottom and from the outer banks downstream and filled in some areas. Fishing comment- browns- everybody is frustrated with the situation. Very few browns right now when there should be tons. Late? Early? Skipping a year? Not sure anyone knows. DO is always bad this time of year- nothing new. Higher water temps is different and gets the blame for bad fishing days- rightly so possibly. Rainbows- Skinny trout- some are but most are not. Bill reported catching lots of rainbows spitting out lots of small scuds above Fall Creek the other day. Vince had one of the best days of guiding/fly fishing last week he'd ever had. Don't think these are the reports Jeremy was referring to (hopefully). I can vouch for either of these as being 100% accurate. Fishing is fishing and not catching! Everybody has an opinion and has a right to it. But if you type out an opinion that calls out people for lying to drum up biz... you may get pounded. Just a warning.

Lead being the first one in line... I usually put it there. I think Duane had it there too.

Drove to the dam today about 1:30 PM and found my buddy Duane (DuckyDoty) fishing. We plotted around below rebar a bit and didn't do very well. I think Duane caught a few rainbows on a light colored scud duo and I caught one on a san juan. Didn't see many caught either. Didn't see any browns this time. Duane did see 2 cruisers below #2 along the bank that would push 20 lbs so there are some around. I offered to take Duane out in my boat and he said ok. So we headed back to the resort and uplake we went. Stopped at the narrows above Fall Creek and saw the water was starting to move. We threw against the channel bank till the water started moving too fast and caught 4-5 rainbows pretty quick. Then headed up to Lookout Island, got out and fished around it. I caught 4 rainbows on the backside using my "chuck-n-duck" method and a #14 tan scud. Duane went to the front side and started drifting a san juan/scud combo and wacked them. I came over and messed around with some midge patterns but didn't do as well. I bet he caught 30 rainbows- one pushing 20 inches. Most were small though. Fun stuff! Duane said he talked to someone who talked to a either a biologist or a hatchery person about the browns. I'm going to double check with the hatchery manager to make sure this is right. Evidently the hatchery hasn't has many browns climb the ladder yet this fall. Normally, I know they have their browns by the first of October. Some think the high water temp has them heading up late this fall. All we know for sure is they're not up at the dam.... yet. Not in the numbers we are accustomed to. Did get an email from Clint at the hatchery the other day. I might have already reported this. They have not altered their stocking schedule this fall on account of warm temps or low DO levels.

??? Just checking the forum this evening. All this fuss about "nothing"?

Some guys fished Cricket/Long Creek Saturday and didn't do any good at all. They fished for crappie exclusively.

11:00 am Monday - water is off. This could be a new pattern that could go thru the draw down this week into this weekend and the following weeks. Water on in the am and off in the pm.

I would think they are... We used to pay our kids a penny each for picking them up around the resort. Accomplished two things... cleaned up the place plus made our kids absolutely sick of the smell and "yuky" part of smoking. It's like anything else- the mindset of some people and the lack of appreciation of what we've been given to take care of.

Marsha and I drove to the dam late today to take some pics, see what the water was like with the water off and to may be see and catch some trout. Did all of the above. When I walked up to look over outlet #2, I thought for sure the water was running alittle. Lots of current I thought. Yes there is more current in front of and up from #2 but water wasn't running. The area I like to fish above #2 is more shallow and faster current for sure but I didn't see very many fish holding there. But the wind was blowing and there was a chop on the water so it was hard to see. Didn't see many fish caught in outlet #2. Walked down below rebar. Rebar shoot is wider and more shallow I think but I didn't go there. There were too many people fishing it. Couple of kickers at the tree but they left quick. Caught several rainbows above the tree on a red san juan. Saw one nice brown, may be 6 lbs, cruising in and out of the deep water there. Worked down below the tree and caught several more rainbows. They looked good but didn't fight much. Nothing over 14 inches. Someone needs to take a chainsaw to that tree one night.... Trout really liked those worms... it was fun. Blew 4 horns at 5:45 so we got out. Pics later.

Taneycomo Report Saturday October 25th. 2008; Boated to the dam in the fog at really slow speed, as the Lake was just about at carrying capasity as far as fishermen were concerned. First drift from the cable to Clay Banks netted us 4 brightly colored bows and 1 very nice 18 inch brown. All fish were caught on a size 14 grey scud, fished on a drift rig. The scud being the lower fly on a tandem with a red Sanjuan about a ft. up. Nothing on the next drift, NODA. Third drift, we caught 4 more bows on the red-worm, this time. Next two drifts from the cable to the conservation ramp, nothing.... Told the clients this is the last drift, making one more before noon, and caught 6 bows, all on the scud. Boats were wall to wall, and at one point I counted 32, counting drift boats from the cable to the conservation ramp. Motored down past Andy's as the water fell out. Generators shut off around noon, and after the boys ate their beans, the water had stopped. Midging started along with lots or surface activity. Caught fish with great consistancy on zebras and sclupin 1/2 micro's. Could not for the life of us get them to hit the scud under an indicator. Tim Paige had his clients casting a 1/8 oz. sculpin jig with a scud attached 18 inches back. They were reeling the jig/scud combo right along the bottom very slowly, and I believe they caught dozens doing this. all on the moving scud. I would never have thought of this, and will probably never do it, but it was the bomb. Beck and Paige had started in the bait area below Fall Creek and said fishing was just about impossible with all the boat traffic. Boats running a high speed very close to drifting boats, and also having boats anchored in mid-lake with the water running at 4 generators. Just lots of folks out on a beaufiful day. Lake was stocked heavy on Friday from the Landing thru Monkey, so when the water goes off this week, I would say it will be really good down there. Stockers seemed to be very nice size in the 11 to 14 inch class.

Where are all the fishing reports???? I know some fished below the dam today. Water will probably be off for most of the day tomorrow too.

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If you search the forum for minimum flow, there's alot of info already posted on the flows. Also, see John Wilson's forum for information. http://flyfishingarkansasandmissouri.yuku.com/

Sounds like if you like to wade, Tuesday will be the day.