bigredbirdfan

I fished Sunday from 8 a.m. to 1 p.m Sunday and didn't boat a fish. I guess my two trips a month don't qualify me in the "Mr. Taneycomo Contest". (i am only kidding). I threw everything in my tackle box but flies. No gray scuds or San Juans (but I wish I had so I could rule them out too). Didn't boat a single fish for the first time this year. Had one bite my rapala by the boat but didn't get the hook set. Never saw one fish come out of the water and must have been 20 boats where we were. Asked some how they were doing and the common response was, "not to good" and, "caught a few" which I didn't see. We fished from the Hatchery to Kanakuk. Rapalas, jigs of all colors and squat. Fished White River last weekend and it was slow but caught a 17 and a half brown and two limits of rainbows including a 16 and 3/4". We had a big fish contest among friends and the biggest was an 18" brown in the trophy area of North Fork. Finally, once we hit fall creek with no fish we switched to powerbait orange, white and pink, white with not a single bite. Trolled spoons at Kanakuk pulled the boat out and never boated a single fish. I know some will think it so I will go ahead and say it for you, "he must just suck at fishing" if he can't catch a trout on Taney. I concur with Jermey it is poor and I am not returning the next couple of weeks replacing this painful experience with bass fishing on Table Rock. Note: I also noticed no guide trucks and trailers parked at the ramp in Branson this trip. I am sure the reason is tremendously better fishing at Table Rock and not crappy fishing on Taneycomo.

The free market is already at work. Low MPG cars and trucks aren't selling that well. High MPG cars are. That tells me all I need to know about pressure to develope energy efficient vehicles. Plants are closing where low MPG cars were produced (losing jobs I might add). People will remeber what gas got to any not find any comfort in what it is now. Even though we all are happier. Except some nut job either riding his bicycle or driving his all electric coffin that hates me for wanting to protect my family in a half ton truck. Then again he isn't very happy in life anyway.

What is the generation pattern lately? Prior to this draw down? Thx BRBF

I am going to invest in a drag chain soon. As far as destructive. Weren't the floods destructive this spring? My 6 inches of chain will pale in comparison and the fishing on the White is awesome and most guides drag a chain there.

Has anyone had success with Braided Line and Rapalas in Upper Taneycomo or is the preference just green mono 6 or 8 lb test?

Maybe something will spread the good fishin around.

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Mom always uses your middle name too when you are in deep doo doo . You can count on those in a postion to report to the rest of the world (print or tv) to always get the interview wrong one way or another. Amazing. I agree with Cadilla, the article could have been better if it was just your interview and she kept out of the whole darn thing.

Congratulations to Phillip Lilley on his interview in the News-Leader's Outdoors section in today's paper. Hope it leads to some additional business.

What has the generation pattern been last couple of days? Is there anywhere mobile to obtain amount levels of flow in addition to just numbers of units (which seems to be worthless at least to me)?

Are drag chains prohibited by law on Taneycomo?

Arkansas has suspended releasing fish due to low DO levels. Any talk of the same at the Shepard of the Hills Facility?

Hate to do this to you jd. Where can I find a comparison on energy production? B/C I have heard hydro is expensive to produce.

I'll weigh in because I went Tracker. I have heard very happy owners and some disappointed ones as well. Most of the disappointment comes from dealer interaction. I however didn't worry because I had a small budget and was looking for a used boat. I ended up with a 1997 ProTeam 170 (17') with a 1987 Mercury 80 HP 2 Stroke. I am very happy with it. I like to move on the water and would not put anything lower than a 60 HP on any boat on Taneycomo or Tablerock. Rivers are a whole other creature. Don't know a thing about Xpress so can't help. I was shocked to see my model of Tracker now new for $13,000. You can find many good used boats for far less unless you are one of those people who just like new everything.

Spent the weekend on the White River in the J S Boat. Really solid and very nicely finished. Just my 2 cents. I know a guy who has one for sale two years old and barely used in Norfork if anyone is interested. $5,500 I believe is the price. Just PM and I will be happy to find out more info. Boat is red and white outside, grey inside. I will be most interested in how the boats so highly regarded here hold up in low water conditions when they get beat like a drum by big river rock like the boats that are made in Arkansas are suppose to.

