Phil Lilley

http://ozarkanglers.com/james_river/maps/full.jpg http://ozarkanglers.com/james_river/maps/lower1.jpg http://ozarkanglers.com/james_river/maps/lower2.jpg Extend the road on to the water and that's where McCord is. There's actually a village there- McCord Bend Village. Pay $2 bucks per car. Can camp but no facilities. There's a boat ramp- a pretty good one. The lake's level is up past Blunk quite a ways so it's flat water thru Blunk to McCord. I'd consider putting in at Kerr and floating to Blunk next time- more moving water.

This either shows there are no old timers viewing this forum or there are no old timers left. I'm sure the latter isn't true cause I'm an old timers given what I've said. Anyhow... Russ Penn 'Moses' They fished upper Taney in the 60's into the 90's almost everyday they could fish. Both have passed away.

Floated from the Y bridge to McCord today... started about 10 am and fished most of the chuts and pools before the river was swallowed up by the lake. Then we paddled out. Fished exclusively jigs - 1/16th to 1/8th depending on the pools and speed of the water - in sculpin or brown/orange. Caught lots of blue gill, a couple of dozen gogs out of one pool and 20 or so small mouth bass- the pics are of most of the better ones. Didn't measure any- but 14-15 inches was the biggest probably. Great day- great weather. No one on the water except us and 2 other boats.

Email from Chris Vitello, MDC I retrieved some updated information concerning hand fishing when I was in Jefferson City last week. A brief summary follows: 1. Since April 2000 a group of citizens has been campaigning for the legalization of hand fishing in Missouri, with a particular focus on flathead catfish. 2. During the past legislative session, the Department testified in opposition to the hand fishing bill. In considering the legalization of hand fishing, the Department's guiding principle, consistent with our mission, is to protect the long-term future of the species. The bill was not passed during the recently completed session. 3. An experimental hand fishing season for catfish began in 2005 to determine what effect hand fishing will have on catfish populations and whether such a season can be permitted without harm to the resource. This season is open only on selected waters (portions of the Fabius River system, portions of the Mississippi River and a part of the St. Francis River). We asked our biologists to lead a process to answer this question: "Will removing catfish from Missouri streams and rivers, while they are on the nest in June and July, have a long-term impact to the fishery resource?" A credible analysis of this question requires a multi-year effort. The Conservation Commission has implemented a study to find the answer to this and other related questions. CBV

What are you going to do for your get-to-gether this weekend? You're welcome to use our pavilion for a cookout one evening. Let me know.

Generation has been pretty consistant during the week- on about 3-4 pm and running till dark. How much has varied- 2-4 units from 705 to 708 ft. Weekends they've been running same time but less water and less time. Evening jig bite below the dam during generation is good. Depending on the volume of water - 1/16th to 1/8th oz jigs in sculpin, sculpin/ginger, olive/sculpin, brown, black and some white. Work them slow on close to the bottom. Rapalas also have been working good esp on browns. F-9's and 11's in gold, silver, rainbow and brown as well as pointers and other stick baits. Work them stop and go. I know of one guy who holds his boat in the current and runs deep divers down below the boat along channel cuts and into holes and has caught some nice browns in the last week. He runs a small 9.9 hp motor instead of anchoring so that he can manover back and forth, working the plug. Jim Johnson works deep divers on the Pere Marquette in his drift boat the same way- works the plug under trees and ledges along the banks. It works. Drifting egg flies below the dam will work great- use a split shot and a orange, yellow or white egg fly, drifting it on the bottom. This will work clear down to Fall Creek. I saw something that bothered my the other day at the dam. It was a guy fishing a drift rig using one of those laytex worms sold by Spirit River- you know the one we had a discussion about a couple of months ago. But he was fishing it dead in the water- no movement- just like bait. I didn't see him catch a fish but he acted like he had been- throwing it out just below the cable at the dam. If trout hit this like a real worm- no action what so ever- then what's the difference? The trout will swallow it like a real worm and it will kill 20% of what he catches- according to MDC stats. Off the box. Zebra midges- some new patterns have been brought to my attention. You'll see a thread talking about them. I guess they've been the hot ticket fly fishing below the dam lately. Quite a few nice rainbows being caught- minus a couple dozen taken out at outlet #1 tonight by 4 guys... but that's another post for later. Dries are also in the mix- #10 humpies I've heard are causing a splash below #2 and thru the rebar hole. Fishing from a boat from Lookout down has been spoty. Babler reports if the wind is blowing, they will absolutely eat up a ornage headed sculpin micro jig under a float fishing 4-5 feet deep. If the wind isn't blowing, sit in the boat will it does cause you won't get bit. Word is stockings have occured well below Cooper Creek lately and rainbows are being caught in that area and down to the bridges. Power Bait as well as cleos, jig and float using 1/80th oz ginger, brown, orange head/brown, black/yellow and white jigs under a float 5-6 feet deep and do look for wind/chop on the water.

