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https://www.outdoorlife.com/why-we-are-losing-hunters-and-how-to-fix-it/
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Now go catch some fish for those who can’t get out
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Being metaphorical or telling it as a fictional story to teach, its a time honored practice...I was insensitive to you and I apologize. But if you feel the need to personal attacking then feel free to do so
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You have a valid point, I think we forget sometimes healthcare is a business, curing isn’t as profitable as chronic treating...
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In closing it’s a complex issue, one that like the HIV studies, found treatments beyond the scope of just HIV...perhaps we will see this in all this Prion studies will effect treatments of things like cancer and diabetes... the MDC in my opinion does pretty well once they focus on an issue, LD just declared war on them
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Also if you don’t like the message you discredit the messenger
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It’s like déjà vu all over again...think the NSSF is doing this to calm public fears out of the kindness of their hearts? Or to stem the loss of deer hunting related profits? If you look you can find it...my understanding LD caused a ruckus on a CWD article that caused a few deer hunting dependent businesses to lose sales, thus threatening to pull their ad dollars or drop LD’s column...and that got it rolling...at the behest of some deer dependent businesses, the MDC responded...( buddies with said slighted business owner) and the whole “CWD isn’t catching...however just in case...” https://www.nssf.org/you-may-be-surprised-to-know-6-health-benefits-of-eating-venison-infographic/
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.yes it is over blown media is like that... just like aids/ hiv was in the early 80s then alt lifestyle people started donating blood to infect regular lifestyle people with HIV... issue here is human dementia tested for what caused it or what type? Almost never...should you stop eating venison? Untested? Many people have...and that costs some $...big thing now is to see who is behind funding the studies...or public spin, just ask yourself why? I am sure you can see the parallels. https://www.wideopenspaces.com/27-reasons-eat-venison-instead-beef-infographic/
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Larry D has his issues however to think pressure to keep a Billion $$$ a year in Missouri alone industry chugging along is naïve or complicit... perhaps because I’m older and remember to what lengths the tobacco industry went to throw fear-uncertainty-and doubt into the mix...same stuff going on with vaping till the gov hammer comes down...by them a few million more nicotine addictions in our youth
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Here yah go https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2019/06/14/deadly-deer-disease-is-spreading-could-it-strike-people-too/
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Well you get an F for lab...I have been trying to dumb this down for those never educated in the biological sciences past 9th grade...and I have failed so I’ll try this step one the structure of a sick protein in deer (CWD) the most common occurring has a “hard loop” that makes it unlikely, but not zero chance of “infecting” a human (see below) remember because on the test you will draw the two sick vs normal step two There are types of the proteins that have a different structure than the most commonly encountered CWD that has shown itself to be more likely to “infect” primates
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Exactly
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Ok see if I can explain this s l o w l y If a rent a chick goes to a store and buys a bikini and wears it to LOZ, then ten years later your wife finds just the bottoms in some corner of your love boat and now it’s a speedo your forced to wear at the lake....get it? Same sickness different animal if you got sick and had a meal at some dudes funeral in New Guinea , then they would have said Kuru, how many people you know have had Alzheimer’s and had an autopsy? as far as people go, takes 10 years to show up, it’s not like “ I ate deer the last 10 years and nothing happened, then you get slammed with dementia. personality I think the new regs to bump up land acreage Required To get land owner tags isn’t $$$ grubbing but less billy bobs butchering his own meat at home, dumping contaminated carcass to effect other wildlife spreading the CWD, regs will get ramped up on requirements and control to get all deer tested or at least better tracked
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Found this and it thought I’d share all you blast and casters, loose the boat get in a tube, yak or canoe he’ll break out the shorts and old tennis shoes...good times
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If you ate CWD positive meat and you got Sick from it 10 years from now it won’t be CWD because that name is for prion sickness in people it would be CJD, understand? Eating or touching-venison at this point that even has a hint of a possibility is like spinning the Cylinder Of a .357 and putting it to your head, you eats dah meat and takes yah chances
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Some studies are suggesting “ dementia” based deaths diets related, some may be more genetically vulnerable, yet since no-one was doing much study or testing 1986 was the 1st real outbreak in modern times (mad cow disease ) the incubation time is decades, we all know someone who has been afflicted by Alzheimer’s, who knows if it was from prions in beef, venison or wheat or corn from contaminated by deer or cattle afflicted by prions, now a great deal of effort is being applied to see patterns. Some CWD Deniers conspiracy theorists suggest it Is a smokescreen for the vegan agenda 🙄 I hope it’s not as bad as it’s potential suggests, but you can smoke, expose yourself to chemicals, heavy metals it’s like playing Yahtzee with extra dice you die when you hit so many 🎲 It’s an odds thing
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Being a weird sickness, and it’s way to persist in the environment, be taken up in living plants, cooking doesn’t destroy it, and a incubation period if you will of years to decades makes this a scary situation, we may see total Eradication of some areas, since the man died from eating squirrel brains, the whole prion situation going to be here a while
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It’s not a virus, it’s a rogue protein, we do not totally understand why it goes rogue