Chief and Fishhand: What is the left's official position on these events? I noticed you guys are silent on this topic. Why?

Do tell what left wing outlet you picked up this crap from. Can you even watch TV? This ACORN mess is everywhere and one of Obamas only acomplishments is helping them obtain funding. Also you picked this as your first post on a primarialy outdoors forum. Come On.

I don't fish tablerock all that much, but if I did and someone asked me to move off of a point so he could fish it I would have a few choice words and actions to go along with them. I can't imagine with a big beautiful lake like that even asking such a B.S question. It also tells you the confidence they have in their abilities if the need that one fricken point. Thorns to this event and I would expect better behavior from people fishing out of what might be the finest equipment. As far as editing a post...maybe they should edit their behavior, sound more appropriate to me.

I love it when you prove points like....How screwed up it is now with that burned out hippie from San Fran and the idiot from Nevada in charge. Times are good under their leadership.

Topic From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The focus of a discussion or debate; see On-topic Seems a reminder is in order .

In the face of proof still full of denial. Kool Aide again please we have a left wing conspiracy. John McCain a fraud. OMG another trash can

Local 2 Investigates Dead Voters POSTED: 11:16 am CDT October 9, 2008 UPDATED: 9:08 am CDT October 10, 2008 HOUSTON -- Note: The following story is a verbatim transcript of an Investigators story that aired on Thursday, Oct. 8, 2008, on KPRC Local 2 at 10 p.m. Local 2 investigates dead voters. The push to register voters for this year's presidential election is breaking records. More than 1.9 million people are registered to vote in Harris County alone. But how many of the people listed on the voter roll are actually eligible to cast a ballot? Investigative reporter Amy Davis shows you how hundreds of voters could sway this year's election -- voters who are not even alive. "All-in-all, a great person, a great woman, just a wonderful person" is how Alexis Guidry described her mother to Local 2 Investigates. "As far back as I can remember, they've always voted in the election," Guidry said of her parents. The March 2008 Primary was no exception. Voting records show Alexis' mom, Gloria Guidry, cast her ballot in person near her South Houston home. "It was just very shocking, a little unsettling," said Alexis Guidry. It's unsettling because Gloria Guidry died of cancer 10 months before the March Primary. "She'd be very upset," Guidry said when asked what her mom would think. Trent Seibert, of Texas Watchdog, says you should be too. "This is really disquieting. It's concerning. It's worrisome," said Seibert. He heads up the non-partisan news group on the web. Texas Watchdog compared Harris County's voter registration roll with the Social Security death index and found more than 4,000 matches -- registered voters that, it appears, are already dead. Some of them, like Henderson Hill's late wife Linda, voted postmortem. "I would like to know who did it, myself," Hill told Davis. We don't know who used Linda Hill's or Gloria Guidry's IDs to vote, but we do know if their names had been purged from voter rolls after they died, using their IDs wouldn't have worked. "This is a red flag. No matter where you are, this should set off alarm bells," Seibert said. "Someone needs to take a look at this." Local 2 Investigates took the information to the Harris County Voter Registrar. "We just kind of work with the systems that we're allowed to," explained George Hammerlein, the director of Harris County Voter Registration. The county's system for culling deceased voters from the roll seems painfully primitive. We watched employees clip obituaries from the newspaper and sort through probate records for names matching those on the roll. But, Hammerlein says while fraud is a concern, for his office, disenfranchising voters is a bigger one. "We do all we can, but you know we'd rather err on the side of leaving people on the roll instead of taking them off inadvertently," he said. But could that cautious "better safe than sorry" standard sway an election some say will be a close one? Texas Watchdog found 4,462 registered voters who appear to be deceased. In 2000, George Bush won the presidential election by a mere 537 votes in Florida. "We've never had any evidence there's a concerted attempt at fraud," Hammerlein told Local 2. But there is evidence the state agency in charge of ensuring only eligible voters can vote is not. The State Auditor's Office conducted an audit of the voter registration system at the Secretary of State's Office last November. Auditors identified 49,049 registered voters state-wide who may have been ineligible to vote. Approximately 23,576 may have been deceased and another 23,114 were possible felons. And they found more than 2,359 duplicate records. The auditor did not find any instances in which potentially ineligible voters actually voted, but they wrote, "Although the Secretary of State's office has processes to identify many ineligible voters and remove them from the State's voter registration list, improvements can be made." Almost a year after this audit, we wanted to know if the Secretary of State has made any improvements. Have they added any safeguards to the process? No one from that office would talk to us on camera, but the Director of Elections told us, "We'd rather err in leaving someone on the roll than taking someone off." "If there's something wrong here, if there's something amiss, this is the worst election to have that happen, "Seibert warned. And Guidry agrees. "I don't think it's a matter that she would take lightly," she said of her mom. In what she calls an historic election, Guidry says her mother wouldn't want anyone speaking for her. "I think she would definitely do all that she could just to make sure things were on the up and up." We sent the information we showed you to the Director of Elections in Austin. She said her office refers any credible allegation of election fraud to the Attorney General for investigation. She said the cases we presented would be felony violations