Below are the upcoming events presented by the St. Louis County Department of Parks and Recreation. First, a personal note: I will soon be retiring from St. Louis County and moving on to new adventures. As my 30 year career with the department comes to an end I would like to thank all of you for your support and participation in our programs. It has been my distinct honor and privilege to be your public servant over the past three decades. In lieu of a traditional retirement party I have requested a fund raising roast to benefit a cancer charity that is personally important to me. Anyone interested in attending can get information by calling 636-391-3474. Again thanks for the good times and million great memories. Marty Koch Recreation Supervisor Now on to the event list! Faust Historic Village Open House Visitors to Faust Village may tour the 1850s Conway house home of Dr. Frederick and Lavinia Bates. Adjacent to the home is a period herb garden and outdoor kitchen. Also the circa 1848 log cabin of Ludwig and Salome Mertz, as well as, a dye and insect repellent garden, German vegetable garden, smokehouse, outhouse, and woodshed; the Davis House, which originally was a two story log cabin with it’s detached washhouse and smokehouse. On occasion, a blacksmith demonstrates in the Yokel Barn and blacksmith shop. In addition to the tours of these structures given by docents, visitors have the opportunity to examine the exteriors of the 1880s Hoch German brick house (currently under restoration), the Schlueter corn crib and the Sellenriek Barn. Call 636-532-7298 for more information. May 27-28, June 17-18, 24-25, July 22-23, 29-30 10 am-5 pm Free YOUTH FISHING LESSONS Instructors: Tim Emmons & Marty Koch Children ages 9-15 will learn the basics of fishing from an experienced outdoor professional. Kids will fish in a special pond open only to educational classes. Rods, reels, and bait are provided. Fishing is catch and release. Register early for this popular program. Call 636-391-0922 x 10. OA-14843 Wed May 31 6:30 -8 pm OA-14844 Wed Jun 7 6:30 -8 pm OA-14845 Wed Jun 14 6:30 -8 pm OA-14846 Wed Jun 21 6:30 -8 pm OA-14847 Wed Jun 28 6:30 -8 pm Suson Park, Spindler Shelter $5/child JUNE BASIC KAYAK COURSE Instructors: Alpine Shop One of our most popular clinics every year! No experience is necessary to learn how to kayak from three of Alpine Shop’s ACA Certified Instructors, but you must know how to swim. (You will get wet!). After you’ve spent four hours with us on the water, you’ll have all the basics of kayaking. This course teaches the basic strokes needed in flat or whitewater but emphasizes kayak touring. Boats and equipment provided. Students provide their own snacks, drinking water, hat, sunscreen and eyeglass retainers. This class is a prerequisite for the Intermediate and Advanced Kayaking courses. Minimum age requirement is 18. Advance registration required. On line registration for this course is not available. Call (636) 391-3474 to register. Discount package: Sign up for Basic, Intermediate, and Advance class at the same time and save $45. We strongly suggest attending one of our Intro to Kayaking: Dry Land Basics seminars before joining us on this trip. Ages 18 & Up OA-15090 Sat Jun 3 10:00 am-2:00 pm OA-15091 Sat Jun 3 2:30 -6:30 pm OA-15092 Sat Jun 10 10 am-2 pm OA-15093 Sat Jun 10 2:30 -6:30 pm OA-15094 Sat Jun 17 10 am-2 pm OA-15095 Sat Jun 17 2:30 -6:30 pm OA-15096 Sat Jul 8 10 am-2 pm OA-15097 Sat Jul 8 2:30 -6:30 pm OA-15098 Sat Jul 15 10 am-2 pm OA-15099 Sat Jul 15 2:30 -6:30 pm OA-15100 Sat Jul 29 10 am-2 pm OA-15101 Sat Jul 29 2:30 -6:30 pm OA-15102 Sat Aug 12 10 am-2 pm OA-15103 Sat Aug 12 2:30 -6:30 pm Simpson Park, Blue Heron Shelter $75/person BACKCOUNTRY NAVIGATION (MAP AND COMPASS) Instructor: Alpine Shop This class covers the basics of navigating with Topographical Maps and Compass in a remote environment. Learn to be confident of your position while traveling in the wilderness whether on or off trail. Join an experienced Alpine Shop Instructor for a class session and practical hike that will cover