Phil Lilley

Thanks - welcome. Phil

Brett Rader took pics and mentioned in a report recently about seeing and netting small rainbow fry below the dam. Brian Shaffer brought this to my attention so I checked it out. I emailed James Cevillo, Shepherd of the Hills Hatchery manager, and ask him to take a look and comment. He said if Bret is correct and there's that many fry along the banks, then there must be some natural reproduction happening. These rainbows could not have escaped from the hatchery, he said. So what's the difference this season compared to others? No flow. I would say the beds at the top of rebar and others were left alone from hard generation long enough that the process of reproduction was given a chance and succeeded. Brett's site, to give him credit - http://charteredwaters.com

What was the water temp? I hope LOZ doesn't have the same issues that we're having on Table Rock.

I have alittle experience in fishing with submergable lights but not this early and not for crappies but I'm going to try. What I understand - 1. Anchor in at least 40 feet of water near structure like a bluff end and/or standing timber. You need at least 40 feet to make room for the shad to gather under the light and the game fish to gather under the shad. 2. Fish just outside or under the shad, not in the middle of the "ball of shad". 3. Take a throw net and net the shad or use minnows or jigs. I usually don't night fish till the first dark moon of June and July. This will be a first.

What about night fishing under lights in that area or an area like that- bluuf, deep water and standing timber? I was going last night until my son came home from a weekend jaunt with his girlfriend and we watched "Crash" / Clean Flicks version. I wish I'd gone, although the movie was interesting. I plan on going tonight.

Sounds like one of my bird hunting trips to Altamont... over and back in one day.

When!!?? When did you limit? Give it up!!

Vince and I were talking about just that yesterday... we though they suspend someplace in groups- mid lake, bluffs around trees... you're right - you never see them (or at least I don't) accept this time of year. Ours were full of crawdads- I'm taking an 1/8th oz sculpin jig next time I go and work it off the bottom- I bet I catch lots more of them!

Here's another pointer. Every time I go on the forum (http://ozarkanglers.com/forums/)I hit the 'View New Posts' link located at the top right bar of each page. This brings up all the new posts since my last visit. If I've read all the posts, I hit 'Your topics - Mark all forums as read and return to index' link centered on the blue bar at the top of the first forum text box. This clears the board for me for the next time I visit.

Oh they should be. Leonard may be out of town so he may not answer, being the authority on night fishing that he is. The lake is low though - 701.0!! I hate it when Empire/Powersite draws the lake down like this.

Could it be the rise in water temp- so fast this year they are confused. My question is will a crappie- or any fish- that's used to spawning in say 60 degrees- go ahead and spawn if the surface/bank water temp shoots to 70? Which it has in many places. That's really what I wanted to hear- thanks for the comment. Any others?

I put in there today... it looked like to me the water level is such that the ramp is unuseable where it's been blocked and the extention of the ramp is the same reason the docks aren't in the water- there's no ramp there. I didn't look that close but that's what I think.

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With all I do at the computer- this forum and OA's website- it's been hard to sit and type on my blog. But I'm watching the office and it's quiet- accept for the Card's game on TV. Been working to finish Table Rock's maps- the west side of the lake. In all I think there's 12 maps on the west side. I'm waiting on Babler and Loving to mark them for us. What's next? Not sure. I've done the James River- might do the Kings next- neither can you find maps for anyplace. The Buffalo could be on my short list. I'd like others on the forum to have a chance to mark up the maps but it would be hard to do so. Can you believe this drought? My My---- this will be a very interesting summer for all these lakes in SW Missouri- boating and marinas will be really hurting. I fished close to State Park today and they don't have much room around their back docks now- if the water drops 5-7 feet more they will have a hard time getting boats out. Taneycomo- I'm asking for a meeting with MDC to discuss our situation. No flow and hot temps will mean high temps for our trout. At what time will they consider emergency generation? Will the Corp work with us? They have in the past. But if you're coming this summer, don't expect much generation. The streams- canoe outfitters will have a tough time. North Fork will see alot of business will the springs run low. Elevenpoint and Current too. But the others will have a slow season I'm afraid. Crappie fishing- I've only caught a fraction of what I caught last year but last year was a banner year for most of us. And I didn't get out as much and at the right times. White bass- I caught some early over at the Spring River in NE OK but not many here. Again- didn't get out to fish for them. Trout- its' been great everytime I've been out. Traffic on the website has leveled off in April- even dropped a bit. But I've been in this for 9 years- I'm in it for the long run- keep adding information and hopefully recruit others to help and it will do fine. Word of mouth is still the best advertising. I want to do a contest of some sort (for the forum members). Still trying to think of something. I'm open to suggestions. Cams- I still want to add lake cams. I'm going to have to buy another computer to do that. I have the cameras ready to go. I found out it's not a matter of bandwidth- it's my old computer I'm using for a server.

Build a house on Table Rock Dam... Really- I don't think you could go wrong building on Table Rock... just depends on your budget where.

There are alot of ways to view the forum- maybe too many. I'm still learning myself. When you look at the buy-sell-trade forum, do you open here? http://ozarkanglers.com/forums/index.php?showforum=23 or someplace else?

Vince and I put in at State Park and started right there and went into the marina cove fishing grubs, smoke, along the bank- 6:30 am. We caught nice goggleye and bass- kentuckies and smallmouth. Mad 10 keeper, very nice gogs and 6 keeper bass plus smaller ones before 8 am. We tried some other main lakes banks towards the dam with little success. The fish were off the bank 8-12 feet dee I'd say. Some of the bass showed signs of spawning- rubbed tails and bellies. Kept the gogs- released all bass.

Not sure what you mean... I just checked the listing and you're #2 from the top. Your listing hasn't been moved to another forum- not sure what you mean by "bumped". If you mean to ask if you or I could "pin" your topic to the top, I would have to pin everyone's and then the same thing would happen... the newest pinned topic would move the old ones down. Please clarify. I do want to help if I can.

Jim's website is up - http://www.naknekrivercamp.net/ Phil

Talked to several friends who have fished Long Creek the last couple of days... this evening was a bust for them, declining the last 3 days. Are they done? Cool front moved them off for a delay? Everything caught the last several days have been mainly males close to the banks with some females with eggs. Haven't talked to anyone who has caught many spawned out sows. Just wanted to get an opinion overall of the season for everyone. Break it down to areas of the lake, ie Kings, James, Long...

That's more than what showed for the fish-talk last spring-summer? The meeting at the Taney Center. That's good. Is this a common occurance on Corp lakes or is just a Bull Shoals issue I wonder.

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How many showed up? Did MDC seemed to sympathize with anybody? In the past when they've had meetings like this, they do bring alot of MDC people in- local, regional and state. It shows they care, I guess. I wish I could have gone...

Just hit the banks that look good for crappie- transision- pea gravel+some rock- anyplace there's brush. Don't assume they're on the bank- fish off the banks 10-15 feet around trees. Try bluff banks around standing timber 10 feet deep. I'd head towards Long (south). Troll- for whites I'd go into Clevenger and troll the north bank for whites (channel bank).

What part of the "run" is it? Pre- "it's time" or post for -whites -hybrids -crappie Hey von- put a bug in the Station's ear and have them post a report. Thanks!