the IN~PUT is great thank you ! but i'm not taking the scenic river route, or waters used by any other outfitters. my plan is to stay with the smaller waters . i have a list , of weekend fishing people that don't want to go after the trophy, or record breaking trips. this might sound silly to the (big guides) but all they want is to be more like a fishing buddy. to be called up and hit the water for a day, or weekend trip. i have taken 4 outtings so far and it has got my list to 26 confirmed. ready to go, and about another 16 doing the iffy thing! this all word of mouth . and no money. just grass root networking . so the need for a service is out there.