map reading, compass selection, route selection, lost position procedures, and efficiency of travel. Advance registration required. Call 636-391-3474 to register. On-line registration is not available for this course. OA-15061 Sat Jun 3 10 am-2 pm OA-15062 Sat Jul 15 10 am-2 pm OA-15063 Sat Sep 9 10 am-2 pm Greensfelder Park, Learning Center $20/person INTRODUCTION TO ORIENTEERING Orienteering is an exciting outdoor sport where you navigate using a map and compass to find a series of markers scattered throughout the forest and field. This course is designed to introduce the novice to the use of map and compass and the sport of Orienteering. All materials and supplies are included. Advance registration is required. Call 636-391-3474. OA-15267 Sat Jun 3 9:00 am-1:00 pm OA-15268 Sun Oct 1 9:00 am-1:00 pm Queeny Park, Mason Rd. Entrance $6/person BIG RIVER FISHING FLOAT While close to home the Big River is not heavily used. It is however, a first rate bass stream. We will float 6 miles of the river in the Smallmouth Bass special management area. Your fee includes canoe rental and expert hosts. We will self-shuttle our vehicles at the beginning and the end of the trip. Non-anglers are welcome. Advance registration is required. Call 636-391-3474. OA-15236 Sun Jun 4 9 am-6 pm Big River, Mamouth Access $22/person INTRO TO KAYAKING-DRY LAND BASICS Instructor: Alpine Shop This course is strongly recommended for anyone taking Alpine Shop’s Basic Kayaking course or any other introductory kayak clinic. Kayaks continue to explode in popularity throughout the Midwest and for good reason: they’re great fun and good exercise! But without knowing the basics, it’s hard to know where to start. Alpine Shop Paddlesports Director Rich Orr will help take care of that on dry land tonight. He’ll go over all the basics: from the equipment you’ll need, to the different styles of kayaks on the water. This clinic covers the basics of all kayaking but is geared towards touring and recreational kayaks. This course is free! Call the Alpine Shop at 314-962-7715 to register. June 6, July 11, August 1 7 -8:30 pm Alpine Shop, 440 N. Kirkwood Rd. (Lindbergh) Free YOUTH FISHING LESSONS Instructors: Tim Emmons & Marty Koch Children ages 9-15 will learn the basics of fishing from an experienced outdoor professional. Kids will fish in a special pond open only to educational classes. Rods, reels, and bait are provided. Fishing is catch and release. Register early for this popular program. Call 636-391-0922 x 10. OA-14844 Wed Jun 7 6:30 -8 pm OA-14845 Wed Jun 14 6:30 -8 pm OA-14846 Wed Jun 21 6:30 -8 pm OA-14847 Wed Jun 28 6:30 -8 pm Suson Park, Spindler Shelter $5/child KMOX FAMILY FISHING FAIR Don’t miss the KMOX Family Fishing Day. . Enjoy activities for the whole family. This FREE day of family fishing fun is hosted by KMOX’s Outdoors Dan Young. There will be food and snacks along with plenty of fun activities for the kids. Free fishing weekend-no license required. For information call 636-391-3474. OA-15270 Sat Jun 10 8:30 am-2:00 pm Suson Park. Free BASIC KAYAK COURSE Instructors: Alpine Shop One of our most popular clinics every year! No experience is necessary to learn how to kayak from three of Alpine Shop’s ACA Certified Instructors, but you must know how to swim. (You will get wet!). After you’ve spent four hours with us on the water, you’ll have all the basics of kayaking. This course teaches the basic strokes needed in flat or whitewater but emphasizes kayak touring. Boats and equipment provided. Students provide their own snacks, drinking water, hat, sunscreen and eyeglass retainers. This class is a prerequisite for the Intermediate and Advanced Kayaking courses. Minimum age requirement is 18. Advance registration required. On line registration for this course is not available. Call (636) 391-3474 to register. Discount package: Sign up for Basic, Intermediate, and Advance class at the same time and save $45. We strongly suggest attending one of our Intro to Kayaking: Dry Land Basics seminars before joining us on this trip. Ages 18 & Up OA-15092 Sat