Chief Grey Bear

Way to go there guy's! That is about the best self portrait I have seen of you FT57.

It wouldn't matter QB, you can't understand simple logic, no matter how simple or complex it is explained to you.

I have quoted what OB said in its entirety as it pertains to this conversation. I will try and explain to you once again and hope that you can comprehend this time. As you will note in the first sentence of OB's quote he asked if you are smart enough to realize that 2% of any offending compound, meaning a substance of your choice, that contains in its make up, meaning what it consists of, or made out of, will be far less toxic, meaning less dangerous to you and me and everything in the environment, meaning anything, anyplace on earth, meaning the planet we live on, than something that contains, meaning consists of, meaning made of, 96% of the offending, meaning dangerous compound. In short if you played in the hiway and 2 cars came by, you stand a far better chance of not getting hit than if 96 cars came by. Nowhere in that did he compare brass and or tungsten. And all he said about brass was that according to Zarra's link to the article, it stated that brass can be manufactured without any lead. In the post in question, I find no evidence that leads to the conculsion that OB compared the toxcity of lead, brass or tungsten. And to answer your question as to my knowledge of the toxcity of tungsten, last year when this same topic came up, I did a fair amount research on the subject. It would be a futile attempt on my part to share that reseach here, with those that obvioulsy have their minds made up on the subject. There has been some great knowledgable commentary already posted on the subject here only to be subjected to ridicule and speculation.

QB, are you sure you read and understood what OB stated? I think that has been one of the major problems of this whole thread. And some other threads I can think of too. Let me help you out here. OB never stated that Tungsten was ok. He stated that it would have less lead toxicity than pure lead. 2% is < 96% agreed?????

You are so right!! Ever since them liberal BassTurds banned DDT, and we lost of all of those jobs,.........

That is great news. Hope that other wacko judge doesn't try and throw it out! Thanks for posting this.

Ahh, I don't know. I am thinking about the first or second weekend in October.

If you were serious about saving birds you would be crying for the eradication of cats. They kill more birds than any windmill ever will. But I believe we are discussing lead, not windmills.

If we know it is or it can be harmful, why do we need to wast more tax payer monies on studies? In all reality it is a minor inconvenience for us that does a greater good for the environment. I think we can agree on that???????

Getting to be??? Let me confirm that for you.

Hey sweet deal. Send me a report!!!!!! I had a creek I was going to hit, but I am down here at T-Rock.

Now I can agree with your presentation here. But on the flip side, why wait until it becomes a huge problem. If we can nip it in the bud slowly and incrementaly now, it won't come a huge shock later. Oh really? I have my opinion on a subject and occasionally share it. Unlike you who will post a 1 or 2 liner attempting to appear intelligent and above the low brow subject by belittling someone. If you have nothing to add to the discussion, then don't.

Well wayne, I am not sure how old you are but, please feel free to reinstall lead pipes in your house and drink from a lead beaker. We will then take a yearly blood test from you and compare the results over time. Also feel free to swallow a 1/16 lead sinker with your vitamins every day. See if that has any effect on you. Surely you're not scared to are you?

He used to stalk me. He'll tire soon and move to someone else. In the mean time, make no apologies for your opinion. Unless of course they are in direct contrast to mine. And in that situation you shall submit quickly. Ok, maybe not. I backed out of this one somewhat early on. It was clearly evident that common sense and a small amount of research would get you no where. You can not teach those that refuse to learn. Boy, that should become a famous quote someday. Like carved in stone above some government building.

Did you ever decide when and where???????

Take a walk down the fishing isle and read some lables next time you are at your favorite bait shop. Most sinkers are already coming from china. Hell we don't make anything in this country anymore. I don't want to turn this into a political thread or take it off track so I better shut up now.

Ummmmm, ain't you forgetting someone?????

I will offer my services as ref. I haven't fished Stockton lake since the early to mid 80's.

I think for the most part, the majority of us are responsible. As anyone that has fished with me can attest to, if I get hung up, I go swiming. Even if I am fishing with soft plastics. And I have instilled that in my son too. That is just the way I roll. You may not want some governmnet genius telling you when, where and how you can fish but, I for one am darn glad they do. If they didn't, I seriously doubt we would even be having this converstaion. Check out the Wildlife Code book sometime. They have covered everthing there is to fishing. And those regulations have come from decades of research and continue to be updated as fishing continues to evolve.

(Big Sigh) work.

Easy for you to say. We just hit with 10" of rain. I am screwed. I guess I may make a trip to Bass Pro. Anyone want to meet up?

That is a great idea. There are so many of the old rivermen that trapped and fished and of course hunted and you just can't believe the volumns of information that I have been lucky enough to have learned from them all. I wish now I would have paid more attention then instead of taking it all for granted. Thanks for the link. Very good read.

Here it is. http://ozarkanglers.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16545

We had a similar discussion, last year I think, when the DNR, I think, ban lead on its waters. Heck I can't remember, I'll look back and see if I can find it.

And so is plutonium and uranium. Try a spoonfull of one of those.