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Perhaps you are right but he’s not the only squeaky wheel on the CWD subject
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I think Larry has an ax to grind, but I think most states are busting their humps to figure this thing out... he has a point CWD is what they call “transmissible spongiform encephalopathies (TSE).” In deer but if you ate and contracted a TSE from a CWD contaminated deer, YOUR death certificate in the 10 or so years it would take from said venison meal to become symptomatic would be called Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease
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here's this week's outdoor newspaper column, which several of my newspapers were afraid to print... like the bible says... some of you may know the truth, and some of you may not!!! New Regulations on Landowner Tags Last year during the deer season, an upper level employee of the Missouri Department of Conservation confided in me that it had already been decided that landowner permits were a big problem for the Department’s need for more funds. He wrote, “It has already been decided that the thousands of 20-acre landowner’s could bring in hundreds of thousands of dollars if they had to purchase deer tags.” He told me exactly what would happen, stating that anyone with 20 acres or less would not be allowed to hunt deer without paying. This fall deer season, you will see that come to fruition, in order to create more money from deer tag sales. The new rule will be that you must own 21 acres or more, to get free landowner tags. Much of this stems from the fact that in time, more and more deer hunters will begin to learn all there is to know about the disease called Chronic Wasting, and no longer buy deer tags. Soon, all the prion-related diseases, which have been called Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathy when it has killed humans, will start to be recognized as the same disease. That is a stone cold fact, and while you can talk about this strain or that strain, the truth is that a mutated protein called a prion is the basis of all those diseases regardless of the name given. There has been a great effort to keep that from becoming known to hunters. The assertion that CWD has not killed humans is not true, but it has been accepted that people cannot get it by eating diseased deer meat. If you believe that, find me one scientist or MDC employee who will eat the meat from a CWD infected deer? Makes you think doesn’t it? When all the research is known, there will be many, like me, who do not hunt deer again. It is a fact that during the deer season, all the citations written for deer-hunting violations are by and large given to those hunters who have called in deer kills through the MDC ‘telecheck’ system. If you haven’t read the letter sent to me by a retired enforcement official which outlines all that, you should read it on my website now. Find it on the computer at larrydablemontoutdoors.blogspot.com. Now that landowners who own small tracts can no longer get free permits to hunt deer, there will be a backlash the MDC has not counted on. Many who own 15 to 20 acres will simply kill a deer when they want, with no tags whatsoever, clean it where it falls, keep the loins and hams and tell no one. Since it will not be called in, it will never be known to agents who by and large, work from that phone check system and seldom walk back into privately owned woods unless their vehicle can take them there. I own a 20-acre tract and if I wanted to eat venison, I would do the same thing. And in doing it, there would be no evidence of it that anyone would see unless they looked in my freezer. That is hypothetical of course, because I have never willingly violated game laws anywhere and do not intend to. Because of the studies and research I have looked into gives me knowledge of this TSE disease, I will never hunt deer again. Why should anyone miss time in the outdoors because they no longer hunt deer? During that time there is great hunting for prairie grouse, pheasant and waterfowl in neighboring states, great waterfowl hunting in Missouri and excellent fishing during November as well. I enjoy all of it so much more than hunting deer. In controlling the media to the extent they do, the MDC has kept the truth about CWD from being known, but they cannot do that forever. I have talked to at least six landowners recently who have found terribly emaciated deer on their land, and each has called MDC personnel to report it. Each of the six say know one ever came to investigate the sick deer! I have photographs of two of those deer, which you can see on that computer site given above. I don’t know what a mess we will face in the future when all the facts come out and deer-hunters begin to know the truth about this disease, but I know what the truth is and you can’t hide it forever. I say again that when you hear someone saying that CWD is of no danger to humans, you are hearing it from someone who will not, for any amount of money, eat venison from a CWD deer. Many of the newspapers I write for will not publish this column because of the clamp down the Department of Conservation has on opinions they do not want heard. The power of that agency is tremendous. The real shame of all this is that printed facts from research done by the best scientific people and doctors in the Midwest concerning TSE or CWD or whatever you want to call it, also is restricted in most all news media outlets throughout the Midwest. This much is certain… hundreds and perhaps thousands of people have died from prions in the brain, a disease called TSE. I have not talked to one doctor out of a dozen or so that have not told me that the disease, whether you call it CWD or TSE or mad-cow disease or whatever, has likely killed many people who were misdiagnosed. You will likely never see this in print, but when brain tissue of 230 elderly men who were said to have died of Alzheimer’s disease was examined after death, those TSE prions were found in 30 of them. Why can’t this be printed? Anyway, this year if you own 20 acres or less-- no more landowner permits for you. In a few years it will be extended to 40 acres or less. If you find sick deer on your land, please call the MDC and report it, and let me know if no one comes. Write to me at Box 22, Bolivar, Mo. 65613 or email me at lightninridge47@gmail.com If you would like to get a copy of my magazine, or tell me of sick deer you have found, call my office phone, 417 777 5227
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Two tone https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/11745089/End-of-the-line-for-giant-carp-Two-Tone-after-body-rejected-by-Natural-History-Museum.html