Jun 10 10 am-2 pm OA-15093 Sat Jun 10 2:30 -6:30 pm OA-15094 Sat Jun 17 10 am-2 pm OA-15095 Sat Jun 17 2:30 -6:30 pm OA-15096 Sat Jul 8 10 am-2 pm OA-15097 Sat Jul 8 2:30 -6:30 pm OA-15098 Sat Jul 15 10 am-2 pm OA-15099 Sat Jul 15 2:30 -6:30 pm OA-15100 Sat Jul 29 10 am-2 pm OA-15101 Sat Jul 29 2:30 -6:30 pm OA-15102 Sat Aug 12 10 am-2 pm OA-15103 Sat Aug 12 2:30 -6:30 pm Simpson Park, Blue Heron Shelter $75/person TWILIGHT ICE GRASS SLEDDING AND DINNER FOR ADULTS Program Coordinator: Deborah Bohnert Ok folks, grab your honey & come to the park for a really unique evening of FUN! "Grass Ice Sled," without snow by torchlight, followed by a romantic dinner and live music under the moon and stars. Your delicious meal will include spring salad, baked potato, beans, smoked breast of chicken, dessert and a drink of your choice. Right after dinner there will be string musicians playing or you may continue grass sledding under torch light. Please wear old clothes, bring a heavy towel or carpet square and a lawn chair or blanket to gather around our musicians. Adults only please. Advance registration is required. Call 636-391-0922 for more information. OA-14787 Sat Jun 10 6 -9:30 pm Sioux Passage Park $17/person FAWN WALK Leader: Dennis Hogan Spring is the time when the new born elk, deer and bison join the herds of wildlife at Lone Elk Park. Join a Park Naturalist and search the hills and valleys looking for the new borns. In addition, learn about the history of the park and its days as a military installation during the 1940's and 50's. Participants will encounter steep, rocky trails. Advance registration is required. For more information about this program or to register call 636-391-0922. OA-14919 Sat Jun 10 10 am-12 pm Lone Elk Park, Visitor Center $3/person SECOND SATURDAY LATE NITGHT FISHING Every second Saturday of the month, April – October we leave Suson, Simpson, and Spanish Lake parks open till 11 pm for late night fishing. Bring your poles, baits and lanterns and fish until the wee hours. Fishing is permitted from the bank only. No fee for program. For information call 636-391-3474. OA-14984 June 10 6 -11 pm Suson Park Simpson Park Spanish Lake Park Free MERAMEC RIVER TROUT FLOAT The Meramec River near St. James is a really good trout stream. Join us for our annual float to fish for Rainbow and Brown Trout on this fabled stretch of water. Fee includes canoe rental and expert hosts. Advance registration is required. Call 636-391-3474 for information or reservations. Min. Age 12. OA-15237 Sun Jun 11 8:00 am-6:00 pm $22/person Meramec River, St. James, MO YOUTH FISHING DAY CAMP Camp Directors: Tim Emmons & Joel Monk St. Louis' only "fishing" day camp is a big hit with kids ages 9 to 14! St. Louis County Park Rangers will conduct the camp where children will spend the week learning to be good anglers. Each day the group will venture out to a new fishing location. Also included is an afternoon of swimming at one of the county pools and a pizza party on Friday. All fishing equipment will be provided. Advance registration is required. Ages 9 -14. Call 636-391-3474 for more information. OA-14665 Mon-Fri Jun 12 - Jun 16 8:30 am-3:30 pm Queeny Park OA-14868 Mon-Fri Jul 10 - Jul 14 8:30 am-3:30 pm Suson Park $130.00/5 sessions YOUTH FISHING LESSONS Instructors: Tim Emmons & Marty Koch Children ages 9-15 will learn the basics of fishing from an experienced outdoor professional. Kids will fish in a special pond open only to educational classes. Rods, reels, and bait are provided. Fishing is catch and release. Register early for this popular program. Call 636-391-0922 x 10. OA-14845 Wed Jun 14 6:30 -8 pm OA-14846 Wed Jun 21 6:30 -8 pm OA-14847 Wed Jun 28 6:30 -8 pm Suson Park, Spindler Shelter $5/child BASIC KAYAK COURSE Instructors: Alpine Shop One of our most popular clinics every year! No experience is necessary to learn how to kayak from three of Alpine Shop’s ACA Certified Instructors, but you must know how to swim. (You will get wet!). After you’ve spent four hours with us on the water, you’ll have all the basics of kayaking. This