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Yes. That's why I believe it is threadfin based on sonar and structure view.
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Whatwater Temp Do You Consider To Be Cold Water ?
J-Doc replied to Norm M's topic in General Angling Discussion
Exactly. Might be 34 at surface and 40-45 on bottom. -
Yes. I'm a bit of a sonar geek. Just ask fishinwrench. Lol!!!
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Whatwater Temp Do You Consider To Be Cold Water ?
J-Doc replied to Norm M's topic in General Angling Discussion
That guy is wrong. I could post a pic of a 15lb plus striper that would also disagree "with passion" that fishing is fishing. Just slower presentation based on temp. Painful slow down to 32 degree surface temp. The striper was caught in 33 degree water with a trolling bait at 2.5mph in 15ft due to a massive shad kill. Two rods bent at the same time and two 15-20lb stripers attacked two separate baits. One got away. Also whites were biting spoons on the bottom in 30ft the same time. Air temp was in mid 20's. Water almost frozen. Most of the backs of creeks were frozen over solid and only water with current was not frozen over. So no...... Ask an ice fisherman in Wisconsin of 40 degree temps are too cold. He will laugh as he cracks open another beer in his ice shanty sitting in front of his propane heater. :-) -
Very probable. Only a guess.
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Probably so. At that scale it's speculative. If it's not a pair of catfish, striper, or my personal belief (large sturgeon that no one knows about) it's spoonbill. I zoomed in on the image and noticed the bills. I'm serious about the sturgeon thing. I know what I saw 2yrs ago. I thought a diver surfaced in the middle of Blackburn Creek in Beaver. And was in distress. Violent thrashing at least 6ft long. Then quiet. I motored over and saw two massive arches about 38ft down in 45ft of water. Way too long to be striper or even a spoonbill. I couldn't take a screenshot on an old grayscale unt or I would have. The arches filled my little 5" Eagle graph in 45ft of water. The Loch Ness of Beaver Lake. Lol!!! I read small river sturgeon were natural to the white prior to the lake. So that was my guess. And why I wonder if it's even possible. They generally stay deep all year.
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Pair of spoonbill. You can see the nose on the left side trailing off. You should post this in the interpretation sticky above. :-).
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Watch it all the way through. And wait for the dog's reaction at the end. Warning, you may pee your pants from laughter. Shotgun FAIL - 87lb snapping turtle Video #10:
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It's Beaver Lake. They could be gone tomorrow. With this front coming in, I'd bet they will be moving along somewhere. Could be within 200yds, could be within 1 mile. But one thing is for sure.....what works today may or maynot work tomorrow on this lake. Don't be scared to look around for them. And from what I heard..........Beaver Shores was a boat parking lot today. So it's gotten a lot of pressure. Especially from one particular Bass Tracker that fished it all day long today............(F&F)
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You have a "Care Package" waiting for you. I have map locations, my personal Insight Genesis scans, etc. I can show you the general areas of where fish have been all week. Bass, walleye, and stripers. Crappie.........well if I knew that I'd have some fresh ones in the fridge. I have some ideas but it didnt' work out for me yesterday. I need to check some other areas. Shoot me a PM for your email address and I'll give you a rundown.
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Yes sir. I forgot the exact weight but it was 5lbs and some change so almost 6lbs. Why I said "about 6lbs" because it was close.
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It was a fat one too. Probably 8yrs old.
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Well you're certainly coming to the correct area for that. I had to Google Map your route. I assumed you would come in from Rogers. I'm working on some waypoints and general areas. I'll email you some info. PM me your email address.
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Yeah, that's a sure enough mount right there. I thought about going that route. I think you will like it a lot. I'll make a deal with you. You show me how to fish the Ned and I'll teach you the HDS10. I just can't fish the Ned. No patience. I get bored way too quickly. Unless there are fish biting. If they are biting, I can fish it all day long.