Friday, October 10, 2008 Last Update: 03:00 PM EDT 1 VOTER, 72 REGISTRATIONS 'ACORN PAID ME IN CASH & CIGS' October 10, 2008 CLEVELAND - A man at the center of a voter-registration scandal told The Post yesterday he was given cash and cigarettes by aggressive ACORN activists in exchange for registering an astonishing 72 times, in apparent violation of Ohio laws. "Sometimes, they come up and bribe me with a cigarette, or they'll give me a dollar to sign up," said Freddie Johnson, 19, who filled out 72 separate voter-registration cards over an 18-month period at the behest of the left-leaning Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now. "The ACORN people are everywhere, looking to sign people up. I tell them I am already registered. The girl said, 'You are?' I say, 'Yup,' and then they say, 'Can you just sign up again?' " he said. Johnson used the same information on all of his registration cards, and officials say they usually catch and toss out duplicate registrations. But the practice sparks fear that some multiple registrants could provide different information and vote more than once by absentee ballot. ACORN is under investigation in Ohio and at least eight other states - including Missouri, where the FBI said it's planning to look into potential voter fraud - for over-the-top efforts to get as many names as possible on the voter rolls regardless of whether a person is registered or eligible. It's even under investigation in Bridgeport, Conn., for allegedly registering a 7-year-old girl to vote, according to the State Elections Enforcement Commission. Meanwhile, a federal judge yesterday ordered Ohio's Secretary of State to verify the identity of newly registered voters by matching them with other government documents. The order was in response to a Republican lawsuit unrelated to the ACORN probe in Cuyahoga County, in which at least three people, including Johnson, have been subpoenaed. Bribing citizens with gifts, property or anything of value is a fourth-degree felony in Ohio, punishable by up to 18 months in prison. And it's a fifth-degree felony - punishable by 12 months in jail - for a person to pay "compensation on a fee-per-registration" system when signing up someone to vote. Johnson, who works at a cellphone kiosk in downtown Cleveland, said he was a sitting duck for the signature hunters, but was always happy to help them out in exchange for a smoke or a little scratch. He'd collected 10 to 20 cigarettes and anywhere from $10 to $15, he said. The Cleveland voting probe, first reported by The Post yesterday, also focused on Lateala Goins, who said she put her name on multiple voter registrations. She guessed ACORN canvassers then put fake addresses on them. "You can tell them you're registered as many times as you want - they do not care," she said. ACORN spokesman Kris Harsh said the group does not tolerate its workers paying people to sign the voter-registration cards. ACORN's political wing has endorsed Barack Obama for president, but Ben LaBolt, a spokesman for the Obama campaign in Ohio, said ACORN has no role in its get-out-the-vote drive. During the primary season, however, the Obama camp paid another group, Citizen Service Inc., $832,598 for various political services, according to Federal Elections Commission filings. That group and ACORN share the same board of directors. In Wisconsin yesterday, John McCain blasted ACORN. "No one should be corrupting the most precious right we have, that is the right to vote," he said. It's a right Johnson will exercise. "Yeah, I've registered enough - I might as well vote."

Maybe like Old Man and the Sea he is out being pulled around Taneycomo by a giant Brown Trout