course teaches the basic strokes needed in flat or whitewater but emphasizes kayak touring. Boats and equipment provided. Students provide their own snacks, drinking water, hat, sunscreen and eyeglass retainers. This class is a prerequisite for the Intermediate and Advanced Kayaking courses. Minimum age requirement is 18. Advance registration required. On line registration for this course is not available. Call (636) 391-3474 to register. Discount package: Sign up for Basic, Intermediate, and Advance class at the same time and save $45. We strongly suggest attending one of our Intro to Kayaking: Dry Land Basics seminars before joining us on this trip. Ages 18 & Up OA-15094 Sat Jun 17 10 am-2 pm OA-15095 Sat Jun 17 2:30 -6:30 pm OA-15096 Sat Jul 8 10 am-2 pm OA-15097 Sat Jul 8 2:30 -6:30 pm OA-15098 Sat Jul 15 10 am-2 pm OA-15099 Sat Jul 15 2:30 -6:30 pm OA-15100 Sat Jul 29 10 am-2 pm OA-15101 Sat Jul 29 2:30 -6:30 pm OA-15102 Sat Aug 12 10 am-2 pm OA-15103 Sat Aug 12 2:30 -6:30 pm Simpson Park, Blue Heron Shelter $75/person WETLAND PRAIRIE DISCOVERY Leader: Dennis Hogan Join a Park Naturalist and explore the unique 700-acre restoration that is taking place at Little Creve Coeur. Once an ox-bow lake formed by the Missouri River, Little Creve Coeur Wetlands were drained and plowed eliminating what once was a rich natural community. Now it is time to restore one of the largest remaining natural wetlands in St. Louis County. We are going to explore the natural wetland basin and the surrounding prairies, with their unique flora and fauna. Bring a pair of binoculars, the birding is fabulous. Advance registration is required. For more information or to register for this program call 636-391-0922. OA-14922 Sat Jun 17 10 am-1 pm Creve Coeur Park, West Side Soccer Field Lot. $3/person Faust Historic Village Open House Visitors to Faust Village may tour the 1850s Conway house home of Dr. Frederick and Lavinia Bates. Adjacent to the home is a period herb garden and outdoor kitchen. Also the circa 1848 log cabin of Ludwig and Salome Mertz, as well as, a dye and insect repellent garden, German vegetable garden, smokehouse, outhouse, and woodshed; the Davis House, which originally was a two story log cabin with it’s detached washhouse and smokehouse. On occasion, a blacksmith demonstrates in the Yokel Barn and blacksmith shop. In addition to the tours of these structures given by docents, visitors have the opportunity to examine the exteriors of the 1880s Hoch German brick house (currently under restoration), the Schlueter corn crib and the Sellenriek Barn. Call 636-532-7298 for more information. June 17-18, 24-25, July 22-23, 29-30 10 am-5 pm Free WILDERNESS 1ST AID CERTIFICATION.- REMOTE AREA RESCUE Instructors: Alpine Shop This is a fourteen-hour, highly intensive class in Wilderness Medicine and basic rescue procedures. The certification meets the requirements for the American Camping Association, the Boy Scouts of America, and National Park Service. Senior instructors hold a minimum of an NREMT-W license and have significant experience in mountain rescue and backcountry travel. Students will receive rigorous instruction in assessment procedures as well as generalized and specific medical issues that are commonplace in a backcountry or remote setting. Topics include: body systems, hot/cold injuries, anaphylaxis, trauma, communication/extraction, expedition medical planning, and improvised vital monitoring. This course does NOT include CPR/AED training. Students will participate in highly realistic simulation scenarios that model actual backcountry emergencies. The curriculum is fast paced, but exciting and dynamic in scope and content. The knowledge provided in this class is a must for anyone who spends time in remote areas or undertaking outdoor activities. Ages 18 & up. Registrations are handled by phone only at 636-391-3474. On-line registration is not available for this program. OA-15074 Sat Jun 17 6 am-8 pm OA-15075 Sat Aug 12 6 am-8 pm OA-15076 Sat Nov 4 6 am-8 pm Alpine Shop, 440 N Kirkwood Rd. (Lindbergh) $125/person