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We were all out on the lake yesterday and wc launched as I was changing props out. I went out for crappie and F&F was still toying with his striper fever condition and live bait. Sorry wc that I didn't hang around and chat more........I was on a mission with the prop tests. So as we were all loading up, wc comes in and said he caught a walleye but he couldn't find a tape. So I grabbed my ruler thinking it was long enough. It wasn't. Grabbed a tape measure and F&F grabbed a scale. A 25" walleye on the nose and about 6lbs. I tip my hat sir. Very nice fish! (the location of said fish was not mentioned to preserve the location and prevent a boat convention parking on the area slamming them with everything from dynamite to crawler harnesss)
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Well......I failed. I didn't get out until late and between testing two props, I never really got much actual fishing time in. I went into a large cove where i know some fish attractors are and all I managed to pull out were bass. One was a really nice one. All on a Shinee Hinnee jig. I found a nice brush pile with fish on it and tried to get them to bite the Shinnee Hinnee and later the Electric Chicken but no takers. The wind picked up and I was having to keep the boat in position with the trolling motor. That may have spooked them. Tried another spot where I had seen a good group of crappie the day before but they had moved. Found some stripers and played with them with a spoon. Got a few solid hits but missed the hooksets somehow. I felt one munch down on the jig and by the time I jerked up, he had already spit it out. I'm really getting a bad case of crappie fever. That means I'll hang every rod I have over the side of the boat!
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There is absolutely no doubt there are fish up there. My point was they are harder to catch because they are so much deeper and the water clarity can be an additional challenge. I agree with F&F. PC is a much nicer ramp and it's actually closer. You would drive right past it on the way to the 12 bridge. And with low water, there are lots of boulders and chunk rock around that can damage a prop if you don't know it's there just under the surface. I won't launch there in low water. PC has two docks you can tie off to. I'm going to send you some images of places to look. I was just out yesterday and the day before. Fish can move around overnight but for the most part, the lake is much smaller than it looks due to underwater features. If you don't find fish......you forgot to turn on your graph. LOL
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Here is what I see. Based on what I've learned from watching 2 different Dr. Sonar DVD's and lots of online research on how to read sonar images. Understanding the basics is essential to learning how to read these things. Understanding what a cone angle is and how it works makes the light bulb come on. At least it did for me. And mislead by Scott & J-Doc???? REALLY?? lol It's not my fault you're on the wrong end of the lake. I went up there on a striper report about a month or so ago. I won't be back. Not interested. Everything goes deeper because the water is clearer. Not so say all fish are deep. That's not true. There are a lot of bass up shallow and stay that way most of the year. In the main channels however, those fish that live and stay there are deeper due to less light penetration at deeper depths. Which is also where the water is warmer in the winter.
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Excellent report. Going tomorrow. I hope to snag some myself. Got some new B&M poles that need a good breaking in with fish attached to the other end.
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Now that is a nice fella there. :-)
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At that depth, it's hard to say "there's a fish" because it's just a guess. Strictly. No definative "I know that's a fish" because there may very well be fish down there but with that much signal being sent back and at that depth range, its impossible to say yes or no....this is a fish, this is the limb next to the fish where he's suspended. My guess..... All trees. Some appear as cedar trees. There are some arches that appear as fish by my experience shows that could be a tree canopy. I've seen this before on sonar and clearly see tree with limbs on downscan and on side scan. You should just bring your trailer down towards Prairie Creek. Lots of pods of fish around and not down to 60 ft. Within your range of trolling depth and actively feeding.
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Try Daniel at Mobile Marine in Lowell. He might take it on.
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^^^ Lol!!! Your way with words cracks me up. :-)
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Come ride with me. I've added about 650miles on mine since July. As for wind, I can keep my trolling motor on about 30% into 20-25mph head winds and hold on a spot. At 45% I'm starting to move forward. At 100% move it or lose it time. Its an 80lb Fortrex (24v). Wind doesn't bother me anymore with a low profile boat that sits flat in the water. Ride as good as a glass boat? No. But it's actually softer in impact because the aluminium will flex slightly where fiberglass is more rigid and zero flex. I've been in my RT188 since July and I've jumped as many wakes as a motorcross biker. I can run full throttle with a hot foot and not beat my kidneys to death even during mid day when the wakers are trying to make the lake look like the North Shore beach at Maui to ride killer waves. And I stay dry too. I was beyond surprised. And a Tracker 190 can cut a wake well too with its v-shaped bow. Sorry, off topic. Just saying that tin rigs have come a long long way and seem to be growing in advancements and popularity as well.