Better watch the water- their runnin' some.

I think we'll go float the lower James... won't have to bother with Ark lisc for the others going.

Talked to Riverside Canoe Rental and the lady said the river was very low. She recommended I not float tomorrow unless we get some rain. Very honest people they are...

Sounds like hybrids but big whites could do the same. I've fished off Bird Island in the past- evening into the night over light- and done very well on whites and crappie.

Ours will not be open. There's a ramp right next door to us at Ozark Trout Resort or if you want to go to Cooper (less than a mile) one of us can run you down there and help out- no problem. Regardless, we'll get you in and out of the water.

I talked to a friend who talked to a friend (advid Spring River/Honey Creek/Elk River white bass angler) who said they tore up the whites Saturday in the Honey Creek area. No details but they caught whites on every cast practically. Wily- glad you refreshed my memory. I wanted to post the report. Now we have caught hybrids up in Elk starting about now into June before but haven't seemed to find them for several years now. May be this is the year for us!

Just the road from the dam- south side- down to rocking chair.

William McCorkle sent me a link to Gary Groman's site and an article he posted on several zebras created by Stan and Carolyn at River Run - http://www.bransoncourier.com/article.php?news_ID=525 P&R is in there.

That's what I heard. The whole thing. Guess we'll have to come up with a new name.. again.

Rusty came in the shop yesterday and showed us a zebra #18 with a flash body, copper bead head and x-sm copper wire wrap. That could be a Primrose and Pearl Zebra. He bought it at River Run but I'm sure we'll have some in our shop very soon. He said it was the best fly of the trip. It looked great. Copper Dunn - copper bead and wrap with a dunn thread body? I've seen real small midge larva - dunn color. Ugly- you got me. Rusty - ask Rusty. It could be his Pearl Zebra.

Welcome. How did your spring season go... for crappie and bass? Catfish should be getting good about now.

I've seen 2 browns but not at the same time. One is short and fat and the other is normal length. Both are over 4-5 pounds though. Big spots- very pretty. The camera is at the same place pointing the same direction. It's just getting clearer and we've been able to clear the moss from around the cleaning shack to let more light in.

Conservation Dinner? Wonder what that is about? Drove down the new street last evening... our church had a prayer walk thru the area but we didn't get out of the office till 7 so we were late. Didn't miss the custard afterwards though Different, almost erry, seeing all the new buildings up close. A totally different place. They've moved in a huge crane- I guess they are starting the highrises next. If you think it's different now, wait till they build the hotels and convention centers.

My guess would be the balance of numbers and size of both game fish and forage fish. If you keep the balance just right, targeting, say, crappie, then you can better control the outcome in a smaller body of water.

Just got in from church- come on down.

Don't have this gentleman's name but he caught this 4 lb rainbow yesterday off the dock using minnows- I think. I'll have to varify the facts tomorrow with Jerry. Rumors of a 9 lb rainbow caught last night are circurlating but no proof offered yes.

Nope- it will be crowded. Holiday weekends you can't avoid it. But I've found later in the day isn't bad at all. Most have caught their limit and headed for the shows.

I didn't go - I was in Springfield looking at new computers to drive more trout cams (important business you know). But I heard it's something else and looking at the pics in the Springfield paper, it looks it. http://www.news-leader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...EWS02/605270352 Did Bass Pro open? Didn't see where they did or didn't.